Just wondering if anyone is using anything besides AW batteries in their provari? I have some panasonic flat tops, trustfire button tops, Efest button tops, and a few others. I know it says on the website basically to only use AW.
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I've been using Efest batteries, 3 of them in rotation, with no issues for 7 months. They will typically last me 6-8 hours.
It is up to you whether you want to use anything other than exactly what the manufacturer recommends. However, I use any batteries I want as long as they are a brand that I trust and have a sufficient drain rating. The flat tops will not work at all without modifications to either your provari or the battery. The contact is recessed.
flat tops are a no go. but any button top high drain should work. AW has set the basic standard for batteries and a company like provape that makes one the best mods only recommends using the AW brand. "why put regular gas in a ferrari" type of mentality.
I dont mind efest, but i use all AW. i am looking into the orbtronics batteries though.
I dont mind efest, but i use all AW. i am looking into the orbtronics batteries though.
Thanks for all your replies guys...figure did ask and get one knowledge. I thought it would be on to use any button top, but just wanted to make sure. I just got the provari bought a week ago and I only bought 1-18490 and 1-18650 because the bill was starting to get up there!
Again thanks for your time everyone.
Bigbaby I don't even want to get into doing any kind of mods to my mod!
Again thanks for your time everyone.
Bigbaby I don't even want to get into doing any kind of mods to my mod!
I use a Mixture of AW IMR's and AW IC's. They Both work Fine for me. And I have had Zero Problems.
But,
The IC's work fine for me because of the Amps I pull from them is within the Rating of the Battery. Someone Else might be using a Provari and is drawing More Amps than an AW IC battery can Handle. So for them, A Higher "C" Rated Battery is what they should be using.
If someone tells you that they uses Brand "X" Battery, Model "Bla-Bla-Bla" but doesn't tell you the Typical Amps they are asking the Battery to provide, then you don't really know much.
And if someone doesn't know the Amps that YOU will want the Battery to provide with YOU'R setup, then Any Recommendation of a Battery Type isn't very Meaningful.
General Rule of Thumb for VVPV Batteries: If you are Unsure of what you are going to Ask a VVPV Battery to do, Buy a IMR Battery with the Highest "C" Rating for any given mAh.
In my opinion the battery should always be matched to the max output of the mod. Even if we knew that he was a low amp vapor at this time its still a bad idea to recommend a low drain ICR. We don't know what kind of delivery devices he might grab in the future that might need the higher draw a IMR can provide. If he got something that needed high power and turned it up and it shut off do to tripping the amp limit of an ICR it would probably scare someone thinking they ruined there $200 mod. Its just better to stick to battery's that can run the max draw on your mod IMHO. It also could be dangerous if the circuit breaker in a ICR fails to trip in an over draw situation.
I'm Not Recommending the Use of Any Battery to the OP.
How could I?
I have No Clue what his setup is or what Volts he wants to set his VVPV to.
I use button top Panasonic's, Aw and efest list in the order of what I like the best
Just remember that there is a difference between "will work", and "will work properly".
The irony is that AW does not make batteries, they just test batteries, and place their label only on those that meet their specifications. The rest get sold under different brand names.
The irony is that AW does not make batteries, they just test batteries, and place their label only on those that meet their specifications. The rest get sold under different brand names.
Your right I apologize. I got a totally different meaning to your post the first time I read it. I guess I should stay off the forums until I am fully awake. I guess the point I was making is still valid, It just shouldn't have been sent in your direction.
For the most part I think we should try and stay away from ICR battery's as much as possible as when they fail they do so in such a flame filled way. Wouldn't want that right next to my face when it goes off. IMR battery's are just much safer chemistry and that is important in something that spends so much time close you my face anyways. I guess I just worry about people.
i used AW exclusively for my 'vari up until a few months ago. i scored an EFest button-top IMR 18490 to increase my batt stash. i cant tell the difference between batt life (if there even is any).
the C-Rating is different however. i emailed EFest for the c-rating on the 18490 and 18350s- they said that theyre both 10C. so, using the formula (mah x C-Rating / 1000) the 18490 can pull 11A safely. i tend to think they might over-inflate the mah or c-rating so i wont go nearly that high. not that i could on the provari anyway, because the provari's switch is limited to 3.5A.
the max amps an AW 18490 can handle per Lighthound is 15A, putting the C-Rating at approx 13.6, but i think Lighthound rounds down the max Amps, so the C-rating is likely technically a tad higher.
the C-Rating is different however. i emailed EFest for the c-rating on the 18490 and 18350s- they said that theyre both 10C. so, using the formula (mah x C-Rating / 1000) the 18490 can pull 11A safely. i tend to think they might over-inflate the mah or c-rating so i wont go nearly that high. not that i could on the provari anyway, because the provari's switch is limited to 3.5A.
the max amps an AW 18490 can handle per Lighthound is 15A, putting the C-Rating at approx 13.6, but i think Lighthound rounds down the max Amps, so the C-rating is likely technically a tad higher.
This is a Very Good Point.
Your right I apologize. I got a totally different meaning to your post the first time I read it. I guess I should stay off the forums until I am fully awake. I guess the point I was making is still valid, It just shouldn't have been sent in your direction.
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No Apology Needed.
And I'm with you in that using AW IMR's, or Any Quality IMR, is a Good Choice.
I think all I was trying to point out is that someone who pulls say 1.7 amps has a Different set of Needs than someone who wants to draw say 5 Amps.
Example: If a person runs their Provari at 3.9 volts using a 2000 mAh Battery with a 2.8 ohm Clearo, what is the Minimum "C" their battery should have?
No Apology Needed.
And I'm with you in that using AW IMR's, or Any Quality IMR, is a Good Choice.
I think all I was trying to point out is that someone who pulls say 1.7 amps has a Different set of Needs than someone who wants to draw say 5 Amps.
Example: If a person runs their Provari at 3.9 volts using a 2000 mAh Battery with a 2.8 ohm Clearo, what is the Minimum "C" their battery should have?
I guess my point is that you should ignore what your current needs are from the battery and use one that will allow you to use the max amps the device is capable of. The provari has a 3.5A switch so you should use a battery that has at least 4A max discharge to give yourself a little wiggle room. You never know when you might want to bump up that voltage or when it might get set wrong on accident and its never a good idea to push these battery's past their limit. The C rating needed for 4A is really going to depend on the size of battery you plan to use.
That is a Good Point.
Future Flexibility is a Consideration.
So what would be the Minimum "C" needed for 4 Amp Discharge for say a 2000mAh Battery?
My point is that the minimum C rating should be figured at double the amps used. So in your example you would want the minimum C rating for 8 amps with a 2,000mAh battery. Otherwise premature failure will become the norm.
(engineering 101)
(engineering 101)
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Max discharge = mAh * C
So a 2000mAh battery with a 2c rating would be 4000mA max discharge (or 4A). so say a 700mAh 18350 would need a battery with a 5.8c rating.
Seems like Doubling the Amps is More than Enough of a Safety Margin. Especially if a Mod will Shut Down at 3.5 Amps or so.
Yeah... Sounds like a 2C 2000mAh Battery would work fine If the Mod shuts down at 3.5 amps.
And if I could have a Battery with More mAh, it would be a Lower Minimum C. I don't have my AW IC with me right now, but when I get home I'll check the mAh on them. I think they are Higher than 2,000 mAh.
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