Organic Eliquids, Injectors, and carts

[Magkisa83]

I like additive free tobacco and have been interested in finding something similar for my vaping experience. I've seen several natural and even organic eliquid blends, but none in prefilled cartomizers. I always ignored the former, since I figured that my total blindness would make trying to fill my own cartomizers impractical, impossible, and if they contained nicotine, dangerous as well. Recently, I found these two devices. One washes the cartomizers, and the other is supposed to fill them easily, a bit like an injector and tubes for tobacco. Has anyone tried either of these, and if so, can they be used without sight?

CartoJet - CartoBlast Units

What about these natural and organic juices? Can anyone recommend a brand, preferably not made in China? I smoke and vape for the taste and the pleasure of doing so. I like the 4mg strength from V4L, as I only use the nicotine for throat hit, but most other places have 6mg, or worse, 8, as their low strength! Do any of these have 4 or 6mg or can I get away with a 0mg and still have good throat hit? I don't care about the visuals of vaping, since I can't see them.

I've read that these organic juices shouldn't be used in cartomizers because they clog them up. I don't want to get ELiquid in my mouth. I only smoke two or three cigarettes a day, and don't vape that much either. So I'm hoping that, even if this is true, they will still last me awhile. if I can tell when a cart is clogged, I could just throw it away. I've heard they can be reused,but how many times is reasonable? What if I discover one has burned only after I've refilled it?

I have two Vapor King batteries, the first one is from late 2009 or early 2010, and the second is from the next generation, with the easier draw. Both are automatics. I've wanted to try some of the newer batteries, particularly the ones with the soft touch technology, but have heard things about the Titan catching on fire, and even exploding! Still, I know that other companies make the KR808, so I may try another one or a different model. Either way, I definitely don't want to deal with atomizers. If I can use carts with these ELiquids, which type/brand should I buy? I've seen things about coils and different voltage, but don't know much about that, nor about tanks, mods, etc. Thanks.

 

[Magkisa83]

I went back to the Nicapure site, and discovered that they actually sell a mini ECigarette, called the MX-5, but it appears to be the type which uses a separate heating element. They also make organic ELiquids, which are 50-50 pg and vg.

Virgin Vapor | Electronic Cigarette Organic e-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes

is the other site that I was considering for liquids. They're more expensive but also offer more flavours. They sell 50-50 but also 100% vg. I've never tried those, but have heard that they taste a bit soapy. Is this true, or does it depend on the brand? V4l has some blank 808 -threaded carts, but they cost the same as their flavoured ones, and I'm not sure how many times I can reuse them. While not my primary goal, I would like to spend less money on this venture, considering that I'll be filling these myself and am not a heavy vaper. I also found the manufacturer of the CartoJet, and they're selling the combo with free shipping.

 www.micronixproducts.com       Cartomizer Cleaners and Fillers E liquid         - CARTOMIZER CLEANER AND FILLERS/ E LIQUID / E VAPE

 

[Baditude]

I love Dripeez - Natural & Organic E-liquids - Home page Dripeez

Besides the above Virgin Vapors, I also recommend Vaperite - Vaperite | Organic and Natural Flavored Electronic Cigarette E Juice

 

[aubergine]

There's a very good article about 'organic' juice on Ahlusion's excellent website - I suggest you check it out, very clarifying.

 

[Magkisa83]

Thanks to all of you for the help so far. I really like Vaperite! They have both organic and all natural blends, in a large variety and at decent prices, especially considering the large bottle sizes of 18ml and 60ml. The organic RY4 has instructions to choose the 70-30 pg/vg combination for cartomizers. But the others don't say that, and the tobaccos only come in 50-50. Can I still use them, and can I try 100% vg? My only real complaint is that their 3ml samplers only come in 18mg nicotine, which is way too high for me. Otherwise, I would love to try it! The low is 6mg, which is far better than 8mg or even 12mg that some places call low for their prefilled carts. If I fill these alone, and do get some of the juice on my hands, will it harm me or can I just wash it off? I'm trying to decide if I should get 0mg just to experiment, unless I have my fully sighted boyfriend help me the first few times. If I do, is there a way for him to know when he's filled the cartomizer? The CartoJet says that you only need to pull the plunger one or two times, but I don't want to overfill the cart and ruin it.

I saw two cartomizers for the 808D, the Kanger 808D Horizontal and the L Rider 808 Horizontal Single Coil. Which is better, especially considering that I'll be using the CartoJet to fill them? Also, do these hold 1ml of juice? If so, and if I choose the 18ml bottles, will I have to buy several packs of them or can I refill them? They also have them for the 510. I thought those require atomizers. I'm smiling at the Greek language option. Very few sites have that! Speaking of sites, Virgin Vapor has slightly more expensive juices, but they're smaller, which is good for me, as I'm just starting out. They also have a 5mg level. But they don't have carts for my Vapor King. So I'll either need to go to three places for this order, or just stick with the larger bottles and carts from Vaperite and get the CartoJet from Nicapure.

Thanks for mentioning the article. I read it and also this one.

Natural vs Artificial Flavorings

I'm no vegan or vegitarian, and don't follow dieting nonsense, but I do prefer free range and organic food, and also prefer naturopathic medicine. The same holds true with my tobacco and juices, though I'm willing to accept natural but nonorganic there. Still, it's good to be aware of possible scams.

 

[Magkisa83]

I typed organic eliquid sample into Google and came up with many sites. Two stood out for their 5ml bottles (a reasonable sample size), excellent prices (including shipping) and customisability. The first one actually allows you to create your own flavours! The second has carts.

Orb Vapor All Natural & Organic E-Liquid

ECBlend E-Liquids - Something Better

I think I'll order the eliquids and carts from that second site now. When I want to try the first site, or even another, I can still get the carts from the second, since they're so cheap. I only have three questions left.
1. Should I get the single coil or the dual coil? Both are from SmokTech.
2. What resistance should I choose if I want to avoid burning and/or drying the carts? If I get 0mgs, until I feel safe filling them, I want to at least have some kind of throat hit and I know this is done by resistance and also the vg/pg levels in the ELiquid. Would it help if I chose the extra flavour option?
3. This one's for the future. Should I stick with my current V4L batteries, get a Dial a Volt, or try another brand. I've heard of Volt and according to this thread, they're higher quality than V4L.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/250639-v4l-vs-volt.html

 

[Magkisa83]

I have been at this for a few days now. It seems that other than Karma Classics, which I've heard aren't that great, there are absolutely no natural or organic pre-filled cartomizers on the market! I can't even find one which just says "no artificial colours" or made in Europe, the USA, etc. I don't trust things from China. I really don't understand this, as there are many brands selling eliquids like that. This would make my life much easier.

At any rate, I may do as planned, and get the CartoJet from Nicapure and the 0mg juice and cartomizers from ecblend, just to try them. Then, I'll either try Virgin Vapor (which sounds excellent, though their sizes are huge), or this one, which seems really promising!

DKS eLiquids for All Electronic Cigarette Types

Alternatively, I'm thinking of trying a plastic cigarette. Prefilled ones are very difficult to find, and usually only contain mint, which I love, but which I've heard isn't great to inhale all the time. If I get an empty one, I can add my own essential oils or extracts to it. I found one, called the Paipo, which seems perfect, only I can't find a place which sells it! Another, called Cigamint, looks great, but is very expensive. There's this, on Ebay, but I'm not sure if they can be filled with oil.

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Again, I must stress that I'm not trying to quit smoking. I just want a nice alternative for when it's cold out, or for when I'm not in the mood for a normal cigarette. I like variety. I do enjoy my shisha for my arghile, so am not against fruit flavours, though I like the tobacco ones as well.

 

[Magkisa83]

I just found something very interesting!

FEMLOGIC ESSENTIAL PEPPERMINT PIPES, quit smoking, weight loss aids tools, pocket vapor vaporizer.

Nothing to light or plug in. Just screw on the cartridge and inhale! It comes with peppermint, but I can get some empty cartridges, and experiment with other oils, making sure, of course, that they're safe to inhale. If not, I can use all natural food flavours. My guess is that this will be stronger than the Smoker's Option, which is still a good product and not, as I first thought, made in China! Unfortunately, they don't sell the peppermint ones here.

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Ciganot is also good, though a bit strange to get used to. This is the one with the barbicue taste, if I remember correctly.

http://www.ciganot.com

But none of these, except possibly the pipe, offer as much of a variety as the ecigarette, which is why that was my first option. But I just thought of something even better! I shop at

iHerb.com - Vitamins, Supplements & Natural Health Products

all the time, for just about everything. They have many all natural food flavourings! I have empty droppers that I bought for my soap making. I could just cut off the cap and nipple part, add a drop or two to the stem and opa! I have my own flavoured plastic cigarette! I wonder if these would work with carts and my Vapor King? They contain no water, but they do have all natural ingredients and some have vg. Note that I would never experiment with nicotine, as I know this is dangerous.

 

[Magkisa83]

I'm still searching around, and am becoming quite frustrated. I actually found a video with instructions on how to fill cartomizers if you're blind. It seems fairly straight forward, though I haven't tried it yet.

Luer Lock Cartomizer Fill Method (for the Blind or Visually Impaired) - YouTube

I commented on it, and the man who posted it wresponded quickly and was very helpful. He said that there are several filling devices on the market, but that the Cartojet wasn't among the good ones. He also warned me that their nonmedical version was made from cheap parts. This system was designed for a 510 cartomizer, which takes 5ml of eliquid. So I would either need to get an adapter for my 808D-1, get a 510 battery, or figure out how to measure the liquid. The first two options are fine, but the third puts me back at square one. Oh, and I found another site with natural juices, and this one has wonderful reviews.

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But as usual, they don't have pre-filled cartomizers. I found one site which does, but they only have high nicotine strengths available right now, like 12mg and 24mg. I'm also a bit confused. I know these are made in the U.S. but do they use natural ingredients or is it only their vg base that's natural?

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My last option seems to be V2, which isn't natural, but which, at least, is made in America, with careful attention to quality control.

Electronic Cigarettes | E Cigarette | V2 Cigs

I've heard that they don't have the best customer service. Is this true?

As for non electronic options, I'm waiting for an answer from Femlogic on their pipes. I can't seem to find any information on how their cartridges are filled, what the hanger is for, or whether or not I can use other essential oils and/or natural food flavorings with their products. I recently discovered portable vaporizers, so am researching those. If you use these, and have the time, please read the below link, as I'm looking for suggestions and have a few questions.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/395452-portable-vaporizer-questions.html