PLEASE! help, I need to know if these batteries work on the Provari.

[Artorius]

I already ordered them a week ago and I realized now they might not work because of the end design.

AW 18650 Protected 3100 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

I can't tell if it has a positive button on the top or not? Is it covered with protector making it look flat?

Also it doesn't say "high drain" on these types and I just assumed they are.
Does this matter, did I make a mistake?

I need to know so I can send them back without opening the package.

THANK YOU.

 

[Playa_hamm420]

I do NOT think those will work mainly cause there missing a nipple top.. flattops wont make contact on the inside post..

I could be wrong ive never tried that specific battery in my provari but every other flat top ive tried dosent work.

 

[the_austrian]

I don't think they will work as-is, but a lot of people use small magnets or a little bit of solder to make a makeshift nipple. You might want to try that.

 

[andyman97]

What the_austrian said is correct, I use these exact batteries in my provari. They are NOT high drain IMR's. The are protected lithium ion cobalt cells. If I were to order this type of battery again, I would go with the AW 2600 mah protected LI cobalts. They have a more efficient cell and the voltage stays up longer.

 

[Artorius]

I do NOT think those will work mainly cause there missing a nipple top.. flattops wont make contact on the inside post..

Did some research and regular size is.

18650 battery - 18mm x 65mm

The ones I ordered are.

Dimensions :18.52 X 68.16mm ( +/- 0.3mm )

So they are actually 3.16mm longer.

So does that mean they will probably work, Is no contact the reason why flat tops don't work? Or is it the actual positive nipple size thingy that makes the difference?

 

[andyman97]

I am using these exact batteries in my provari and they work. You have to have the 18650 extension cap from provape to use them.

 

[the_austrian]

The size is no problem (unlike with a lavatube), but it needs to have a nipple to make contact.

 

[karmakatie]

The batteries you want for the Provari are the AW IMR High drain, 2000mah is the highest they go. The are the solid red AW's

 

[Artorius]

The batteries you want for the Provari are the AW IMR High drain, 2000mah is the highest they go. The are the solid red AW's

I thought it would be better to go for something with more protection. Since I'm nervous of safety, wanted to be as safe as possible to better avoid explosion etc. I have my mind set on something with PCB protection.

Andyman and the Austrian thanks. but your replies are giving me mixed messages.

Andyman is saying he has these exact batteries and they work.

And The Austrian says the size is no problem, but it needs to have a nipple to make contact.

I have the extension cap. thanks

 

[Artorius]

Andyman are these the batteries you are recommending me.?

http://www.happyvaper.com/AW_18650_Protected_2600mAh_3_7V_Battery_p/batt-aw18650.htm

AW 18650 Protected 2600 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

If I'm wrong, would it be possible to have you link me to some for example.

 

[the_austrian]

Unless they changed it in the new version of the Provari, the battery has to have a nipple. Andyman even agreed to this. You can, however, make this nipple yourself, then you can use your batteries. The end cap in the Provari has a spring, so it compensates for the slightly increased length of protected batteries.

cheers, Alex

 

[andyman97]

Yes, you will need to either solder a blob onto the top of the lithium ion cobalts or put a magnetic spacer on. Either will work but you only need these for the black ion cobalt batteries, IMR reds already have nipples on them.

The chart below shows how three different AW batteries performed. While the 2900 looks like it lasts longer than the 2600, the voltage starts off lower and drops quicker actually giving less useable power in the provari, depending on what voltage you vape at. The 3100 uses the same type of cell that the 2900 does. The 2600 uses a different cell. This is why I recommend the 2600 over the 2900 or the 3100.

With regards to using an IMR red or an ion cobalt black, provape recommends only using AW IMR high drains. That is the recommended battery to run. I've been using cobalts since I got my provari and haven't had any issues. The provari works fine and I haven't had any issues. Provape has a very expansive explanation as to why they recommend IMR's on their website, I would suggest reading that to help in making your decision.

 

[Artorius]

found this taken from theE-ciggarette forum. Which implies differently.
Please read and let me know what you think.

I wandered on over to Lighthound to check out some high drain 18650's and 14500's and found this beauty: AW 18650 Protected 2900 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

It says 'AW', which I think I've seen on high drain batteries...or do I see IMR on them?

How can I tell which are high drain? Will they say either, both, neither...?

Thanks in advance!

Link: AW 18650 Protected 2900 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery

answer:

The black label protected cells (in fact, almost any cell that is "protected" from any brand) is always a Lithium Cobalt chemistry li-ion cell. Maximum safe drain rates will be in the 1-2C range depending on the manufacture. AW has been souring cells for years capable of 2C rates reasonably well. These are NOT "IMR" (Lithium Manganese Oxide) "high rate" cells, however, when you have a cell with as much capacity as an 18650, there isn't really any NEED for the high rate capable cell. Those 2900mAH AW cells are re-badged and protected Panasonic made cells. They are about the safest and highest performing LiCo chemistry cell on the planet right now and can easily deliver 5+ amps just fine which is far more than you will ever likely use in an ecig application.

The AW brand "high drain" cells are red label cells sold as "IMRXXXX0."
Example: AW IMR 14500 LiMN Rechargeable Lithium Battery
(those are what I use in my BB)

I would say that for 90+% of ecig applications, any cells 17500 size or larger can be LiCo chemistry and handle the current safely and with decent performance. The remaining 10% would be custom "multi-atty" or ultra-low-resistance customs. For smaller cell sizes, everything should be LiMn chemistry. LiFePO4 is really not a high drain chemistry unless it has nano tech to increase the surface area and reduce the resistance of the cathode, which is really only found in A123 cells.

What do either of you have to say about this?

AW IC 18650 2900 mAh Power Batteries

says this.

AW, when you want the best Li Ion Battery money can buy! This is the one. 2900mAH will keep you going and going. Fully protected with the finest protection circuits available. Besides the higher capacity, the 18650-2900 NNP is considered safer than regular lithium cobalt chemistry : - Heat Resistance Layer (HRL) technology that forms an insulating metal oxide layer between the positive and negative electrodes. The layer prevents the battery from overheating even if a short circuit occurs.

thanks for the replies.

 

[andyman97]

Everything you posted is accurate based on what I've found through my own research.

 

[Artorius]

anyone know if this would solve the nipple problem.

6mm Battery Spacers

It's a magnet but it's flat, so I'm not sure if it will just extend the problem, and then make the cap stick off even further.

 

[Capone]

I know avidvapor.com has a good stock of different spacers try there if you shoot them an e-mail they may be able to point you to the right one Magnetic Battery Spacers - Avid Vaper

 

[Artorius]

Avid Vaper looks good.

How would I know what size to get?

Does it even matter?

 

[Shortstuff116]

I ordered my AW IMR 3.7 volt 2000 mah batteries from Super-T at a good price of $10.95 each. You may want to email them first to see if they are in stock yet, but as a suggestion you can get them anyway. I am very pleased with the performance of mine.