Problems with suicide bunny juices and other high vg e liquids - burning taste

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sixstringer85

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hi guys,
iI'm brand new to this forum, but i have been vaping now for the last 3 months, and i have been loving it. I started the same way i think most do, buying a crappy ego style with a ce4 clearomizer, and quickly moved up to a VV spinner, then onto a itaste MVP.
The MVP is now my main battery, with a vision spinner 2 as a back up.
My main tank now is a Aspire Nautilus Mini (BVC Coils) but i also use a kanger pro tank mini 3 and have just bought a kanger genitank mega yesterday.

They are all brilliant tanks imo. The aspire is definitiely my fave. With its variable airflow, i usually have it set to either the 2nd or 3rd notch as prefer mouth to lung hits. However, after noticing how much airier the genitank mega is, i've started trying lung hits, to some degree of success.
My usual go to vape is from a company in the UK called Kraken Ecigs. They make some really nice flavours, my fave at the minute being a gingerbread and choc one. PG/VG ratio is 60pg 40vg. Lung hits on that are pretty harsh. so i have now gone back through some of the other liquids i have in my collection.

As I am forever experimenting and looking for new juices, i have been recently trying some american higher VG juices, and am loving companies like fusion vapor, vintage vapes, and suicide bunny.
The only one i am having a real problem with is the Original Bunny from suicide bunny. I love the taste, at first. But after a few hits, especially in the kanger tanks, i start to get the horrible burnt coil taste. I leave it a little while, or try a few primer puffs and its ok again for another couple of toots. but then the burning taste will come back. this even happens in the nautilus mini, but it takes a little longer. After a while, all i get is a butter taste (its supposed to be a cake and cream taste). I have tried swapping the coils out etc so i know its not them.

every other juice i have can handle whatever wattage/voltage i throw at it. If i turn down the voltage to about 3.8v it seems fine, but that doesnt really produce the hit i'm looking for.

So after that huge long explanation, my question is this.
Is original bunny from suicide bunny designed for a dripper? because every tank i have tried it in, to me, feels like the wicks in the coils can't keep up with the thick liquid. But i do have other high VG liquids that are perfect.
Its really annoying as i love the taste. But as its a pain in the ... to vape, i find myself leaving the juice to one side and vaping other stuff.

Any help on how to solve this, or just to help confirm what i feel is an unsuitable juice for my set up, would be most appreciated :)
Has anyone else had similar problems with this particular juice or brand. Or other liquids too?
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I remember reading about this. Then I promptly forgot because I mix my own juices. Heck I even through out some sweet cream flavoring simply because I wasn't sure.

That said, makes me wonder how dangerous it is. I mean, I know popcorn lung and all, but considering how many people have chain vaped it for how long... I'm amazed there aren't lawsuits already.
 

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I remember reading about this. Then I promptly forgot because I mix my own juices. Heck I even through out some sweet cream flavoring simply because I wasn't sure.

That said, makes me wonder how dangerous it is. I mean, I know popcorn lung and all, but considering how many people have chain vaped it for how long... I'm amazed there aren't lawsuits already.

Lung damage generally doesn't happen overnight. Who knows how many cases of popcorn lung will pop up in 5 years...
 

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makes me wonder how dangerous it is. I mean, I know popcorn lung and all, but considering how many people have chain vaped it for how long... I'm amazed there aren't lawsuits already.

lawsuits? ... someone would have to actually develop popcorn lung from vaping to sue for it.

IMO ... I don't think we're going to find popcorn lung with vaping, until at least 20 years has passed ... more important, if ever.
 

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And diketone-free flavors CAN be found, if you look for them. Capella generally marks them with "v2" if the original had diketones; TFA sometimes releases old flavors with new names and diketone-free formulations.

No one really knows for sure EXACTLY how dangerous it may be to purposely inhale diketones; for myself, just knowing that the POTENTIAL is there for total lung destruction is more than sufficient to make me seek out flavors that contain NO diketones of any kind.

Andria
 

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Used to be diacetyl, a diketone, was in microwaved buttered popcorn, and is still in many, many things as it was and is considered safe to consume, but it turns out it isn't safe to *inhale*. There was a man who every day would eat a bag of buttered popcorn and inhale the bag for years, and ended up totally whacking his lungs; it scars them in ways that can't be healed or helped. He won a big lawsuit, especially after it came out that all these people in Asian factories were getting just as whacked out. They removed it from the buttered popcorn.

It really does make things very creamy & buttery in vapes, but obviously it's pretty messed up to be vaping it (to each their own), and once it came out that it was in a bunch of eliquids and flavorings used, many yanked them and retooled their flavors. Of course, it turned out that a lot of the flavors they used were still in the diketone family and there was little reason not to think they'd act on the lungs in the same way. Flavor sellers have slowly gotten better at saying what is in their flavorings, and liquid shops have gotten better about eschewing them as their customers hear about it or at the very least stating if it contains them.
 

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I can't speak to those vendors, as I've yet to try or review them. I don't feel like I've fully made my mind up yet about vendors including them, but I have when it comes to a lack of disclosure. Not all vendors are as plugged into this stuff, but once they're educated and informed, if they aren't disclosing it they're sending a pretty clear signal about how they view their customers which would make me question other aspects of their judgement.
 
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