PG, VG and PEG Alternate Possibly?

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Vantripper

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Here is a company in the USA that manufactures a PG biodegradable non toxic equivalent to PG. It looks promising and I wrote them this email with a few questions based on my 3 months of experience with the trappings of the ecig world!
Be interesting to see their reply if I get one!

IceClear PGX Glycol Replacement

Here's the email, maybe some of the experts here can chime in on higher levels of this ecig technology we're using!

Subject: IceClearR PGX and Nickel Chromium heating wire AND Piston Kleen Cleaning Product

This'll come across as a rather unique question for your company and may be best answered by biochemists onboard.



Let me preface this question with a few facts before I begin. First, there is a growing trend towards the use of electronic cigarettes, leaving many convinced that the ecig as we call it is less harmful due to the lack of combustion that normally occurs with burning tobacco and its associated additives. The general make up of the nicotine delivery system of the "ecig" is as such. A base or medium, nicotine in varying levels and flavoring agents. Now where our discussion comes into play is the medium. That medium is composed generally of 2 liquids used in varying degrees of combinations or by themselves, first PG (propylene glycol) and second VG (vegetable glycerin). These are recommended to be Pharmaceutical and/or Kosher grade making them pure as possible. These mediums along with the nicotine and various flavorings are transported via different methods to a wick that absorbs the liquids. A heating coil is sometimes wrapped around the wick, other times the wick is above it. The wire coil is made from Nickel Chromium wire due to its heat dissipation. It then heats the solution into a vapor and is inhaled by the ex-smoker. Many are not convinced of the safety of inhaling the quantities of PG or VG necessary to satiate the nicotine dependency on a daily basis.

So, my question would be, could this product be a safer substitute?

To help understand here are other parameters


The batteries (L-ION range from 3.2v to 6v with 3.7v being the most popular - They fire the coil.
The total heating coil, nichrome's resistance ranges from 1.5 to 5 ohms depending on the manufacturer - Average 2.7 to 3.2ohms

So total wattage present is generally between 3.2W upwards to 12w. With 4-8w being average.

PG has humectant properties, VG may release acrolein at higher temperatures. A conservative percentage of people suffer rashes or breathing issues due to either of these substances and will switch mediums.


Any ideas how your biodegradable IceClear PGX which appears to have the least additives might compare to PG/VG in this application?

Any studies regarding the combination of nichrome and Iceclear at the given wattages listed above. Residues, dangerous vapors due the heating?


Last but not least the atomizer which is the part that holds the wick and coil tends to carbonize quickly depending on the PG or VG, sugar contents in "ejuices" and various other flavorings creating reduced vapor. Would your Piston Clean or any other similar product reduce or eliminate this carbon buildup and if so, since the whole atomizer unit would be submerged therefore liquid would absorb into stainless steel mesh and as well as the wicking material, can it be cleaned completely with no residue present afterwards simply perhaps by using water as a rinse? No one wants to inhale cleaning agents per-se. Many have tried various alcohol preparations, weak acids and alkaline substances as well as higher H2O2 preparations with varying degrees of success but they all have their draw backs.


This could open another market segment for your company if in fact these questions can be satisfactorily answered and even better substantiated scientifically through independent or government testing!
Thank you for your time and patience, looking forward to hearing from you!
Sincerely;
 
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