Ordered my first "Pod"/OVNS W01: How strong mg/ml should I make my juice? (DiYer)

[Taberu]

I ordered a pair of the new OVNS W01 (similar to the Juul or other pods; but refillable).

It is only 1.8ohm, so I know it'll be a bit weak and might require a stronger liquid for satisfaction and hit. I mainly bought it for the small and compact form factor and they're for my parents. They too vape 3mg like me, from a real mod though. But, they don't like bulky mods.

Me: I am used to and very content with using only 3mg/ml juice with a 0.5ohm coil. I use a mech mod (KF V5 + SMPL... clones). I have been using this same strength of juice and the same strength 0.5ohm coil/mod setup since 2016 with no complaints (perfectly happy with it).

Just wondering what strength juice I should make that'll satisfy me with the much weaker 1.8ohm pod system. I've never had a "pod" system before nor ever used a 1.8ohm coil.

I know Juul has 3% and 5% (30mg/ml and 50mg/ml). Wow, that sounds a bit too strong for me maybe (even with a weaker 1.8ohm coil); but I know it's meant for smokers wanting to quit. I was thinking maybe trying to make small 10ml batches of 12mg and 18mg, maybe even 24mg.

What do you guys and gals think?

Any help appreciated.

 

[bombastinator]

The juul is basically a regular ol mtl atty. just a physically small one. The kayfun v5 is generally considered a MTL atty but can be pushed into restricted DL .5ohm could be either MTL or DL though.
if you vape 3mg/ml in a DL device you probably want something like 6-10mg/ml. If you vape 3mg/ml in a MTL device you probably want 3mg/ml.
YMMV though. What strength you prefer is going to be hard to predict.

 

[IDJoel]

@Taberu, I have the JC01 by OVNS that uses the same cartridges. I bought it as a stealth device for when my regular full sized mod was a bit too conspicuous. Routinely, in my normal mod, I vape 18mg/mL(freebase) in a single coil MTL tootle puffer setup.

I have the 0.7ohm pods, instead of the 1.8ohm. So, I am not sure how my experience is likely to compare to yours.

At any rate; I am currently using 50mg/mL (nic salt) in the JC01, and I find it rather weak. I have to take 3-4 back-to-back puffs, in order to get a satisfying hit. This could be because the e-liquid is a 30PG/70VG ratio and may be too thick to adequately flow (though I have never noticed even a suggestion of a burnt hit). And, flavor is quite weak. This could also be due to an extremely tight/limited airflow.

When I get around to trying to DIY for this; I intend to mix 60PG/40VG, and increase my recipe flavor profile by 20% (of norm), and doubling my usual 18mg/mL freebase nic. I half expect to need to go even higher.

The pods do fill easily, and they seem to last a long time (I am still on my original, but I have refilled it at least 6 times).

 

[Taberu]

I see the JC01 pods are Ceramic, and the new W01 pods are standard cotton with wire coil. I wonder if they are a bit different.

This reviewer seems to think the W01 pods hit differently:

 

[Taberu]

Just whipped up some 10ml testers - 6, 12, 18 and 24 mg/ml.
Should be well-steeped once I receive them W01 kits (FT doesn't ship them for about another 3 weeks though).

 

[IDJoel]

I see the JC01 pods are Ceramic, and the new W01 pods are standard cotton with wire coil. I wonder if they are a bit different.

Informative video; thanks for sharing. I really wasn't wanting the ceramic pods but it was all my B&M had in stock at the time. The video is encouraging.

Just whipped up some 10ml testers - 6, 12, 18 and 24 mg/ml.
Should be well-steeped once I receive them W01 kits (FT doesn't ship them for about another 3 weeks though).

I hope you will come back to this thread and share your findings. I am eager to hear what works for you.

 

[classwife]

Moved to DIY E-Liquid from General E-Liquid Discussion

 

[Taberu]

I just saw that Eleaf has a new pod system too, the Elven.

I might cancel my OVNS W01 order and get these instead.

Same 100mm length and similar light weight, but slightly thicker.
However, the Elven has much more juice capacity, a slightly stronger coil, bigger battery, Pod packs come in 4 (instead of 3 pack OVNS W01) and Eleaf is a much older, experienced and reputable company that knows what they're doing. And random brick&mortar stores are much more likely to carry replacement pods vs Ovns pods... since everyone carries Eleaf products.

 

[Taberu]

Saw Smok has an even nicer new pod system, the Mico.

Ended up also cancelling my Elven order for the Mico.
I guess I cancelled twice already, lol - first the OVNS W01, then the Elven.

Biggest thing that attracts me to the Mico is the stronger 0.8ohm coil. With that, I can still use the same 3mg liquid and don't need to mess with crazy stronger liquids.
Also, the bigger 700mah battery doesn't hurt.

 

[charlie1465]

@Taberu Or even try the Pal aio by artery....

Pod Kits : Artery PAL AIO II Kit 1000mAh (Tony B Project) UK

These have interchangeable coils 0.6 ohm and 1.2 ohm. And just to give you an idea I vape sub ohm 0.15 at 18mg/ml and I'm currently vaping salt nic in my pod at 36mg/ml. Thought you might be able to judge what you need from there