Plz help...

[Edsport]

Hi everyone. I purchased an M401 from china and some 12mg marlboro flavored juice. It has very little vapor and no TH whatsoever. I'm very dissapointed with it. I had high expectations. I purchased 3 of these m401s and they are all the same.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of some higher nic juice with some decent vapor? I'm kinda hesitant to buy more juice unless i know it's gonna be better than what i have. I have 13 bottles of this liquid and very little vapor and as i said no TH. I'm in NL Canada. Thanks...

 

[JaYBoNeS]

Hi everyone. I purchased an M401 from china and some 12mg marlboro flavored juice. It has very little vapor and no TH whatsoever. I'm very dissapointed with it. I had high expectations. I purchased 3 of these m401s and they are all the same.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of some higher nic juice with some decent vapor? I'm kinda hesitant to buy more juice unless i know it's gonna be better than what i have. I have 13 bottles of this liquid and very little vapor and as i said no TH. I'm in NL Canada. Thanks...

I just bought 36mg vg flavourless liquid from Vapables. It gives great vapour and I'm just going to get some flavoured stuff to cut it down a bit and add flavour. I think it will work great. Order came fast too and email updates at all the shipping points. I'd definitely recommend it and they're also in Canada so no Customs issues. Only problem is they only took Paypal as a payment option, although that may be a plus? Hard to say with Paypal cracking down on e cig sales. .

 

[smokum]

Try picking up some Absolute (or some skreech you have laying around.... haha I kid !!), and some VG..... read up on the DIY juice section and experiment with what you have before diving in and ordering a bunch more juice (you "will" anyways in the end, lol), and finding you don't like them either.

Its not "always" about the nic level to get you T-hit, but VG will definitely give you more vapor.

Perhaps you should read up on your specific PV in the model specific discussion area on the forum and see if your not experiencing a common issue that may be easily rectified.

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[CellWho]

The 401 atty can take some time to break in. I know it can be frustrating at the beginning, but it should wake up after a day or so and the vapor and TH will increase.

I also recommend dripping two drops on the atty instead of using a cart (just remove the inner part of the cart and use the empty mouth piece). This will increase both the TH and vapor. Just be careful not to to drip more than two drops as you don't want to flood the atty and get liquid inside the battery. If liquid gets inside the battery, it will gunk it up. I've heard of people dipping the atty in liquid as well. Do a quick search on it.

Hope that helps.

 

[yello266]

you probably dont need to buy more juice, thats not the problem. its most likely the atti. yea like cellwho mentioned above, dripping and dipping may solve some of your probs. i would hate to think if it could be your batts or atts not working properly.

 

[BlondieLocs]

I started with the M401 model... I found that the secret to TH and vapor was taking loooong and easy drags. Try and reach the cut-off of your battery. If you suck short and hard, there's nothing there - other than the occasional mouthful of juice.

 

[Edsport]

Try picking up some Absolute (or some skreech you have laying around.... haha I kid !!), and some VG..... read up on the DIY juice section and experiment with what you have before diving in and ordering a bunch more juice (you "will" anyways in the end, lol), and finding you don't like them either.

Its not "always" about the nic level to get you T-hit, but VG will definitely give you more vapor.

Perhaps you should read up on your specific PV in the model specific discussion area on the forum and see if your not experiencing a common issue that may be easily rectified.

VapeOn,
Greg

Do you mean absolute vodka? Would this give a TH?
I ordered some vg from the usa and im tracking it, it went into a building in Huntingburg on Jan 10 but tracking shows that it's still there, 18 days now. Not sure if i will get it. I still need some high nic to mix this vg and vodka. I should have ordered the high nic when i bought this stuff but i'm a newbie and wasn't sure what i needed...

The 401 atty can take some time to break in. I know it can be frustrating at the beginning, but it should wake up after a day or so and the vapor and TH will increase.

I also recommend dripping two drops on the atty instead of using a cart (just remove the inner part of the cart and use the empty mouth piece). This will increase both the TH and vapor. Just be careful not to to drip more than two drops as you don't want to flood the atty and get liquid inside the battery. If liquid gets inside the battery, it will gunk it up. I've heard of people dipping the atty in liquid as well. Do a quick search on it.
Hope that helps.

I been using this atty for about 6 days now. I have tried different attys. I purchased 3 of those 401s. My daughter got one from me and she used it for 3 or 4 days then gave up on it. She said it was like sucking on air.

you probably dont need to buy more juice, thats not the problem. its most likely the atti. yea like cellwho mentioned above, dripping and dipping may solve some of your probs. i would hate to think if it could be your batts or atts not working properly.

It's not the attys or batteries. I have 4 batteries and daughter has 2, i bought 10 extra attys. Experimented with them but it's still the same.

I started with the M401 model... I found that the secret to TH and vapor was taking loooong and easy drags. Try and reach the cut-off of your battery. If you suck short and hard, there's nothing there - other than the occasional mouthful of juice.

I take long easy drags. It's still the same. It must be the juice that i'm using. Can't see it being anything else...

Anyone have any other ideas of where to get some good juice with lots of vapor and high nic?

Thanks everyone for the replies...

 

[beast775]

i found through trial and error in my first juice mix that,i found 40 proof wisers whiskey at 3 drops per3.5 ml really do the trick,i dont know why either?that was using 24mg tobac flavoured nic as a base.better th and more vape.maybe try a couple drops of alc.if you like or have any.if not i have seen ca vendors selling 36 mg nic.

 

[nyabzns]

I've got an M401 and like others have said, the attys do tend to take a few days to break in.

Mine works awesome now and almost competes with my 510 mod in vapor output.

I wouldn't blame anything on the juice but would recommend if you feel the need to try something different, try the Halo juice with the M401 . E-Liquid by Halo

 

[GaryS]

I too recently bought liquid from vapables, and I think it is excellent. I've heard very few good things about 401s, you might want to consider checking out a 510 from Happy Vapor. With the 510, you might find the liquid you have is not as bad as you think. If your atomizer is an under performer, no liquid will give you a throat hit, no matter how good the liquid is.
Best,

Gary

 

[Edsport]

I've got an M401 and like others have said, the attys do tend to take a few days to break in.

Mine works awesome now and almost competes with my 510 mod in vapor output.

I wouldn't blame anything on the juice but would recommend if you feel the need to try something different, try the Halo juice with the M401 . E-Liquid by Halo

It's broken in. I been using it for 6 days now. My daugter used hers for a few days also and have now given up on it cuz it does nothing for her. No TH and very little vapor. I checked that link for liquid and it seems that it's from the usa and very expensive but thanks for replying...

 

[myer]

do you taste the flavour?
sometimes the battery doesn't charge if not connected well to the charger even with the green light, or it can be the charger itself.

 

[BlondieLocs]

Have you checked the Troubleshooting Guide you can download here? There`s a section in it regarding your problem. Sometimes even just cleaning your contacts can make a huge difference...

 

[Edsport]

Well i purchased 3 of those M401s. I tried several batteries and a couple atomizers and my daughter has no better luck than i'm having. I'm not sure what the problem is but my guess is that it's not the cig itself. (Diff cigs and diff attys same problem). My guess is that it's the juice. Wish i had something diff to try but after purchasing 13 30ml bottles i'm not really sure i want to spend more money but i don't want to give up on it either. I feel like i will be wasting more money if i spend more money into this...

 

[bornagainst]

No offense to other 400 model lovers, but I have them, and they collect dust. Great design, but no followthrough.

Happy Vapers 510 or Vapor4Life's Kr8 models are the two that keep me sane.

However, I do need to try this new juice that electronic-cigz is carrying. I love new North American Juice, yet Vapables is really doing an awesome job making stuff.

At the end of the day, it's awesome that we all have some variety now.

 

[Edsport]

I got my vg today and now lots of vapor. Thanks everyone that commented...

 

[sheep]

I love Vapables homebrewed stuff. Especially the spearmint. The new crystal liquid from electronic-cigz is some pretty fantastic stuff too. Got a bottle of pomegranate on the way. Along with another M401 kit. I love the M401/402 but am also very happy to have a 510 from Happy Vaper as well.

Good luck Ed!

 

[teabagger]

Im waiting on Prodigy V2 in mail 5v ftw. Wish we had canadian 5v supplier. if you dont have one already, i suggest a UsB PT even the inline battery vapes at a higher voltage more consistently. warning once you try 4.5 + its hard to except anything less.

 

[accord96]

I think I read somewhere on here that the closer the device looks to a normal cigarette the lower the throat hit and vapor is, and that has been my experience.

With the smaller devices the atty is usually smaller, and so are the carts so the surface area of both the atomizer and what is being vapped are both going to be lower which result in lower amounts of vapor.

I know that vapor alone does not contribute to th but with more vapor there will be more hit.