Provari OR Really good Mech mod???????

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The Ocelot

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what worries ME about the REO (and it might not even be worth worrying about),,,,,,,

how do you know how much to sqeeze the thing?

and what do you use on top? you can't use a tank,,,,,,,right??? (forgive me, obviously a noob about REOs),,,,,,,,,a carto?????? does it get wet enough with a squeeze???????

I use a dripping atty - it's like dripping upside down. Some people use cartos, but I didn't care for them. It takes a little practice to get the squonk right. I'm still working on it. There a little recessed area where the liquid comes up and it sucks the excess liquid back into the bottle.
 

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With a carto, you'll probably want to do a "blind squonk" to get the upper filler material wet. That's basically sipping on the drip tip while squeezing (squonking) the bottle (not pressing the fire button). This isn't needed with a disposable dripping atty, which doesn't have it. As The Ocelot says, bottom feeding is like dripping upside down. If you haven't tried dripping on your current mod, I recommend you do.
 

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With a carto, you'll probably want to do a "blind squonk" to get the upper filler material wet. That's basically sipping on the drip tip while squeezing (squonking) the bottle (not pressing the fire button). This isn't needed with a disposable atty, which doesn't have it.

I do that anyway - force of habit from direct dripping - to make sure it has enough in it. I blind squonked from the beginning, since I can't see the liquid without my glasses.
 

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I'd go with a Provari. As someone said (and if you can reasonably afford one), everyone should have one. It will be the most consist, dependable, predictable, reliable, and repairable variable voltage device you can find. You can put nearly any juice delivery device on it and it will work (eGo adaptor required for ego-thread devices; but really, on a Provari?).

As long as you own it, Provape will service it. No China-made device will be able to offer that. I've never understood why some Provari owners reserve their Provari for home. They are built like a tank. A drop on tile will break the tile before breaking a Provari. The only thing that I've read that broke a Provari was a lawn mower.

Provari's are always available onsite, received 3 - 4 days after order. Won't get that with a high end mechanical - get on the waiting list that can take months. Repairs (unlikely need) take about a week.

If you're interested in trying a bottom feeder like a Reo, you can first try the poor man's Reo - a Vapage VMod. Half the price of a Reo and my guess works just as well. Not made from a block of solid steel, but do you really need that? Mine uses an AW 18650 IMR 2000mAh battery that lasts me nearly 2 days and has a 9 ml juice tank that often lasts me three. Size of a slim pack of cigarettes, so is pocket-worthy. I use a drip atomizer in mine. It did take a week or so to get the right "squonk" to feed the atty, but it's second nature now. You can also change the look by using different shell cases, like my faux wood.

Still prefer my Mini Provari for out-and-about use. ;) As with ANY mechanical mod, the VMod will have the inevitable battery drop off as the battery depletes. Definitely notice the difference in vape quality when you put in a fresh charged battery. You won't get that with a Provari - same vape from beginning to end of the battery.

Mini Provari 2.jpg
 
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With a carto, you'll probably want to do a "blind squonk" to get the upper filler material wet. That's basically sipping on the drip tip while squeezing (squonking) the bottle (not pressing the fire button). This isn't needed with a disposable dripping atty, which doesn't have it. As The Ocelot says, bottom feeding is like dripping upside down. If you haven't tried dripping on your current mod, I recommend you do.

The Phidiae call that "Feed and Fire." ;)
 

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If you're interested in trying a bottom feeder like a Reo, you can first try the poor man's Reo - a Vapage VMod. Half the price of a Reo and my guess works just as well. Not made from a block of solid steel, but do you really need that?

{cough} Just like a Vamo works as well as a ProVari...
 

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I won't address the Provari part, but will address these:

If you're interested in trying a bottom feeder like a Reo, you can first try the poor man's Reo - a Vapage VMod. Half the price of a Reo and my guess works just as well.

About as well as a VAMO compared to a Provari… except you don't have to invert the REO to squonk it.

[edit: looks like The Ocelot beat me to it!] ;)

Not made from a block of solid steel, but do you really need that?

If you don't need the ruggedness, then why buy a Provari? ;) (and it's a solid block of aluminum on the REO)

Mine uses an AW 18650 IMR 2000mAh battery that lasts me nearly 2 days

I vape a lot more and the same lasts me one day.

and has a 9 ml juice tank that often lasts me three.

As your own numbers show, 6 ml is a good match for an 18650. That's why the REO doesn't have you carrying more.

Size of a slim pack of cigarettes, so is pocket-worthy. I use a drip atomizer in mine. It did take a week or so to get the right "squonk" to feed the atty, but it's second nature now. You can also change the look by using different shell cases, like my faux wood…Still prefer my Mini Provari for out-and-about use. ;)

To each, his/her own. But somehow, Provari and fake wood just don't go together. ;)

As with ANY mechanical mod, the VMod will have the inevitable battery drop off as the battery depletes. Definitely notice the difference in vape quality when you put in a fresh charged battery.

So you hit a little longer as the battery voltage falls and typically replace it when it gets down to about 1/2 charge. With a pure mech, you're using the battery in the top half of its charge, where it's the strongest.

You won't get that with a Provari - same vape from beginning to end of the battery.

Same with her VAMO, most other regulated mods, or a mech with a kick. The main difference between these and a pure mech is that as the battery gets weaker, they work it harder to maintain the same voltage… in some cases drawing as much current from the battery at its weakest as a higher ohm sub-ohm coil does to a battery at its strongest. The price of level coil voltage in the face of declining battery voltage is increased battery current.

There's no free lunch. If you want a Provari, a VAMO isn't it. If you want a REO, a VMod isn't it. If you want level voltage, you'll pay for that too.
 
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I have been wondering the same thing, just what is so good about the dna 20? from what I have read about it it will not really provide a better vape.


Aside from higher watts capability (not interested) and the OLED screen (again, not interested), care to explain why in detail? :confused:
 

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If you're interested in trying a bottom feeder like a Reo, you can first try the poor man's Reo - a Vapage VMod. Half the price of a Reo and my guess works just as well. Not made from a block of solid steel, but do you really need that? Mine uses an AW 18650 IMR 2000mAh battery that lasts me nearly 2 days and has a 9 ml juice tank that often lasts me three. Size of a slim pack of cigarettes, so is pocket-worthy. I use a drip atomizer in mine. It did take a week or so to get the right "squonk" to feed the atty, but it's second nature now. You can also change the look by using different shell cases, like my faux wood.

Sorry Bad... I have 2 VMod's (2.0 & XL) in my junk-drawer with broken plastic frames.. They feed nothing like a REO, and to me, aren't even worth the "special" $50.00 price for the XL offered by Vapage at times. The REO is the "ProVari" of BF mods IMO.. ;) Also like the ProVari, the REO is a very solid investment if you enjoy BF mods.

Can't go wrong with either the REO or ProVari, although I must say I wasn't impressed for long with the VV Grand. I don't like stacking batteries, don't care for the Buzz Pro electronics, and the wheel adjustment.
 

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does the REO grand VV use stacking batteries?

Hm,,,,,,,,I don't want to stack, at least not yet,,,,,,I know enough to be dangerous and no more,,,,,,,,

that limits me to the regular REO grand then.

Yes.. 2 18350's. It's not really a safety issue, the electronics offer protection... More of having to mark the batteries and keep them rotated. The batteries often do not stay in place when the mod is jarred, or from the way the top firing button presses down on them. The single battery REO's are great though.. I've had about all of the better bottom-feeders to know.. ;)
 

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rogergendron1 said:
I hate the provari yes I have owned one and I hated it
It only has one button and you have to click it a hundred friggin times to do anything lol and the display looks like it came from a 80s kids toy I mean realy realy for that much money why am I getting sutch a cheap ... oled display ? It cant even display numbers and letters properly. Its 2013 poeple why cant I have a nice display that I can actualy read like the dna 20 has ? The display on the provari is just a cheap 9$ radioshack special litteraly !
Just to clarify, unless things have drastically changed the Provari uses a 7 Segment LED screen not OLED.

Please correct me if I'm wrong again LOL
 
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