Provari P3 vs. MVP 20W?

[medic181075]

I feel a bit stupid even asking this question, but the Kanger Subtank Mini has changed the way I vape. I have graduated from ego style tanks to RBAs. I have to admit that this has made vaping so much more enjoyable. My sweet spot seems to be somewhere around the 16-19 watt area, so the MVP 20W is a great little box. I have absolutely no complaints. I would happily suggest it to anybody who is looking to vape at less than 20 watts.

So now, on to the question. The Subtank changed me. I hear all of this talk about how great the Provari line is. Can it change me to? Can it increase my vaping pleasure? A big plus for me is the fact that it is made in the USA. That is a bit rare these days. Even so, is it good enough to justify the cost of six MVP 20W boxes? I know it is durable, but the MVP is nothing to laugh at in that department.

Also, how is the battery life of an 18650 in a P3 vs. the MVP 20W?

For the record, I really want a P3. I'm just not sure why.

 

[Efektt]

If i were you, I would be looking at 50 watt mods. You want something that will grow with you. You will most likely want more power in a few months.

 

[Evi|grin]

Look at the new VaporShark DNA 40. Its just under $160 IIRC. The rDNA 40 version is just under $190 and has a user replaceable battery. IMO both are a way better value than a Provari.

Vapor Shark DNA (40W Version) + FREE 30 ML E-Liquid - Advanced

 

[pufZeppelin]

I sure like those vaporsharks too
- https://www.vaporshark.com/rdna


and these ain't ½ bad neither
- http://www.vapinart.com/cart/Vapor-Flask-Dna-40-Black-P1444.aspx
- Vaperev Shop - Vapor Flask - Variable Voltage/Wattage - Devices


then another 20w stick mod with USA guts...
http://www.vaporbeast.com/innokin-itaste-svd-2-0.html





jus so many dang choices...

 

[Evi|grin]

The SX Mini from Yihi appears to be outstanding too and soon they will have the temp control model available. Considering all the features, i would gladly spend upto $200 if my vaping budget allowed it. I want excellent build quality and CS too though for that kind of money.

The Provari certainly includes top notch customer service and repair work. I assume Vaporshark is not far behind them in this regard. I just like all the added features and extra watts. If i was looking at a mod that is similar to a Provari in design (tube mod) and power limits, it would be a SVD v2 for sure.

 

[TorontoOntario]

I *PERSONALLY* think the Provari is outdated. With the new clearos coming out *most* new vapers want to be able to put out more clouds AND have better flavor then a Provari and a carto-tank or Aspires old style of clearos etc can put out. I *never* vape at lower then 25w and that is extremely low for me and I only do it on my sub-tank. I regularly vape my Lemo at 40w or one of my drippers between 60-120w. I think the Provari is an amazing PV please do not get me wrong and Provape is one hell of a company but for me right now I would take a VS DNA40 device for around the same price. If you are a vaper who loves the sub-tank and uses it regularly I think you should be saving for a DNA40 device as we speak. Kanger is dropping 1.5ohm Ni temp-control heads for the sub-tank soon-end of discussion. Put those in your sub-tank toss it on a DNA40 mod and turn the wattage up to 30-40w and its going to be an outstanding vape. I *KNOW* this will be an outstanding vape because I build with Ni currently and use temp control currently with my Lemos and some of my lower watt drippers on my Flask and rDNA and it is outstanding. I think a better mod can be had for the price then a Provari currently. If Provape dropped a DNA40 boxmod I would buy it instantly.

 

[SunshinePete]

Others are probably more sensible than me, but I say if you want and can afford a Provari then get one. Who knows, maybe the product will be dropped and you'll never again be able to buy a new one, and as for the more contemporary designs people mention, they'll be stale news soon enough.

 

[TorontoOntario]

Others are probably more sensible than me, but I say if you want and can afford a Provari then get one. Who knows, maybe the product will be dropped and you'll never again be able to buy a new one, and as for the more contemporary designs people mention, they'll be stale news soon enough.

I own three Provaris. Two regular v 2.5s and a mini. I would rather (although I don't) vape an I-Stick30 then any of them JUST because of the additional wattage. I cant see myself ever powering a topper at less then 25w but everyone is different. I also personally like the box design more, its shorter and IMO nicer then holding a long tube. At one point I could *never* see myself vapeing anything other then a Provari, then I tried a Sig 100w with an authentic tugboat v2 at .15 ohms and it was over. I never looked at my Provari the same. I mostly vape my Lemo on a Flask at 40w, that's my device that gets used the most. The Provari simply *can not* offer me enough power. The thing is, I would think any buyer would want a device that they can grow with along there journey. If you get a good dual-battery 100w device from the get-go you will never *need* anything else besides a few good toppers, batteries, a charger and of course juice. Some people (like myself) buy more and more and look at this as a hobby but you can vape a Sig100 or IPV3 at 15w and get crazy battery life but you *can not* put a sub-ohm topper on a Provari and crank the power.

 

[Blkboyan]

I have Provari P3 but after I got the sigelei 100W plus. My P3 collect dust now.

 

[K_Tech]

If you can work it into your budget AND if you believe it will suit your vaping needs, buy one. I have a V2 and a P3, but they are not for everyone, and certainly not for all atomizer setups. Within its operating envelope, its performance is excellent.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I'd never try to steer anyone away from a ProVari. I don't use them anymore but I've never owned a more reliable, trouble free device. I used them day in and day out for close to 2 years and never had one break. I demolish buildings for a living and dropped one out of a 5th floor window. The kayfun didn't quite survive but the provari did. If it does what you need a mod to do, you'll have a very hard time finding a better one.

 

[TorontoOntario]

I'd never try to steer anyone away from a ProVari. I don't use them anymore but I've never owned a more reliable, trouble free device. I used them day in and day out for close to 2 years and never had one break. I demolish buildings for a living and dropped one out of a 5th floor window. The kayfun didn't quite survive but the provari did. If it does what you need a mod to do, you'll have a very hard time finding a better one.

Yes this is exactly how I feel. If its all you need you WONT find better. And isn't that funny, I dropped mine off a 30 foot ladder with a Kayfun on top as while. The ProVari was picked up, I added my backup Kayfun right then and there and climbed back up the ladder to finish caulking the window I was working on. lol

 

[ignotus]

I have a P3 and it is a very high quality device. In terms of power it brings up the lower end in my mod collection, behind 40 watt and 60 watt devices.

It makes a good mobile device, fitting very well in the front pocket, but I only choose it when going out for a short time. The reason? Because I don't like the 18650 configuration, being too long, and 18490s & 350s just don't have the capacity. As a result, I've come to prefer my box mods - not because of the power, but because the chip sits beside the battery rather than on top, so what would be length becomes width instead.

 

[SunshinePete]

I own three Provaris. Two regular v 2.5s and a mini. I would rather (although I don't) vape an I-Stick30 then any of them JUST because of the additional wattage. I cant see myself ever powering a topper at less then 25w but everyone is different. I also personally like the box design more, its shorter and IMO nicer then holding a long tube. At one point I could *never* see myself vapeing anything other then a Provari, then I tried a Sig 100w with an authentic tugboat v2 at .15 ohms and it was over. I never looked at my Provari the same. I mostly vape my Lemo on a Flask at 40w, that's my device that gets used the most. The Provari simply *can not* offer me enough power. The thing is, I would think any buyer would want a device that they can grow with along there journey. If you get a good dual-battery 100w device from the get-go you will never *need* anything else besides a few good toppers, batteries, a charger and of course juice. Some people (like myself) buy more and more and look at this as a hobby but you can vape a Sig100 or IPV3 at 15w and get crazy battery life but you *can not* put a sub-ohm topper on a Provari and crank the power.

OK, fair enough. My perspective was that the OP clearly fancies a Provari, rather like a lot of older guys get a yen for a motorbike, even though they're still going to drive around in a car. Pride of ownership, I guess.

 

[serenity21899]

If you are using the .5Ω coil on your subtank, you won't be able to fire it on either the P3 or the MVP. In that case I would look at something else with more wattage.

If you are using the 1.2Ω coil either one will work. Do you prefer box mods or tube mods? The P3 has a year warranty and will be fixed for a fee anytime after that. I really like my P3s and I don't really like the MVP, but that is my preference.

 

[medic181075]

Okay, you guys have helped me somewhat. I am now leaning hard towards a Vapor Shark rDNA 40. I would much prefer the 1 year warranty of the Provari, but everything else seems to be almost as good. That temp control thing looks interesting to say the least

Also, considering that I am already using the Subtank on an MVP 20W, I know that I will not be able to use the 0.5 coil. I always research the specs on any device before I ask somebody else for their opinion. I am preferring the RBA section of the Subtank. I doubt a 0.5 ohm coil would perform very on a battery that is limited to 20 watts.

 

[serenity21899]

Okay, you guys have helped me somewhat. I am now leaning hard towards a Vapor Shark rDNA 40. I would much prefer the 1 year warranty of the Provari, but everything else seems to be almost as good. That temp control thing looks interesting to say the least

Also, considering that I am already using the Subtank on an MVP 20W, I know that I will not be able to use the 0.5 coil. I always research the specs on any device before I ask somebody else for their opinion. I am preferring the RBA section of the Subtank. I doubt a 0.5 ohm coil would perform very on a battery that is limited to 20 watts.

The 0.5Ω won't fire on the ProVari P3, and I don't think it would on the MPV 20w, as well. To use the 0.5Ω coil, the suggestion is at least a 30w mod.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Both have a small window of capability and work very well for someone that stays in that small window. I would look to a DNA30/40 or SX330/350 chip. Many of them are much more cost effective and provide room for growth.

 

[medic181075]

The 0.5Ω won't fire on the ProVari P3, and I don't think it would on the MPV 20w, as well. To use the 0.5Ω coil, the suggestion is at least a 30w mod.

As I already stated, I am very aware of the specs of the two devices and the limitations created by those specs. I currently don't care about the 0.5 coil. I am using the RBA section with a 1.2 ohm coil. Specs don't always equal experience. The Subtank experience was a game changer for me. No list of specs could have told me that was going to happen. I assumed, based on the large following, that the Provari line must have a similar experience that is not listed in the specs. How else could you explain such a large following? Now, after I have been introduced to some other options, that following appears to be a cult following more than anything else. The Provari may have been top of the line at one time, but now they are top of the line for what the have to offer, which is a year or so behind the industry. It is unfortunate because quality always seems to take a back seat in fast progression markets. There is limited time for testing if you want to get your product out to market before it is obsolete. If Provape released a temperature controlled device tomorrow, I would buy it immediately. For now, the Provari is that beautiful wooden boat on the lake surrounded by cheaper fiberglass boats that are more user friendly.

 

[Garemlin]

I love my Provari V2.5. But after getting a Vaporshark rDNA 30 and now a Sigelei Mini 30w and IPV Mini 30w I barely touch it. The Provari just will not keep up with the builds I do for my other devices. And the higher amperage draw kills my 18490 batteries in short order.