Patriot rda,mvp2 issues with building

[kougialis]

Hello there again. So i recently asked if i would get patriot or omega rda clone. I went with patriot and posted some pics of my coil in that post.

Well my problem is that with my patriot i get not that vapour or flavor and its starting to get really frustrating. On my first build i managed to gets lots of vapour but i had other issues now my 2nd build still not working.... Either i got a bad clone or i am doing something wrong

My build is 1.6 ohms on my mvp2 at 9 watts(10 rounds with 28 kanthal).Also could the cotton i use be the issue? Below i will post some pictures.

Please feel free to say if my build is not good or any other issues you may find.

ps. On my patriot the 3 post holes look on different directions instead of the centre like the pictures in google of other patriot rdas...

 

[dirtybirdy]

There is not enough cotton and your coil should be closer to the post in my opinion. I can't really see your coil that great.

 

[kougialis]

There is not enough cotton and your coil should be closer to the post in my opinion. I can't really see your coil that great.

Ye sorry for the bad analysis of the pictures. so i should cover all the base with cotton? and gonna try moving it closer. Thnks m8

 

[Baditude]

More like this.

 

[bcalvanese]

I think the Patriot only has the option to use both air holes. If that is the case, you should do a duel coil build or block one of the holes. The other hole should be directly in front of the coil. If you do a duel coil build, insure that the holes are directly in front of the coils.

Try this...

put one of the air holes directly in front of the coil, then block the other hole with you finger while taking a hit. You should get good vapor and flavor.

 

[kougialis]

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wish my coils looked that awesome!!

 

[kougialis]

I think the Patriot only has the option to use both air holes. If that is the case, you should do a duel coil build or block one of the holes. The other hole should be directly in front of the coil. If you do a duel coil build, insure that the holes are directly in front of the coils.

Try this...

put one of the air holes directly in front of the coil, then block the other hole with you finger while taking a hit. You should get good vapor and flavor.

added more wick and my air hole was positioned where the coil is as for blocking the other one well then it makes it really hard to draw..

 

[bcalvanese]

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added more wick and my air hole was positioned where the coil is as for blocking the other one well then it makes it really hard to draw..

Then you will need to go with a duel coil build.

 

[bcalvanese]

Also, if you are only vaping at 9 watts and you want your coil to heat up quicker, use thinner wire and less wraps. Same resistance... less metal to heat up.

I've been using 32 gauge wire (5 wraps around a 2mm bit(2ohms)), and I can hear that juice sizzling as soon as I hit the button. I get great VTF too.

 

[kougialis]

Also, if you are only vaping at 9 watts and you want your coil to heat up quicker, use thinner wire and less wraps. Same resistance... less metal to heat up.

I've been using 32 gauge wire (5 wraps around a 2mm bit(2ohms)), and I can hear that juice sizzling as soon as I hit the button. I get great VTF too.

thnks a lot man i might try a dual coil build thnks for all the input!!

 

[VaPreis]

When using the MVP, I think you will find that using a thinner gauge wire will give better results. I would recommend using 29ga or 30ga for a similar resistance to what you are already building at. I would not recommend dual coils for the MVP. It simply doesn't have the output for it.

IMO, your build looks nice and your wicking is fine. Your coil should be as close to the air hole as possible, very much like you have it.

But when running a single coil, you only want one air hole directed at the coil. Otherwise, your just sucking air through the other hole that is not going to pick up vapor and is probably part of your disappointment. If the draw isn't open enough with one hole closed, drilling it for more airflow will be the best option. Start small and work your way up. It shouldn't take much.

 

[dirtybirdy]

I would use 28g kanthal. I don't know how low you are comfortable going ohms wise.

Are you just trying to produce big clouds of vapor or do you want excellent flavor?

If you are wanting clouds I would go with 28g wrapped around a 1/16 drill bit 6-8 times. Do it twice and it should come out around .6 ohms may be a little lower or higher.

If you want flavor try 28g wrapped around a 3/32 drill bit wrapped around 7 or 8 times. If you do dual coils should be around 1.2 ohms I think I'm not positive. (I don't do higher ohm builds).

If you are just trying to blow huge clouds and want to do cloud chasing you will need to drill your holes bigger probably to around 1/8. You will also want to drill the center post hole bigger so it can accommodate lower gauge kanthal such as 20 or 22gauge.

But doing the above you need a tube mod or a bow mod that can go up to 50watts.

I'm not that familiar with MVP I don't know what wattage they go up too. If they go up to 30 watts you should be fine with .6 ohms. If it goes to only 15-20 I would do the other build that would be around 1.2 ohms.

 

[dirtybirdy]

I tried to show a picture of my coil setup and where you want to position your air hole.

I use a different method when threading my coil when you are using.

But the way you thread your cotton can determine a lot about the vape.

If you look at your coil after you have hit it a couple of times and can see straight threw it along with cotton on the bottom you need to redo it because you don't have enough cotton.

You do not want there to be to much cotton either tho. It should not be easy to pull it threw the coil and at the same time it shouldn't be near impossible to pull through.

You want to have a little bit on tension when when pulling the cotton through the coil.

Also don't twist your cotton all up let it be nice and fluffy.

You can twist it to get it stared but fluff it back up once you have got it going.

Hope this helps.

 

[Smann245]

MVP limit is 11 watts. To the OP, try wrapping two pieces of 32g together around your drill bit and dont let them overlap. If done right it will look like one wire tightly wrapped with no gaps between wraps. That allows for thinner wire and you can use many more wraps without the resistance going through the roof. You get a decent length coil with wire that the MVP can heat up easily.

 

[JaysunR]

Yeah on a regulated mod like the MVP2, 11 watts is the highest it will go. I think it has a 3 amp limit as well. I own one and I would say just don't bother with dual coils, it struggles in a way trying to power it efficiently. Personally I find 30 and 32g wire to be the best with the mvp2. Both heat up nicely where as 28g will take a bit longer to heat up. Also if your coil is high try pushing it down a little but make sure you don't touch the deck. Sometimes I find if dead center with the coil isn't working for me I will move the hole a little off center. Personally I try to stay around 1.8-2.0 with the MVP2 just for battery life and more wraps to cover wicking area. I wouldn't go below 1.2/1.4. You can build low but the unit will compensate by dropping the voltage to not go over the amp limit. You can really get a nice amount of vapor and flavor with a MVP2+RDA combo but if you are looking to cloud chase just kill your dreams of doing that until you get a battery with more power. I love my MVP2 took me a while to realize I can get a great vape without having to go extreme with ohms and wire gauge.

 

[kougialis]

I would use 28g kanthal. I don't know how low you are comfortable going ohms wise.

Are you just trying to produce big clouds of vapor or do you want excellent flavor?

If you are wanting clouds I would go with 28g wrapped around a 1/16 drill bit 6-8 times. Do it twice and it should come out around .6 ohms may be a little lower or higher.

If you want flavor try 28g wrapped around a 3/32 drill bit wrapped around 7 or 8 times. If you do dual coils should be around 1.2 ohms I think I'm not positive. (I don't do higher ohm builds).

If you are just trying to blow huge clouds and want to do cloud chasing you will need to drill your holes bigger probably to around 1/8. You will also want to drill the center post hole bigger so it can accommodate lower gauge kanthal such as 20 or 22gauge.

But doing the above you need a tube mod or a bow mod that can go up to 50watts.

I'm not that familiar with MVP I don't know what wattage they go up too. If they go up to 30 watts you should be fine with .6 ohms. If it goes to only 15-20 I would do the other build that would be around 1.2 ohms.

just 11 watts max m8 so those builds are impossible for me

 

[fireguy967]

Hello there again. So i recently asked if i would get patriot or omega rda clone. I went with patriot and posted some pics of my coil in that post.

Well my problem is that with my patriot i get not that vapour or flavor and its starting to get really frustrating. On my first build i managed to gets lots of vapour but i had other issues now my 2nd build still not working.... Either i got a bad clone or i am doing something wrong

My build is 1.6 ohms on my mvp2 at 9 watts(10 rounds with 28 kanthal).Also could the cotton i use be the issue? Below i will post some pictures.

Please feel free to say if my build is not good or any other issues you may find.

ps. On my patriot the 3 post holes look on different directions instead of the centre like the pictures in google of other patriot rdas...

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This is a Double Nano Dragon build on my Patriot. Awesome flavor and vapor production with this build and after I opened up the air holes a bit more. The bed these could lay on are the most important aspect in getting good vapor and flavor. I have the outer end of each coil blocked so as to direct all vapor towards the airflow. I have found for best performance to have the bed just touching only the bottom of each coil and of course covering the outer openings. Make sure your coils are positioned either right at or just above the level of the air holes on your cap and then slightly tilted upward at the positive pin.

 

[fireguy967]

This is a Double Nano Dragon build on my Patriot. Awesome flavor and vapor production with this build and after I opened up the air holes a bit more. The bed these could lay on are the most important aspect in getting good vapor and flavor. I have the outer end of each coil blocked so as to direct all vapor towards the airflow. I have found for best performance to have the bed just touching only the bottom of each coil and of course covering the outer openings. Make sure your coils are positioned either right at or just above the level of the air holes on your cap and then slightly tilted upward at the positive pin.View attachment 388047

Oh yeah... I used 30 ga. Wrapped 14 times each around a 1 mm brad nail (my "go to" on all of my tanks and RBAs). It comes out to 1.2Ω. My SVD you see in the pic isn't supposed to fire anything below 1.2 Ω but it actually fires down to .7Ω. If I was using a mech mod then I would use sub ohm coils but for the SVD at 13.5~15 watts, 1.2 seems to be perfect.

 

[wshanncap]

All I can say for certain from the pics is that the cotton will not do. The stuff in drugstores does not wick like the stuff you get through a vape supply. I watched a LONG video that proved it for me.