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I have a bunch of Panasonic CGR18650CH flattops coming in (the grey jackets), which I intend to use in some of my mechs, but regarding the ProVari ... I thought I had at one time seen a small disc of PCB material with a battery-button-sized brass post through the center; this was supposed to sit on top of a flattop and make a "button top" for it. The thing was very similar in appearance to a fuse. Has anyone seen this? I have long since lost the link ... :blink:

I know you are supposed to be able to use small disc magnets to add a button to a flattop, but I don't like that idea. One good sideways impact and the magnet can slip out of position and potentially short. Yes, I know the ProVari has short protection, but why push it? :laugh:
 

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    I have a bunch of Panasonic CGR18650CH flattops coming in (the grey jackets), which I intend to use in some of my mechs, but regarding the ProVari ... I thought I had at one time seen a small disc of PCB material with a battery-button-sized brass post through the center; this was supposed to sit on top of a flattop and make a "button top" for it. The thing was very similar in appearance to a fuse. Has anyone seen this? I have long since lost the link ... :blink:

    I know you are supposed to be able to use small disc magnets to add a button to a flattop, but I don't like that idea. One good sideways impact and the magnet can slip out of position and potentially short. Yes, I know the ProVari has short protection, but why push it? :laugh:

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    Never use magnets with your batteries. This is very dangerous, and will void the warranty.

    So much for that idea.
    The positive contact inside the provari is recessed so that if a battery is put in backward it won't make contact. The chances of having a magnet off center on top of a battery would make their use dangerous to say the least.
     
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    I use a Mixture of AW IMR's and AW IC's. They Both work Fine for me. And I have had Zero Problems.

    But,

    The IC's work fine for me because of the Amps I pull from them is within the Rating of the Battery. Someone Else might be using a Provari and is drawing More Amps than an AW IC battery can Handle. So for them, A Higher "C" Rated Battery is what they should be using.

    If someone tells you that they uses Brand "X" Battery, Model "Bla-Bla-Bla" but doesn't tell you the Typical Amps they are asking the Battery to provide, then you don't really know much.

    And if someone doesn't know the Amps that YOU will want the Battery to provide with YOU'R setup, then Any Recommendation of a Battery Type isn't very Meaningful.

    General Rule of Thumb for VVPV Batteries: If you are Unsure of what you are going to Ask a VVPV Battery to do, Buy a IMR Battery with the Highest "C" Rating for any given mAh.

    I had no idea about the battery ratings to be honest with you. Glad I asked this question I just learned something new!

    My setups are all over the place...I have some vivi's with atomizers ranging from 1.8-2.5...same with my Kangers and innokins...I don't have and ohm I like...I just turn up the volts! My usual vape volts are 3.7 - 4.6

    I just got an AGI RBA but I'm not going to use it till I get a mechanical.

    I have to do some research on batteries now since I feel I don't know what I'm doing!
     

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    I know you are supposed to be able to use small disc magnets to add a button to a flattop, but I don't like that idea. One good sideways impact and the magnet can slip out of position and potentially short. Yes, I know the ProVari has short protection, but why push it? :laugh:

    I don't like the Concept of using Magnets Except in a Dire Emergency.

    And I would never put a Magnet/Battery in my Provari/Provari's. My Vamo, Maybe. But only if I couldn't find my eGo Twist or Vision Spinner. And my Regular eGo's and 510's were all Dead.
     

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    Provapes website said don't do it! I'm staying away from magnets.

    On another note...I was just going over the posts in the 2nd page and I have alot to learn still. I had no idea there was formulas for batteries. I would think I need to learn about batteries properly before I buy a mechanical and build some sub-ohm rbas.
     

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    I had no idea about the battery ratings to be honest with you. Glad I asked this question I just learned something new!

    My setups are all over the place...I have some vivi's with atomizers ranging from 1.8-2.5...same with my Kangers and innokins...I don't have and ohm I like...I just turn up the volts! My usual vape volts are 3.7 - 4.6

    I just got an AGI RBA but I'm not going to use it till I get a mechanical.

    I have to do some research on batteries now since I feel I don't know what I'm doing!

    If you Vaping spans a Range of Ohm and Voltages, I would look at the Extreme End of what you do. Maximum Voltage at Minimum Resistance gives you the Max Amp Draw.

    It all gets back to Work/Power. And More Electrons move around when the Voltage is Higher and they have less to Run Into, Resistance.
     

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    Just wondering if anyone is using anything besides AW batteries in their provari? I have some panasonic flat tops, trustfire button tops, Efest button tops, and a few others. I know it says on the website basically to only use AW.

    I think it boils down to YMMV, as long as youre willing to accept any potential consequence of the (minimal chance) of damage to the provari, or damage caused to the battery. I doubt anything will happen if you use a different battery other than what the manufacturer specifies.

    However, my question is - whats the price different between the AW battery and any other battery that would fit the provari? at most you could be saving a couple dollars here and there. The way i see it is, if it only costs a few dollars more for what the manufacturer is specifying, might as well use what they recommend. Theres usually some kind of rhyme or reason to their recommendations.
     

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    However, my question is - whats the price different between the AW battery and any other battery that would fit the provari? at most you could be saving a couple dollars here and there. The way i see it is, if it only costs a few dollars more for what the manufacturer is specifying, might as well use what they recommend. Theres usually some kind of rhyme or reason to their recommendations.

    To me, it Wasn't about Money.

    I could careless about spending a couple of Bucks either way. I went from spending about $165/Month on Analogs. What is a few bucks on a Battery?

    No. For me it was about getting More mAh per Battery.

    When I first got my Provari, an AW 18490 IMR wouldn't last me all day. Close, but not all day. So I tried an AW 18500 IC because it had More mAh. It was enough to get me thru the day and back home.

    Now, mAh Isn't as important because I don't Chain Vape like I used to sometimes.
     

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    Only AW's go into my ProVari. They are not that expensive, easy to get, and take the worry out of the equation.

    I get mine here, they are pretty swift in shipping. Thanks for the tip on them Zapped!

    RTD Vapor AW Batteries

    You can roll others but provape says aw. But they need to update that as other batts have come out and they are also quality batts. IMO. Ymmv.
     

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    More than likely, the Panasonic and even the Efest button-top IMR batteries will be a safe alternative to the AW IMRs. Provape recommends the AW IMRs because they were the batteries used when designing the Provari after extensive testing of various battery types and brands. Provape has said that batteries that are of the same type (IMR button tops) and quality as the AW brand can be used, but they themselves have not officially tested the other brands to recommend them for use. Using magnets with flat-topped batteries will void the Provape warranty.

    Some information from Provape about batteries that is somewhat hard to find on the website is here: Frequently Asked Questions

    "Protected" Li Ion batteries are not recommended to be used in the Provari. They do not have the ability for higher drain situations such as higher voltages above a typical Li Ion battery's output (3.7 volts). Using a protected battery in the Provari at high voltage could stress the battery to the point of battery failure or a hard-short resulting in thermal runaway. This is why only high drain IMR batteries are recommended.
     
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