One Regulation I Actually Wouldn't Mind

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Nate760

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I don't really use cigalikes all that often anymore, but I wouldn't object to their makers being prevented from making wildly, laughably inaccurate claims about the "cigarette equivalent" of their cartos and disposables.

When I was first making the switch, these labeling practices caused me a lot of unnecessary confusion. I bought my first starter kit totally on impulse, not having done any research beforehand, so I had nothing to go on but what it said on the package. Blu said one of their cartos was equal to a pack of cigarettes, and N-Joy said the same thing about their disposables. So, not knowing any better, and based on my previous cigarette intake, I assumed this meant that one of either would last me a day and a half to two days, with a frequency of use equivalent to how much I used to smoke.

So imagine my surprise when neither one, even when I was using both, lasted a full day. There I am thinking "Jeez, I don't feel like I'm overdosed on nicotine, but according to what it says on the packages, I've had the equivalent of two packs of cigarettes today, so my nicotine level should be four times what it normally is." I had no way of knowing (because I hadn't yet taken the time to find out) that the "cigarette equivalent" they put on the package refers only to the amount of nicotine in the carto, a good deal of which never gets vaporized, or that you have to vape far more often than you smoked in order to maintain the same nic level in your bloodstream. Or, for that matter, that if you vape the same way you smoked, your lungs absorb less of the nicotine to begin with. So there I am, thinking I'm at four times my normal nicotine level, when I was probably at something like 20% of normal when all the variables are taken into consideration.

Eventually, I just said "Screw it, I don't want to smoke anymore, so I'm going to vape as much and as often as I need in order to feel satisfied." Obviously, I wound up spending way more money than I needed to in the first couple weeks, but I got off cigarettes, and that's all that matters. At the same time, however, I hate to think about the possibility that other people in my position, being similarly misled and confused by "cigarette equivalent" product labeling that's completely fictional in terms of real-world usage, might just give up on the whole thing and go back to smoking. Hence, this is one area where I believe a requirement for more accurate (or at least less inaccurate) product labeling on e-cigs might be a beneficial thing overall.
 
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They wont change it.

If they can keep one carto equals 2+ packs they can get more taxes on it when the taxes come.

It's rather deliciously ironic that we live in a country where the makers of a product are prohibited by law from making accurate and scientifically well-attested marketing claims, but perfectly free to make claims that have no basis in reality whatsoever.
 

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It's rather deliciously ironic that we live in a country where the makers of a product are prohibited by law from making accurate and scientifically well-attested marketing claims, but perfectly free to make claims that have no basis in reality whatsoever.

Oh I agree. In the end follow the money is a sad but true rule.
 

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the trouble with the claims is it represents a median percentage.
the way people smoke and how much they inhale varies so widely
that the figures probably represent 2-3 % of the people using the
product.light smokers and heavy smokers being at either end of
the median.
i don't think they were lying or trying to be deceitful,it just
how these things wash out.
regards
mike
 

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the trouble with the claims is it represents a median percentage.
the way people smoke and how much they inhale varies so widely
that the figures probably represent 2-3 % of the people using the
product.light smokers and heavy smokers being at either end of
the median.
i don't think they were lying or trying to be deceitful,it just
how these things wash out.
regards
mike

But see, that's the whole thing. I wasn't a heavy smoker, so in theory I should've been one of the people for whom the "cigarette equivalent" was somewhere close to reality.
 

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I totally agree about what they claim. When I first started I did the same thinking I'd bought enough cartridges to last a month. LOL. They lasted a few days, but cost enough! I don't use anything like that now. I would never go back to those sort of devices.

The only bad thing about any of these regulations going forward is that once ecigs/vaping is declared a tobacco product it gives the FDA precedence. The head of the FDA has done stated with his own lips in public that this is foundational and once these regulations go through then they will do away with flavored eliquids and blah blah. It's a domino effect.

I don't want any regulations. But we all realize there will be regulations. We need to fight for ecigs/vaping to not be a tobacco product and not be listed or deemed the same as smoking. All these application fees are written for Big tobacco who can clearly and easily pay those sort of fees. These vaping companies can't compete like that.
 

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the trouble with the claims is it represents a median percentage.
the way people smoke and how much they inhale varies so widely
that the figures probably represent 2-3 % of the people using the
product.light smokers and heavy smokers being at either end of
the median.
i don't think they were lying or trying to be deceitful,it just
how these things wash out.
regards
mike

They intentionally lie so they can back pedal and say the exact same things you just did. :)

But hey... I was 2-3 packs per day and I once got a full day out of a tiny Blu cartridge 8-o. Of course the others crapped out after an hour or so. :D
 
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