Please help out a newbe with his Smok RSST

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54D3

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Oke so i got a meter, my batry is at aprox 3.6 but i cant get a decent ohm reading on my rsst,
positive on the thing that touches the batery and negative on the thread right ? i drilled out my airhole
to aprox 1.5, rebuild a coil, les tight, oxedised the mesh, no hotspots but still i cant get a decent vape
when i try to get the ohm on my rsst it wont stabalise, just goes between 0 and 3 back n forth, is there
a more easy way to mesure this ?
 

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measure the resistance at the screws on the top of the atty.
the battery is already past dead for a mechanical at 3.5 and if this is in fact 32g the resistance is going to be higher then satisfactory for mechanical vaping with a half dead battery.
the way it is now there is not enough wire touching the wick, the resistance is not low enough, and the battery is half dead.

the only way to get into the range you are looking for will be to drop down to 30 or 28g wire. and stay at or below 1.2 ohms, the very thin wire coupled with standard resistance will never do anything other then "some vapor" most of those videos are assuredly in the .8 ohm or lower range using heavier gauge wire.

the only time I use 32g on an RBA is for a regulated (VV/VW) mod using around 4 or 5 wraps for about 2 ohms.
 
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positive on the post in the center, neg on the screw holding the coil

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you should have the multi meter set to the lowest resistance range, most of the standard cheaper ones usually say 200 or something.

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i see in the other post you say it jumps around, if it really is jumping something is loose or shorting somewhere.
 
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54D3

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oke thanx, im at 2.3 ohm on my rsst
i dont know how much g. my coil is, its kanthol A1 0.20mm
i did a 3 wrap on my mesh (3rd one goes to center i gues thats a 3wrap)
so if i understand this corectly i need to try a 2 wrap ? to put the ohm down ?
you mentioned bigger coil, what if i turn 2 together ? i saw a guy on youtube use
a coil like that, but dont know if he made it or he bought it like that.. i mean if i
turn em together realy tight that might be a solution ?
I ask you to please bare with me on this one :facepalm:
 
Hi everybody,
after trying starter kit's for a while ive bought something more serious,
i got a sigelei 19B mod, with a Smok RSST, a 18650 flat top, some
Kanthal A1 0.20mm and some #500-25 Micron mesh ?
Thanx to youtube i managed to build the thing up, it looks great,
(compared to a stater kit at least) The taste is right on, BUT
from all the youtube video's i watched, everybody was blowing out
a truck load of smoke... wile i get (i sh#t you not !) less than what
i got out of my starter kit.. so i must do something wrong.. i mean im
shure nothing's broke, and im shure it can produce more vapor, so it
must be my build up that's messing things up..
just for the record, i dont have an ohm, electricity or volt meter,
nor do i have anny idea how to use it if i did.. i realise i barly know what
im doing.. but i got vapor out of it so i cant be that wrong :D
annyway, here's some pictures of what i managed to do, i'd love some feedback
o and i dont have hot spot's, the air hole is in line with the mesh and the coil is
wraped tight, but not to tight, its tight enought to touch the mesh but its not
like cutting into it

Great choice. I also have the Smoktech RSST.

1. Are you taking off the juice plug when you are vaping? that plug should be off when vaping
2. Are your batteries fully charged? weak batteries can lead to a weaker hit
3. The device will play a factor as well. some devices hit better than others.
4. Make sure your wick is fully saturated and that the wick is actually drawing liquid up the stem.
5. The hole on the cap can be bored out to loosen your draw.

I actually had my hole bored out and even had an additional hole drilled in. I've gotten so used to this that I can't even smoke my friend's RSST with 1 stock hole.


Hope this helps. good luck to ya!
 

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oke thanx, im at 2.3 ohm on my rsst
i dont know how much g. my coil is, its kanthol A1 0.20mm
i did a 3 wrap on my mesh (3rd one goes to center i gues thats a 3wrap)
so if i understand this corectly i need to try a 2 wrap ? to put the ohm down ?
you mentioned bigger coil, what if i turn 2 together ? i saw a guy on youtube use
a coil like that, but dont know if he made it or he bought it like that.. i mean if i
turn em together realy tight that might be a solution ?
I ask you to please bare with me on this one :facepalm:

well what info I can find .20 is 32g and if your really getting around 2.3ohms your never going to get a good vapor off of this, the only problem with using less wraps is now the resistance goes down but so does the amount of wire touching the wick, after a certain point that too will cause problems with vapor output. I know you can double the wire, i have never done it myself.

I think at this point the best you could do is just get some lower gauge wire and start over. if the twisted wire doesnt work, you really need to get to around 1.2 ohms or lower.

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just for an example here is a .8 ohm coil using a 4 wrap 28g wire on a mech
 

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It looks like your wick is huge. Is there any room between your wick, and the sides of the wick hole? I would start with 2" of mesh (lengthwise) and pull out the plug in the fill hole. If that works then you can up your mesh from there. I run 2" of 500 mesh in mine with the fill hole plug out, and it performs quite well.
 

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Hello,

First I would agree with those who have already posted saying that you really need an understanding of Ohm's law before tinkering with rebuilding. It can be a lot of fun, but there is a learning curve.. and you dont' want to be that guy who blows his face off.
Observations:
1. A lighter is very slow for oxidising. If you don't have a torch you can use your gas stove. Do at least give it a flame over before rolling. It will make life easier. When I first started, I used a drill bit or paper clip to roll my mesh on.

2. When you get a jumpy reading, check your connections. Make sure everything is tight and solidly connected. Also check to see that you are making a firm connection with your leads.

3. I usually get 3-6 wraps around my wick depending on what gage wire I am using and what resistance I am aiming for. 2/3 seems a bit low, but that is just my opinion. To a certain degree, the more wire you have touching our coil, the more opportunity you have for heat transfer and therefore vapor production.

4. Also as someone else mentioned, your device itself plays a role in all of this. As a former owner of a 19b, I can tell you that the one I received was plagued with switch problems, misfires (see any of the gazillion google results for a 19b). I am not saying that yours is bad, just that it should be checked because there are or have been a large number of problematic ones out there.

Here is one of my RSST's:

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54D3

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thanx texaslimo for taking the time to point that out.. i think i kinda underestimated the learning curve..
as for the 19b, yeah i get some misfires but i have no other mod to compare it to.. so for now i gues its ok..
and it misfires maybe 1 out of 10 times.. i can live with that..
i tried the double wire and a 2 wrap, came out around 1,1 ohm, did get a lot more vapor, but had some hotspots
and as you pointed out my negative was not wel conected.. my mesh is getting better to, im goint to re do a double
coil but with a 3 or 4 wrap..
ill get there, ill probably go trough an A4 of mesh and
a meter of coil before i get it how i want to but im prety confident ill work it out,
I must say tho that this forum is very suportive.. you all do help a lot.. thanx for that ! :toast:
 

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i'm on the RSST as well. i can concur with your build results.

on 32AWG Kanthal:
with 4 coils i get 2.4 Ohm.
with 3 coils i get 1.9 Ohm.

maybe you can try 28 or 30AWG Kanthal.
with 28AWG, 4 coils, i get 0.7 Ohm
with 30AWG, 4 coils, i get 1.0-1.1 Ohm (which is what i'm using now)

when i recoil my mesh, i roil it up to an almost solid piece and stuff it into the hole. then i stick a blunt needle down the middle of the mesh to make it stiff enough to work with. then i recoil with wire, and i coil it tight (once u remove the needle, the mesh should loosen up a bit, and not choke off liquid).

hope this helps!
 
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