on again, off again (the wagon, that is..)

[Eurotrash]

I'm going to aplogize in advance for the length of my post. If you have the patience to read this and respond, bless your heart.

So last year my cousin started vaping. He introduced me to it and it really impressed me. I had no real intention of quitting, but bought the same one he had (Joye 510 and I preferred a 70vg/30pg mix most days) on a whim and started getting really heavy into making my own blends and buying an extra battery. I vaped constantly for around 4 months and thought it was the coolest thing since I found out about fireworks. It was awesome being able to smoke in bars in the DC area and not be told to .... or put out my cig.

During this time, I got a new IT job and somehow along the way, started smoking again. I was smoking ultra lights with an additional filter attached. I ended up getting laid off due to budget reasons and went back to smoking my usual half-pack a day. After around 7 months of stressful, heartbreaking unemployment, I have just been offered a new position with a different company. Now that I have some extra money rolling in, I want to get back to smoking ecigs again. BUT I don't like continually filling my cig, don't like the mess, just want something simpler and easier to take around.

I'm an avid photographer and find myself out on client sites in the city and things. I can't be hassled with the "oh no, I have to find an outlet to charge my damn cig up" deal. I also can't be worrying about spilling e-liquid all over my camera gear. Last I checked, there were several "box" designs which seemed to syphon up liquid in little bottles up to the vaporizer and that seemed like something I was interested at the time..

My real questions are these:
1. Is it really harmful to inhale water vapor into your lungs? (I know this has been asked to death and there isn't really a clear consensus on the outcomes of such a thing. I certainly felt healthier when vaping..I'm just still a bit reserved on that.)
2. What are the better vapes out there? I want something I can invest in and grow with. I don't want to get something that I wish had a feature that I MAY want in the future. VV perhaps? Ability to use different atomizers?
3. Budget of around 150, less is always better. But again, investment is the key word here.

Anyway, thanks for hearing my sob story. I hope that my life can once again be on the fast track to being a bit better since my terrible experience in the current economy.

 

[Xaiver]

What you're talking about is called a Bottom Feeder. I don't know much about them, but I'm sure someone will come along to chime in.

1. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying: I'd rather answer this question than deal with trying to explain it to someone that thinks it's worse than smoking. How could it possibly be worse than smoking? Just off the top of my head, I know that cigarettes have Arsenic and Cyanide in them, both of which can kill you. Is flavoring, Nicotine and PG/VG better than that? I'd say so.

2. Look into an 18650 mod, perferrably a tube mod. If you want to get something now, and be able to expand it later, something like a Silver Bullet will do that for you. Altsmoke carries a sleeve, and nHaler makes a device called a Kick that will allow you to turn your SB into a Variable Wattage device. It's a drop-in unit, thus the sleeve.
2b. As far as the flavor goes and all of that, you're kinda where everyone else is. There are quite a few options out there for atomizer/cartomizers/rebuildables, and it's all a matter of deciding what it is that you like. I'm just settling into a setup that I think is going to last me for a long time. It's a Kicked Silver Bullet with a GG Penelope rebuildable tank-atomizer ontop.
3. That's the kicker, isn't it? I was a pack-a-day+ smoker, cigarettes cost me something around 200/month, I have to buy lots of things for vaping to spend that much.

Best of luck!

 

[Eurotrash]

How could it possibly be worse than smoking? Just off the top of my head, I know that cigarettes have Arsenic and Cyanide in them, both of which can kill you. Is flavoring, Nicotine and PG/VG better than that? I'd say so.

Yes, quite the obvious point. BETTER, no question. But really safe? The debate rages on? I know PG/VG are used in god knows how many crazy things in our lives, I didn't know if there had been developments past when I dropped off the face of the e-cig world or not. Nevermind, if this question is going to spark a debate and rage off topic.

I should add that I did purchase the (silver tube battery mod whose name escapes me at present) and it was rad, but people litereally thought it was a bomb when I walked into my secure facility on more than one occassion. This makes me want something "pretty" as well as effective

 

[Xaiver]

Fair enough. I don't really feel that anything is 'safe'. I'm realizing that more an more as my son grows. He's 6 1/2 months old right now and only likes to play with things that have some danger potential. He won't climb up on the couch or the bed, but the wooden coffee table is fantastic. -facepalm-

Anyhow, I have yet to walk into any secure facilities, but I've read a lot of people on here that fly and things, that most of the security guards seem to be familiar with them. Does this qualify as pretty?

 

[Eurotrash]

I understand. I just didn't want to incite another "is it safe!?" war lol.

I suppose that in D.C. it's more of a rigorous process that the TSA screeners like to perform. They even check your shoes and socks. It's rather invasive.
Um...YES! It's absolutely gorgeous. I know of this one I think..
I believe I was considering buying the one on the right but feared it would be too large. Another criteria I suppose would be "pocketability" since if I'm at work/shooting pictures/walking around town or whatever, it wouldn't get in my way. One that couldn't be accidentally activated easily would be nice as well. See how I keep thinking of supplementary issues? Geez..sorry about that

Do you have any pictures with other items to get a relative size comparison?

 

[Xaiver]

eGo-T 650mAh normal battery with a 44mm Carto. Clicky Pen. Kicked Silver Bullet, GG Penelope. Altsmoke's Alpha, 44mm carto. Diet Coke.

It's worth noting that the Alpha is a mechanical mod, and it works by pressing the head down. I use it for at work, but I don't like the button because I can't put anything bigger around than a carto on it. I can't get my finger on it to fire it.

 

[Eurotrash]

Thanks! You're not wearing a shirt LOL!

I remember there being a page that listed just about every PV out there, does that still exist? I just want to buy the right one, I hope you understand.. I know people have multiples which, I am sure I will do eventually. but I want to start off with a bang!

I also seem to remember a guy that made these bottom feeders that were adorned with a wooden case, that thing really excited me. Do you know what that's called?

 

[Xaiver]

I saw that after I posted the picture. Stupid shiny things. I have pants on though!

There is...it's not really up-to-date though. I'd recommend looking in the Registered Suppliers forum and sort of perusing through the vendors pages. I really like AltSmoke's devices, they're solid, reliable and they'll fix just about anything that goes wrong. I've heard of people getting a SB in trade on the classies, and they fixed it for free. And one that someone blew up from stacked batteries...and they fixed it...not sure how much that one cost though.

As far as the battery part of the PV goes, I definitely think that the extra cost of a nice PV is well worth it. I've got a couple cheap-o's, and they either perform poorly, or just feel cheap.

Another place you could look is in the classifieds. You have to get verified though, but you would be able to see what people are selling, even if you didn't plan on buying second hand.

 

[Xaiver]

Oh, if you ask anyone about Bottom Feeders, the first thing they'll mention is called a Reo. They do make a Woodie-type.

reosmods.com

And there's another wood one called a Phidias.

 

[iamtumus]

i have a reo and it's fantastic for on the go vaping
they make woodboxes reosmods.com
bogger boxes are wooden bottom feeders that many of my friends have and they are nice but i'm always worried about the possible fragility of the wood.

the vvpv is another bottom feeder, which incorporates VV.
it is made by notcigs and looks to be a nice pv.
there are a lot of great options out there..

 

[Scott Harrison]

safe? maybe
best mod to grow with? buy a used provari or just spend the 250 for the new one and be done with it.

 

[Eurotrash]

I mailed reo about their plans for a mini VV woodvill and also to perhaps place an order and got this:

"We currently don't have any wood mods in stock and it may be some time until they become available. We will be making more but that will be weeks away. We are currently building VV Grands. But if you check the stock updates on our website we will post in advance when the sale for wood mods begins. This will include the date and time."

Let's break it down.
Didn't answer my main question. Are there any plans for a VV Mini? Still don't know, wasn't addressed.
Don't have any in stock. At all. Guess I won't be buying a vape from you guys today..:/
How long will I have to wait for you to get stock in? Don't know. They'll apparently keep me posted, but only if I reach out to the AGAIN to check and see what the deal is. There's no auto mailing list or anything 21st century about it. So, I'll never really know, because I doubt I'll be back on the site just as info is posted.

It's stuff like this that just prevents me from having nice things :/ Oh well, I'll look into other options I suppose.

 

[Eurotrash]

I like the idea of a small bottom feeder box mod. Something that fits in the pocket easily. It seems like that would last as long as I would need it to. (all day)
Plus, no hassle, no mess of dripping, no carrying around bottles of juice, etc.. I would essentially take care of all the maintenance at home and simply bring it along for my day.

I just can't justify $250 for a mod though. Might be the nicest .... ever, but at the end of the day, you can get a VV device for less. And who do I have to show off to? Yep. Just myself..

 

[Xaiver]

I have a small portable hard drive case that I carry with me. It pretty much stays in the car, but it's got a couple extra batteries, extra cartos, little bottle of juice, and an eGo batter incase of catastrophy. Best to be prepared.

There are tanks and things that will eliminate the need to carry around little bottles though.