I do not have a zen but do have a Preciseplus, I really want to get better at genisis attys but have not had much luck yet. If I knew someone in my area that had it down and got to try his genisis then I bet I would be inspired to work harder at making it work but until I do I love a hh357 on my P+18350. Someone else mentioned this already but supert is coming out with the precise strata which will be capable of being a genisis style atty and will also have some new sort of wick that supposedly never goes bad but I have no idea what it is. Check out the strata thread in the supert subforum for the drawings, looks pretty sweet to me. Again though, like the zen, there is gonna be a wait, the strata is not even in production, I believe a prototype has been or is being made now so it could still be a few months out. I would say that since a non strata p+ is gonna be available soon then maybe pick one up and then you can use that while you are waiting for the zen to become available, and if you dont like the precise then you can always sell it in the classies for close to what you paid as long as you take care of it. Good luck to you.