Poldiac Clone

[Technonut]

Looks like the Chinese knock-off artists have been hard at work.. Here is the Poldiac Clone:


poldiac mod-shenzhen vapetech technology co.,ltd

The Poldiac is available in 3 tube sizes to fit 18350, 18490 and 18650
batteries and comes in a selection of materials and finishes is various
combinations making for completely fresh looking mod. The owner can even replace
the “shirt” and “pants” of the device to change the looks after purchase.

It achieves a near zero voltage drop with thick silver plated brass contacts
and it features a flat profile lockable button

 

[BuzzKilla]

and the clone war continues...

i wonder if the button mechanism was copied too.

 

[Technonut]

and the clone war continues...

i wonder if the button mechanism was copied too.

I wouldn't be surprised.. They've been taking to 1:1 exact copies recently.. From what I've read, most all parts from the Hcigar Chi You and Nemesis are completely interchangeable.. Hell, they're even silver-plating the pins...

 

[Rule62]

I wondered when the Poldiac clone would appear.

 

[gokusnimbus]

might as well clone every damn high-end mod. makes me i wonder if any high-end maker is secretly creating clones of their own mod. oh well its all a matter of time. all your favorite unicorns will be cloned. and those clones will be cloned.

 

[twistedchild316]

I'm all for cloning honestly. This is a good thing. A pretty battery tube shouldn't cost $300 IMO. If they can make a 1:1 replica and sell it for only around $30....you have to wonder what it costs the OG manufacture to produce these things.

 

[Rule62]

I'm all for cloning honestly. This is a good thing. A pretty battery tube shouldn't cost $300 IMO. If they can make a 1:1 replica and sell it for only around $30....you have to wonder what it costs the OG manufacture to produce these things.

I'm not. They annoy me. But, to each their own. I'll never buy one. Whatever anyone else does is up to them. I just wish we'd call them what they really are. Counterfeits.

 

[BuzzKilla]

i call them knock-offs... that is essentially what they are.

not trying to start a debate or an argument, but think about this.

many ECF'ers haven't been around that long.
they don't realize that all that ever came out of china was 901,808 and 510's(i'm not complaining)... i joined in during the "eGo revolution", so pardon my historical inaccuracies.

mods were limited to plumbing pipes & large wood boxes.

people eventually wanted better/safer.. So they created their own "chipped" box mods & battery holder mods.
The asians jumped on that idea, releasing cheap VV's with bad connectors and crappy switches... (lavatube anyone?)
that market died down, and now asians are pumping out the same chip in a different package, just to keep the factories going...
what happens when they start doing that, without proper testing... THE GROOVE, hello explosions!
no innovation there anymore....

Go a bit further. Mods get better... people are machining mods that they can call works of art.
Chips get better and more powerful, mods get more elegant.
It takes time and money to make something different, customer absorbs the cost...
The chinese market swoops in and starts creating battery mods similar to what the North American & European market is pushing out....
But, the R&D isn't there, and products end up in the hands of those willing to fix them.(not the general public)
Customers are in an uproar... Chinese market responds with counterfeiting exact copies of desirable mods/atties/tanks and even the chips.
Those that couldn't afford, now can....
YAY!, or is it?

What i think will happen from here on?
Mod makers are going to keep to themselves, and once that happens, nothing new will come out from the chinese market for mas-production. and we will be vaping on the same thing for a few more years...

until the cycle repeats itself again.

what i think we should do?
Support only those that contribute to companies that actually try to push out a better product.
Not the ones that clone for a quick buck.
There are companies across the pacific that are trying... tell THOSE guys what you want!

If you have a problem with my thoughts, you can IM me, no need to clutter the thread

 

[Valhalla17]

I'm all for cloning honestly. This is a good thing. A pretty battery tube shouldn't cost $300 IMO. If they can make a 1:1 replica and sell it for only around $30....you have to wonder what it costs the OG manufacture to produce these things.

And if people quit creating quality mods for them to clone? I'm sure the chinese will setup and keep us in new and innovative devices cuz that is what they are know for right?

 

[twistedchild316]

And if people quit creating quality mods for them to clone? I'm sure the chinese will setup and keep us in new and innovative devices cuz that is what they are know for right?

I honestly would only care if they creators stopped making high end atty's and VV/VW devices ....because honestly IMO the high end mechs are nothing more than glitzed up battery tubes. Only IMO once again.

 

[Valhalla17]

To me, the question isn't what specifically what we may or may not like. It's the principle involved, if we don't support the principles of others, it is guarranteed that others won't support yours should you be in need. All depends on how you look at it.

 

[twistedchild316]

To me, the question isn't what specifically we may or may not like. It's the principle involved, if we don't support the principles of others, it is guarranteed that others won't support yours should you be in need. All depends on how you look at it.

Good point sir......I haven't been vaping too long so the price on some mods boggles my mind. My main hobby/job is car audio. And in Car Audio there is a HUGE difference in a $200 "5,000 watt" and a $1,000 TRUE 5,000 watt amp. And there are true noticeable differences.....but with vaping so far I just can't see justification in the prices in a lot of the gear. I can appreciate the beauty of some of the pieces.....but not enough to warrant a $300+ purchase.

 

[Technonut]

It's all relative... It now boggles my mind that I used to spend $220-255.00 every month on cigarettes / cigars... So, if I see a nice mod or atty I like enough, I'll buy it. At least I can trade or sell them on down the line if I want. Try doing that with empty packs, ashes, and butts.

If I were to quit vaping, more than likely I'd be back to spending that amount anyway. For the past 3 years since I quit smoking, I allow my vape-budget to be up to $255.00 a month. I don't go out of my way to spend that amount, but I will if I see something I like.

 

[Technonut]

AG's take on the Chi You clone.... (and others)

 

[st0nedpenguin]

Why would the original mod makers pack up shop and stop making new mods?

It's not like they don't have people chomping at the bit to buy the originals regardless of the clones.

It's an absurd idea.

 

[Plastic Shaman]

Why would the original mod makers pack up shop and stop making new mods?

It's not like they don't have people chomping at the bit to buy the originals regardless of the clones.

It's an absurd idea.

This. I keep seeing this come up over and over. Last night, I bought my first Poldiac and I can't wait for it to come in. However, most of their models were sold out, well the 18650 ones anyways, and I doubt this will change much. Same thing with the other high end mods that have been cloned recently.

Some people believe this is an ethical issue. They are right and if you don't want to support on principal, then you shouldn't and you're probably justified.

However, people who claim that this will stop people from producing mods, I don't see that happening. Maybe there is a scenario where it might, but as long as people are still buying high end mods to the point of scarcity, I don't really see innovation being halted.

 

[UncleChuck]

And if people quit creating quality mods for them to clone? I'm sure the chinese will setup and keep us in new and innovative devices cuz that is what they are know for right?

That's not going to happen. High end devices will always have a market, and very few if any high-end mod makers are even capable of keeping up with demand. As long as their products constantly sell out, which they do, the clones and knockoffs have zero effect to the original mod makers.

It's the same argument used in many different fields, that knock-offs kill innovation. The opposite is always proven to be true, knockoffs drive innovation. Consider how Kick released the Kick2 after Smoktech and Segelei cloned the original kick.

Without knockoffs companies try to rest of their laurels. When companies make clones at a much more competitive price, this gives motivation to the original makers to improve and come out with new designs.

Really, everybody wins. The original makers still profits just as much as they would otherwise, technology is improved and innovation promoted, consumers have the choice of a high-end original or a clone, and some other people make a profit as well selling clones.

I'm not going to feel bad about a situation without victims, and you can't call the original makers victims unless their sales are taking a hit due to clones, which they aren't.

 

[Thrasher]

I'm all for cloning honestly. This is a good thing. A pretty battery tube shouldn't cost $300 IMO. If they can make a 1:1 replica and sell it for only around $30....you have to wonder what it costs the OG manufacture to produce these things.

time, most of the high end mods arent made by a factory full of underage workers running cnc machines 24/7 they are often made by a small team of people who actually check the tolerances and finishes as well as ensure the plating on the pins is the correct thickness and several other things. I have never seen an original show up with bad finish or missing parts.

nothing wrong with clones or the people who buy them, i never would, I prefer to give those people incentive to keep making originals. which then gives china incentive to make clones for others.

someone on here once said "it boils down to the more 0's to the right of the decimal point when machining means the more 0's to the left of the decimal point at the register"

And if people quit creating quality mods for them to clone? I'm sure the chinese will setup and keep us in new and innovative devices cuz that is what they are know for right?

oh boy! the vivi nova rev 30 coming right up sir!!.



take a trip to the classies and see how well people like there clones, for every 1 poldiac sold near cost there is 30 china clones people have to sell at a loss. its getting to the point there is hardly any high end gear in there anymore.

 

[MattyB1503]

I really have nothing to say other than If you think an authentic Poldi cost ~ 30 USD to manufacture you better share what you've been smoking.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

I really have nothing to say other than If you think an authentic Poldi cost ~ 30 USD to manufacture you better share what you've been smoking.

The clones probably cost about $3.