Organic juice

[hrlw817]

Hi all. I was at my local B & M today and I was told they have organic juice, which I was offered for the first time today. I am just curious, the guy mentioned that the main difference is there is no carcinogens in organic juice. I didn't even know there was carcinogens in regular juice. I can't remember if he said VG or PG was the carcinogen. My question is: is organic juice better? He did say it is and there is more flavor with organic. I bought a bottle of it but have yet to try it.

 

[Baditude]

As far as I know there are no carcinogens in either Pg, Vg, or any of the flavorings. I think the guy was blowing smoke up your azz.

I have to admit for the last several months most of the juice I purchase are from e-liquid vendors that sell all-natural, all-organic flavorings. They seem to have a much higher flavor component, and no artificial-chemical taste like many flavors from other vendors sell.

Check out Dripeez, Vaperite, and Virgin Vapors for vendors that sell all-natural, all-organic e-liquids.

 

[hrlw817]

Yeah, I was kind of thinking about that guy was doing just that. I have been vaping for two years now and have never heard of any carcinogens in e-juice.

 

[440BB]

I don't know if I'd believe their juice is really organic after making that claim. Just plain BS about carcinogens.

 

[RedhatPat]

Your B&M guy was speaking out of school or seriously misinformed about carcinogens but as far as "better" is concerned -- it's in the eye of the beholder. Too many variables at play and vaping has only been around for like 7 years or something so nobody really knows if organic juice is "better." For now, just go with your gut and stick to what tastes good, organic or not. 'Science should triumph over opinion,' says past president of the American Lung Association. Let's hope he's on our side, folks.

RHP

 

[Baditude]

'Science should triumph over opinion,' says past president of the American Lung Association. Let's hope he's on our side, folks.

I guess you didn't know that the American Lung Association is one of the opponents of e-cigarettes use.

 

[hrlw817]

I don't know if I'd believe their juice is really organic after making that claim. Just plain BS about carcinogens.

I kind of hope it's organic..he charged me $30 for a 30ml bottle

 

[RedhatPat]

I guess you didn't know that the American Lung Association is one of the opponents of e-cigarettes use.

I guess you didn't know that Connor, president and CEO of the lung association from 2008 to 2012, joined the Electronic Cigarette Industry Group (ECIG) on Thursday as a paid consultant. He will serve as a conduit between public health experts, regulators and the booming industry, which will have an estimated $1.7 billion in U.S. sales this year. Whether this proves to be more of a hindrance than a help, only time will tell -- stay tuned folks 2014 will be an interesting year and not just because Fallon is replacing Leno on the Tonight Show

ETA: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-association-electronic-cigarettes-regulation

RHP

 

[RedhatPat]

I kind of hope it's organic..he charged me $30 for a 30ml bottle

Good one, brother B&Ms are hit or miss. Some places you'll get someone like a Baditude/tnt56 behind the counter, but most places all you'll get is a dude one-notch up from your average gas station clerk trying to pimp their in-house juice and cheap disposible mods. I even heard some places won't even let you try out stuff, even if you bring your own drip tip.

Check out Location Specific section here because generally any B&M worth its weight will have some online presence on ECF. Phil Busardo has a juice vendor list as well, sorted by prices. Good jump off point too.

RHP

 

[chesty]

arsenic is found in some fruits and vegetables and tobacco, when you concentrate the flavour, you concentrate the arsenic level.
whether or not it's harmful, or whether or not organic juice is better for you, I don't know, and I'm not sure anyone knows.

this whole organic thing can be marketing gimmick, for example, my supermarket sells bottled water labelled as organic, when water is inorganic.

do your research, and don't blindly believe the man behind the counter, and especially don't blindly believe me. because I have no idea what i'm talking about.
believe peer reviewed scientific studies that has a high consensus between scientists, and even then, scientists are sometimes wrong.
and to quote from a movie
"what, do you want to live forever?"

 

[odysseysteve]

My question is: is organic juice better?

My own personal opinion based on my personal experience is - Yes!

I quit smoking using e-cigs. I had smoked for 30+ years and was thrilled to be off the stink sticks. I even got heavily into DIY making my own juice. I loved mixing up new tasty creations. I was vaping 100% VG as PG gave me problems. Anyhow after about 6 months it felt as if something was building up in my body giving me what felt just like a mild flu. Got tired of feeling sick - quit quitting and started smioking again. I know... I felt "normal" again within a week. I narrowed the symptom causing juice ingredient down to the flavorings.

I can now vape again! I found by vaping Guilty Pleasures Organics juice I can vape tasty juice and feel great.

I have found many people here on ECF have negative feelings towards organic juice. Go figure.

Anyways, I am thrilled to be vaping again so I have had a fantastic experience vaping organic juice.

 

[New2vaps]

As the poster above stated, my body wasn't feeling well either. Then again I was vaping all kinds of ejuice for trial. So I can't point out which ejuice or flavorings were causing this. Went Organic and problems stopped. One thing I did notice, may sound stupid/strange but even the smell or my urine and color went back to normal with organic.

Dripeez all the way from here on out.

 

[hrlw817]

Good one, brother B&Ms are hit or miss. Some places you'll get someone like a Baditude/tnt56 behind the counter, but most places all you'll get is a dude one-notch up from your average gas station clerk trying to pimp their in-house juice and cheap disposible mods. I even heard some places won't even let you try out stuff, even if you bring your own drip tip.

Check out Location Specific section here because generally any B&M worth its weight will have some online presence on ECF. Phil Busardo has a juice vendor list as well, sorted by prices. Good jump off point too.

RHP

I have been going to this B & M for about 8 months now, and this was the first time I was offered this. It's also the first time I saw this guy. I thought I knew most of them that work there. This place will let you try their flavors. They even supply the drip tips. They have good juice, except once when my orangecicle juice tasted like a mixture pine-sol and lemon Pledge. I still have yet to try the organic bottle I bought, which I should get to in the next few days.

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Hi all. I was at my local B & M today and I was told they have organic juice, which I was offered for the first time today. I am just curious, the guy mentioned that the main difference is there is no carcinogens in organic juice. I didn't even know there was carcinogens in regular juice. I can't remember if he said VG or PG was the carcinogen. My question is: is organic juice better? He did say it is and there is more flavor with organic. I bought a bottle of it but have yet to try it.

And so how did it turn out for you?

 

[erazzz]

I vape natural/organic e-juice because I find the flavor to be more clean and true to what it should be. Honestly, I haven't seen a difference in my health since switching from the artificially flavored, high PG juice (which i strictly vaped for about a year). I cough and get a sore throat less just because vaping high PG causes some irritation for me, but it was never a serious problem. Honestly, I just prefer the natural 100% VG stuff.

 

[Sed Contra]

Many organic e-juices contain dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), which is the major component in acid rain...deadly stuff. DHMO can also be found in the breast milk of mothers who vape so-called "organic" e-juice.

"Organic" can be terribly misleading...

 

[firephly]

As far as I know there are no carcinogens in either Pg, Vg, or any of the flavorings. I think the guy was blowing smoke up your azz.

I have to admit for the last several months most of the juice I purchase are from e-liquid vendors that sell all-natural, all-organic flavorings. They seem to have a much higher flavor component, and no artificial-chemical taste like many flavors from other vendors sell.

Check out Dripeez, Vaperite, and Virgin Vapors for vendors that sell all-natural, all-organic e-liquids.

Free State Vapor is really good too, really clean tasting.

 

[firephly]

Many organic e-juices contain dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), which is the major component in acid rain...deadly stuff. DHMO can also be found in the breast milk of mothers who vape so-called "organic" e-juice.

"Organic" can be terribly misleading...

what is the source of this info? snopes.com: Dihydrogen Monoxide

 

[Sed Contra]

what is the source of this info? snopes.com: Dihydrogen Monoxide

Everything that I wrote is true...which is precisely my point: truth can easily be spun. I can make ejuice from feces and brand it "organic," just as I can spin the fact that water is the main ingredient in acid rain, that too much water can be deadly, and that this dangerous substance can be found in breast milk.

So...when it comes to labelling, to quote my friend and yours - Flava Flav: "Don't believe the hype."

Knowledge is power: Dihydrogen Monoxide is nothing more or less than pure, "high quality" H2O...absolutely essential & life giving, but also potentially deadly.

 

[erazzz]

Many organic e-juices contain dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO), which is the major component in acid rain...deadly stuff. DHMO can also be found in the breast milk of mothers who vape so-called "organic" e-juice.

"Organic" can be terribly misleading...

I was about to say...isn't that just another name for water? LOL I remember Penn and Teller did an episode on that.