Phoenix and Bulldog (from OKCvapes.com). Are they the same?

[emcee7one4]

I recently re-watched the phoenix review from grimmgreen and the bulldog review from pbusardo and they both look similar, but are they really?

I want to get one of them as my first rba so i can start practicing and improving on making coils. I also wanted to ask, what works better as a coil, nichrome or kanthal?

 

[Kirbysmusclecar]

I have waited on buying this atomizer for the same reason. I honestly think they are not the same due to the reasons,

I have seen vendors state Phoenix Atomizer (style) or (clone).

If you can also look at the different videos, one has black plastic underneath the coil screw posts and Pbusardo's video has white plastic screw posts. This is why I am leaning on buying from one of the original vendors Grimm has posted where to buy these. Also Mountainoaksvapors.com seems to be the original Phoenix from Photos, but again who knows if its a clone.

 

[Aoi~]

Got one from OKCvapes. Loving it. Least fiddly way to drip I've come across so far. Draw is on the tighter side, but I'm not complaining. Coil looks like its gonna be interesting to rebuild something so small.

 

[Ratman]

I really want to get one of these to mod for bottom feeding. Only thing holding me back is that it would leave bare brass exposed to the juice feeding up through the newly drilled hole. Wish there was more definitive info on the effects of chemical reaction between brass and e-liquids. I have heard it mentioned to press fit a ss tube into the drilled hole but no idea where I would get a tube that small or if I could even get in there.

 

[Lax]

I've got a Bulldog from OKCVapes on the way, should be here Thursday. My first journey into rebuildables...very excited but trying to keep my expectations low given that it's a $12 RBA.

 

[Cuando]

I jumped the gun and got the Bulldog from OKCVapes after watching the pbusardo review. It's my first RBA, and that first few hours with it I figured I'd wasted my money. I got really harsh, dry hits, and even the fuller vapes were just not living up to my expectations. I let it sit, frustrated, and an hour or two later I vaped on it again and it was absolutely great!

So, fast forward to today, it's my primary vape on a lavatube when I'm home. Just love the flavor, the volume of vapor, and all this is on the stock coil. I am planning to make a coil for it when the time comes, but after a little over a week this thing is still hitting fierce.

A good tip to know, and I had to poke around for, is to be sure to use the o-ring that comes with the Bulldog to position the body so the airhole points at the coil, not down along it. I'd also recommend not doing what I did and letting the atty sit long enough for the wick to become fully saturated. I think that was a majority of the reason I was getting such terrible performance right out of the gate.

 

[tobarger]

I recently re-watched the phoenix review from grimmgreen and the bulldog review from pbusardo and they both look similar, but are they really?

Liberty Flights and Vapor..... are the only US distributors for the original eshots Phoenix RBA
All the others are knock offs

Still waiting to see who will be the US distributors for the Phoenix XL
It became available in the Philippines on 9-1-12

 

[unloaded]

I really want to get one of these to mod for bottom feeding. Only thing holding me back is that it would leave bare brass exposed to the juice feeding up through the newly drilled hole. Wish there was more definitive info on the effects of chemical reaction between brass and e-liquids. I have heard it mentioned to press fit a ss tube into the drilled hole but no idea where I would get a tube that small or if I could even get in there.

You can get a syringe needle in whatever gauge you need to use for a liner tube.

 

[Ratman]

You can get a syringe needle in whatever gauge you need to use for a liner tube.

Yes, I saw that suggestion somewhere. I ordered 3 of them to mod out for bottom feeders using the needle liner suggestion. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

[Jimi D.]

I bought the Phoenix and the Bulldog. They are both slightly different. I tapped the air holes, to improve the vapor. All in all, they are worth the price.

 

[Jimi D.]

Liberty Flights and Vapor..... are the only US distributors for the original eshots Phoenix RBA
All the others are knock offs

Still waiting to see who will be the US distributors for the Phoenix XL
It became available in the Philippines on 9-1-12

Ah ha! I just looked at Vapor...... I didn't know that they were made in the Philippines. I just had my Son order my birthday present

 

[dwcraig1]

The Bulldog is the Phoenix clone, I like the A7 much better and it would be a good bottom feeder as the air hole is in the center post.
The Phoenix can not be modified to have the air come through positive post, not easily anyway.
I have both and prefer the the A-7 , it's just easier to work with.

Let me just add than they both work great and cost little.

 

[Jimi D.]

I got the real Phoenix today. What a gem! This hits much harder. The air hole is perfect. Also if you play with the coil, you can adjust the TH. The higher the coil, produces get a bigger smoother vapor. The lower the coil, less vapor, but more TH.

 

[LucidAce]

I bought the Phoenix and the Bulldog. They are both slightly different. I tapped the air holes, to improve the vapor. All in all, they are worth the price.

Jimi,

Did you use a drill to enlarge the hole?

 

[Jimi D.]

Jimi,

Did you use a drill to enlarge the hole?

The hole is perfect on the Phoenix from Vapor...... I enlarged the holes from OKC and Litecig.

 

[LucidAce]

The hole is perfect on the Phoenix from Vapor...... I enlarged the holes from OKC and Litecig.

How about on the Bulldog from OKC, in particular.

 

[Jimi D.]

How about on the Bulldog from OKC, in particular.

Yes I did, but I gave up on that one. The positive center pin at the 510 connector kept on collapsing on me.

 

[phab3k]

I had issues with my bulldog I got a few days ago, the center post would push way up. used a needle to pull it back out, haven't had an issue since. the vapor it produces is amazing.