Provari or MVP?

[devauto]

Thanks guys for all the much needed information. Can anyone point me in the right direction on the best device to put on top of my mod. Right now I have a protank 2 which I'm not all that happy with. I also have some Iclear 16's that I've been using which seem to have better taste than the Protank 2 but they leak.

I'm a huge fan of the PT series tanks myself, but you can try the iClear 30/30s if you like the flavor out of the iClear 16s. You could also try the AnyVape Davide or the Aspire BDC (they use the same coil). The difference is the iClear is a "top coil" design and the Davide is a "bottom coil" design. I am testing a Davide right now, and I really like the flavor, it seems a little cleaner than my Protank 2s ... As always ... YMMV!

HTH.

 

[Thunderball]

Thanks guys for all the much needed information. Can anyone point me in the right direction on the best device to put on top of my mod. Right now I have a protank 2 which I'm not all that happy with. I also have some Iclear 16's that I've been using which seem to have better taste than the Protank 2 but they leak.

Any Kayfun/Kayfun lite/Kayfun clone/Russian or any of these originals or clone is the best topper out there....Superior taste/vapor production...............IMHO. A 30.00 dollar one is as good as a 175.00 dollar Kayfun type topper.

Quit fooling around and get to ordering. You've been vaping long enough to know to go to the higher level of vaping. Just do it.

 

[elfy]

One thing: (if you havent done this) I suggest learning how to rebuild Protank heads/coils/wicks...the quality of vape is much better no matter what batt/mod/vv is udner it...way better than any stock Kanger head's vapor imo.

MVP2 is nice, but it can be fragile - might not take a drop onto nice hard concrete etc. I like the Innokin SVD since its a little more for one, but you can swap out the batts...but its basically same features as MVP.

Provari? Oh its nice. But its spendy. For the same price you could get a Vapor Shark - if you can find one..its a DNA20 mod and its nice imo.

So..me, yah..im on the fence on a lot of these mods myself. But for the down n dirty w/ replaceable batts? An Innokin SVD.

 

[tj99959]

Yes you did mention made in the USA. The greatest country on earth. The only problem is the devise you posted your comment with isn't made in the USA. Sad but so true.

Ah-OK .............

ProVape is proud to be the industry’s leading designer, manufacturer, and direct retailer of the highest quality, US-made electronic cigarettes. When you buy electronic cigarettes from ProVape, you can be assured you are getting one of the most user-friendly smokeless cigarettes available.

 

[Ref Minor]

Ah-OK .............

Wow, Are Provape assuring people that their computers are made in the USA?

 

[yorkiegirl]

Any Kayfun/Kayfun lite/Kayfun clone/Russian or any of these originals or clone is the best topper out there....Superior taste/vapor production...............IMHO. A 30.00 dollar one is as good as a 175.00 dollar Kayfun type topper.

Quit fooling around and get to ordering. You've been vaping long enough to know to go to the higher level of vaping. Just do it.

I haven't been vaping all that long. I quit all together and just started back about 2 months ago and it's a whole new world. The Provari had just come out when I quit vaping.

 

[Ozwald]

Another benefit to the Provari is a high resale value if you quit vaping again. Or you could always tuck it away in a drawer in case you have another stressful emergency. Just a thought.

For tanks, cartotanks like an IBT are good quality & inexpensive. I like the Iken cartos in mine. If you want to go the RBA route, the KFL+ is an excellent choice. It just depends if you want to just pop one on the top & go, or if you'd like something that you don't mind making a coil/wick for, but will last a long time with minimal expense in upkeep.

 

[Mark Anthony]

You can't go wrong with either.

I would say, purchase the MVP first. It produces a high quality vape and is well built and best of all, inexpensive. If you wear your MVP out, you're vested, then purchase the ProVari. Then purchase another MVP to bring with you where you wouldn't want to take your ProVari out of fear of losing it.

This exactly ^^^^^

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I'm completely new to the scene, so I'm sure my opinion isn't worth much, but I'd save the money and buy the MVP 2. I'm extremely happy with mine. I tend to chain vape, and the charge can last me two day. As for the consistency, I've read that the way power is regulated is the same between the Provari and the MVP. Someone... Pbusardo I think? tested the power on both the MVP and the Provari. Instead of cycling up and down as most variable voltage devices do, both the MVP and the Provari stay level at the voltage you select. The MVP 2 also has the added bonus of setting the wattage. It won't matter what the coils read in as. You set the wattage to whatever you prefer (I set it according to the what the juice I'm using tastes best as) and if you need to change coils, there's no other buttons to push. The MVP 2 will adjust itself. So... almost the same consistent power as the Provari, a set it and forget it feature, long lasting charge and acts as a passthrough just in case... Use the money you'de have spent on the Provari on various toppers to find the one you prefer for taste.

 

[Caridwen]

If you want moderate priced box mod, go for the MVP
If you want high end tube mod, go for the Provari.

One isn't going to help you quit smoking and the other isn't. Both perform well for what they are.

 

[tj99959]

Wow, Are Provape assuring people that their computers are made in the USA?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provape/289525-provari-made-usa.html

 

[Lombaowski]

I'd say just go for the provari if your looking for quality. Although this is not really comparing apples to apples. You will spend more money after the provari because you need quality batteries and charger. At least if your goal is long term you can replace the batteries in a provari and can't on the MVP, once it's dead throw it away. Even though the mvp has excellent battery life and can be used as a pass through with the provari you can just swap batts and go. They are both built well and I have dropped both before and there fine. You will not notice a difference in the vape however, I can't anyways.

I've heard this logic a lot around here and I simply don't agree with it. I have two MVPs, they cost a combined $95. An MVP charge lasts me about two full days so that is 3.5 charges a week, meaning I'm going to probably get at least two years out of an MVP. How many years would it take for MVP costs to catch ProVari costs? How many MVPs can you buy in five years for the same price as a ProVari, batteries, chargers, etc? Five or six of them? Seems like by that time vaping technology would make the MVP 7.0 a better buy than the ProVari you bought five years back.

That's not saying I wouldn't get a ProVari, because I certainly would. I would just use reasons such as form factor, dependability, and reputation as reasons to buy a ProVari over XYZ mod.

 

[jnnfrlsw]

Simply based on the fact that you have already progressed from the ego to box mod to k100 and are still looking to improve your vaping I would invest in the provari. They have a warranty, very durable, great resale value and basically provide the user with one fine vape.

Now, if your plan is to only vape for a short while and you don't have the need to vape above 5v, then the MVP may be a better choice.

The topper you select will be the thing that really ups your vaping experience. I have tried all the clearomizer types (evod,protank,davide ...) and they didn't cut it for me. Personally, I only use a carto/tank set up. IBT tank with boge cartos.

Good luck with whatever device you select.

 

[p.opus]

For me, it boils down to durability. The Provari wins hands down as it is one of the best constructed units made. There is no arguement there. Most manufacturers will not warranty their devices over 90 days let alone a year. And you can purchase an additional year.

That means when you buy a Provari, you can have 2 years of warranty coverage. NO ONE does this. and it should not be overlooked.

However, the main barrier to entry is cost. Most people have an issue laying close to two Benjamin's on something they may eventually lose or stop using.

The MVP 2.0 is a disposable device...(just like an I-phone). In the past, disposable meant months. A standard Ego-T battery must be charged at least once a day some people charged them more often than that. A low capacity battery, charged multiple times a day will last a very short time. 300 charge cycles goes pretty fast when you are charging twice a day.

The MVP 2.0 and it's 2600mAh battery only needs to be charged once every two days. If you have two MVP's then you can extend the time between charging each one to once every 4 days. This now makes the unit a little "less" disposable. 300 charges every 4 days equates to 1200 days or almost 4 years. The characteristics of Li-Ion will reduce its capacity by 40% over that time just due to the natural degradation of LiIon capacity of approx 10% per year over time.

That's why I support a combination of the two. If you buy an MVP2 now. For forty bucks, you will have an APV that should last well over a year before you need to think about replacing it. By that time, you will have done one of three things.

1. Quit smoking and quit vaping
2. Quit smoking and continue vaping.
3. Start smoking and quit vaping.

If you are in the "Quit smoking and continue vaping" camp, then you can invest in a product like the provari which will provide years and years of service without any additional cost short of replacing the batteries as they wear out. If you are in any of the other two camps, then the MVP has served it's purpose and you don't have to worry about spending a couple hundred dollars on something that you no longer use.

Of course a third option is order a used ProVari. Lower cost, and you know they last......

 

[yorkiegirl]

After talking to hubby, I bit the bullet and ordered the ProVari. I got the satin silver. He made a good point. He said it's a hobby for you and it keeps you from smoking cigarettes. He said you didn't second guess getting an Iphone did you? I hope I will be happy with this purchase. I'm very excited. Now to work on the topper. I'm one step closer.....

 

[p.opus]

I have two MVPs, they cost a combined $95. An MVP charge lasts me about two full days so that is 3.5 charges a week, meaning I'm going to probably get at least two years out of an MVP.

Your math is a bit off, 3.5 charges a week is based if you have one MVP you use, and the other MVP that sits in a drawer doing nothing.

If you rotate between the two, you are at about 1.75 charges a week on each one. That's 171 weeks, or just over 3 years.

Keeping the second MVP as a "spare" doing nothing doesn't help you. LiIon batteries lose 10% of their capacity per year. So after 2 years, the 2600 mAh battery will be down to about 2080mAh, and after three years, 1820mAh.

That's why I rotate between two batteries. I can get use out of both of them early in their lifespan and effectively lengthen their life by charging each one less often.

 

[tj99959]

After talking to hubby, I bit the bullet and ordered the ProVari. I got the satin silver. He made a good point. He said it's a hobby for you and it keeps you from smoking cigarettes. He said you didn't second guess getting an Iphone did you? I hope I will be happy with this purchase. I'm very excited. Now to work on the topper. I'm one step closer.....

The Provari, like most other PV's, does not restrict you to just one type of topper. Enjoy them all I say ........ enjoy them all.

 

[r77r7r]

Can ECF just "sticky" a "Provari vs anything" battle thread? Ya know, keep all this in one place, like the Colosseum in Rome?

Check your dignity at the door before entering, please.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Kayfun for the top!!! Congrats on your purchase, you won't regret it!

 

[Lombaowski]

Your math is a bit off, 3.5 charges a week is based if you have one MVP you use, and the other MVP that sits in a drawer doing nothing.

If you rotate between the two, you are at about 1.75 charges a week on each one. That's 171 weeks, or just over 3 years.

Keeping the second MVP as a "spare" doing nothing doesn't help you. LiIon batteries lose 10% of their capacity per year. So after 2 years, the 2600 mAh battery will be down to about 2080mAh, and after three years, 1820mAh.

That's why I rotate between two batteries. I can get use out of both of them early in their lifespan and effectively lengthen their life by charging each one less often.

Good catch, I didn't really think that one through. I do exactly what you suggest though, I rotate the MVPs.