I use to love them, when I first started. I've been trying to keep a bottle of pink and blu spot around, because they are pretty good, but even they have the cleaning product flavor feel.. I keep giving my bottles of pink and blu spot to a friend that just started. He loves them, but my girlfriend was vaping from vendors I was using while I didn't use pink spot at all, and once I ordered from them, she said they taste like laundry detergent. The artificial flavoring really helps with wicking. I don't get any problems with standard sized, punched cartomizers from pinkspot.