Power for swear spot with AVS

[twilab]

I've notice so far that runnig atty's with AVS required about twice as much power in comparison with traditional methods. If usualy w/o AVS normaly I would say that 7-9 watt is the best, with AVS it looks like more 12-16watts.

For example I can't get best taste on 901LR - 3.7v (1.6om and 8,5-11 watts). On the other hand 901 std ok on 6.4v (12-14watts). 901HV even better on 7.4v (13-16watts). 901VHV is also nice on 7.4v (that is 12-14watts)

What is your expirience here? Do you find 901LR on 3.7v satisfactory? May be I miss something here

 

[moonlight]

I have an old school Nano, does that make a difference? It's a 3.7 and I just put a LR 901 atty on it last night for the first time.

I noticed right away the flavor was much weaker...great vapor hit though, better then a regular 901 atty. Today, I'm really feeling the throat hit, but the flavor of my Cuban Cigar isn't nearly as yummy as normal.

So I guess when you ask if the set up is satisfactory, my answer is, it depends on what I'm in the mood for...flavor or vapor. Oddly, I haven't noticed much difference in battery life. But maybe with the bigger vapor, I'm hitting it less.

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Edited to add: man, you're asking about the AVS and I don't have that. Never mind...I gotta actually READ posts before I reply to them! sorry!

 

[booker]

What is your expirience here? Do you find 901LR on 3.7v satisfactory? May be I miss something here

Yeah I do. I'm quite impressed by it on the AVS @ 3.7v with 2600mAh batty.

Vapour/taste/th is just cool.

Although, if you use the fuse mod LR will not always work fine. Especially for BE112LR.

 

[twilab]

Yeah I do. I'm quite impressed by it on the AVS @ 3.7v with 2600mAh batty.

Interesting, I've tried on rcr123 and on 18650 (2500mah). With both it is feeling that just not enough power to vaporize liquid quickly enough. To get the same amount as on HV (7.4) I have to push button twice longer.

May be on my LR atty's hole a bit large and it get too wet for this power. Visually atty hole looks a little bit bigger than on VHV I've bought from Lisa.

Thanks,

 

[booker]

Dodgy LR atty perchaps, yeah. What resistance you have with it?

 

[twilab]

Dodgy LR atty perchaps, yeah. What resistance you have with it?

Resistance is ok - 1.6om. And they are ok with dripping/cart.

 

[booker]

Hmmmmmm

So, if you don't use AVS on GG they work okay, but they're weak with AVS?

The only thing I could think of is you flood them wit AVS (they got weak on me when flooded with AVS).

 

[imeothanasis]

Atty is flooded twi my friend. Also when atty gets older then more volts are required. When I see this, I blow air inside atty (from the mouthpiece), or change volts. I go from 6 to 7,2 and it works like a dream

 

[booker]

Yeah.

btw. LR atty will blow on 6v and above.

 

[imeothanasis]

Yes, if we are talking about LR atties, I agree booker my friend. So when liquid finish then we can take out the AVS and blow air from the mouthpiece. Very quick way to unclogg the atty easy and nice

 

[booker]

Yes my friend

 

[twilab]

Atty is flooded twi my friend.

Most likely it is. But still it seems just more power needed to work fine. It seems mine 901LR and 901HV has exactly same size of the hole. 901HV on 7.4 works great, but 901LR get flooded on 3.7v.

Could be any tricks here or just I need to try other models of 901LR with smaller hole?

 

[booker]

I'd try just get 901 LR from somewhere else (or just another 901 LR atty)and try again. The problem might not be in the hole but in the draw. Some folks reported issues with too light draw for 901.

Also, perchaps keeping CR more open (to feed the atty less) would help?

 

[imeothanasis]

Twi, the issue is with the atty's draw and not in its hole as booker said. But leaving the CR totally open will solve this issue. And of course you can clean the atty by the blowing method as I said before. Its easy and clean too

 

[twilab]

Thanks guys,

Finally I've managed to run 901LR with satisfactory results. Main thing is to keep collector tank totaly dry, if it leak even in small ammount atty do not have enough power to dry it normaly (at least the way HV does it) even with fully open CR.

Taste and vapor is fine with it, but it miss some TH in comparison with HV anyway

 

[VPDownunder]

I tried using an LR 901 at 3.7v with the AVS and it just wasn't enough for me, vapor production seemed weak as I've been used to 4.7v - 5v with a reg 510, tried a reg 910 at 6v and 6.4v and it was too hot and killed the flavor so my GGTS got shelved until my order of HV 901's came in. They arrived today so I put on the 18650 extension changed the atty over to my new HV's, loaded it up and gave it another try at 7.4v (I'm using the fuse) , I'm quite pleased with the result and it's pretty close to my sweet spot now with good flavor and vapor production though I reckon I could nearly pole vault with this baby lol. I'd use 2 3.7v cr123's on it but much prefer the battery life out of 2 18650's

 

[clyde2801]

I've got a 3.7v non imeo 901 atty in my AVS running at 7.4v! Every bit of my vaping experience screams that this shouldn't work, but it does. I can't explain it, but I can enjoy it. I'm calling this setup 'Frankenvape'.

It well may be that the draw is tight on this atty, but it must also be on my two LR 901s. Then again, I've got to up the current a bit on even my i3s and i6s.

Thankfully, the GGTS is an undisputed champ at handling various battys, and I've got quite a few in my desk drawer. I'm getting vape, so its all good.

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

AVS is blowing me away Clyde.... some studies are needed... The past is the old days.

Yes I'm a seller now... Lucky break jumping on the AVS bandwagon

 

[clyde2801]

Okay, I think part of the whole avs process depends upon how tightly you screw the AVS to the collection tank.

If it's really good and hand snugged, there seems to be a very tight draw, flooded atty (even with a wide open control ring) and the need of 2x the rated current of the atty to get a good vape. The collection tank stays bone dry, and the switch gets hot after repeated use.

But if I loosen the avs just a bit before screwing the collection tank onto the battery, the dynamics change. Juice starts to drip a bit into the tank (and a tiny bit on the outside of the mod), less current can be used, and the button doesn't get as toasty warm. Tightening the CR then becomes a necessity to keep the vape from tasting burnt.

If you're having the tight draw, little vape, flooded atty problem, you may want to loosen the top part of the ggts off of the battery, loosen the avs from the tank a quarter or half turn, and then retighten the ggts to the battery.

Really does make this a mod for advanced users....makes me think about tinkering with the carburetor on my '78 Trans Am.

BTW, now getting some good results from a LR901 atty-at SIX VOLTS!

 

[VPDownunder]

I tighten mine completely and even stack 2 18650's (with fuse) and never have the button get warm.