Provari P3 really only 20w? A few questions about that.

[ionesh]

Hi all,

i had a P3 months back and i sold it because i thought that it only delivers 20w which where insufficient for me as i vape sub ohm (around .6 to .9) and at that coil values the 20w were insufficient for my needs.

Now i'm thinking about getting another one because lately i thought about the way i vape( still the same as above). When i deal with wattage, regardless of the mod(i have a dna200, vtc mini) and the coil,i always set the watts to get around 4.2 volts output to the coil.

Now as far as i know, the P3 is still the only high end mod out there doing variable wattage and voltage.

So in order to get a 4.2 volt to my coil (regardless of the resistance) the variable voltage of the P3 would help me here instead of variable wattage. Right?

I went to steam engine and did some simulation; i put in for the resistance 0.5 ohm (since that is the lowest resistance the P3 can work with) and i cranked the voltage up to 6 volts (the highest the P3 can go) and it gave me a total wattage of 72 watts.

So in practice i could put a .5 coil set my voltage to 4.2 and get 50watts, the same thing if the P3 would go to 50w in wattage mode, right?

So assuming all this is true, why so many people whine about the P3 max of 20w in power mode? All they have to do is set their P3 in voltage instead of wattage.

Am i loosing something here?

 

[Quantum Mech]

Dicodes Dani Extreme V2 - dicodes-mods.com

Wizard's Apprentice EVOLVED II

Now as far as i know, the P3 is still the only high end mod out there doing variable wattage and voltage.

 

[ionesh]

Thanks, but i do know those mods. I own the Dani v2. My question is about the P3, is it such a big deal that it's max 20w considering it has variable voltage? (the dani v2 and the evolved do not)

 

[Quantum Mech]

Thanks, but i do know those mods. I own the Dani v2. My question is about the P3, is it such a big deal that it's max 20w considering it has variable voltage? (the dani v2 and the evolved do not)

Variable wattage is variable voltage but it does the maths for you

The P3 will not give you 72w to a 0.5ohm coil

It will limit the voltage to meet 20w

 

[suprtrkr]

I don't know about the Provari, but my understanding is it is limited to 20 watts. But if you want a high quality VV mod that will go higher, look at a Hexohm.

 

[ionesh]

i know it's limited in wattage mode but my question is it limited in voltage mode? i mean if i put a .5 coil and set it to 4.2 volts, will it vape the same as if the coil was on another mod in vw at 35watts? (simulation on steam engine.org)

 

[anavidfan]

Im no expert at the numbers and it seems you are not getting the answer you are looking for. Only way to know at this point is to get another P3 or hope that you get another person with the same style of vaping to give you their opinion.

All I know is that I have 2 reg devices that both do VW/ VV. For my style of vaping which is rather cool and wimpy to most, 20w is more than sufficient. One of my devices is a 60 watt and the other is a P3. I find I never go past 4.2v or 10.5w.

Everyone has their preferences for enjoyment and satisfaction. Those are very personal and should not be compared to some sort of "normal" or average. Being out of those normal number does not make you a freak or weird, or wimpy.

You are vaping for "YOU" to keep you happy and away from cigarettes. Your goal should be that and not trying to impress anyone but YOU. Unless you are in competitive vaping, or manufacturing to keep up with the "Jones" dont bother with max numbers.

So what if you have the highest wattage device and you never amp it up past 15w. Its like buying the most expensive high performance car and only go to the market occasionally.

If you need the power to keep you off cigarettes then....etc. Nothing wrong with either ends of the voltage/wattage spectrum.

If you like it hot, get the power if you like it cool.... you get it

 

[Quantum Mech]

i know it's limited in wattage mode but my question is it limited in voltage mode? i mean if i put a .5 coil and set it to 4.2 volts, will it vape the same as if the coil was on another mod in vw at 35watts? (simulation on steam engine.org)

Its limited to 20w

Regardless of, if you use the VW or VV mode

Its also has an amp limit too, which off the top of my head was about 4.5A

 

[ionesh]

Ok i see. Thanks for your input!


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[DaveP]

I don't have the Provari P3. I own the Provari V2 from about 5 years ago. I still use it often, but I'm more into VW and TC devices today. That said, it's still one of my favorite around the house vapes because it fits in a pocket easily.

The P3 can do 6 volts, 20 watts, and .7 ohms on the atty coil. If your coil is below .7 ohms, it will fault out. If the combination of voltage and resistance pushes it over 20 watts it will fault out.

The New ProVari P3

Power in watts = Voltage^2/Resistance. If you install a .5 ohm coil, that will work as long as you stay at or below 20W. At 4.2v the wattage draw would be 35W. That exceeds the 20 watt spec. The current in amps would be 8.4A, so that's out of its range, too.

Based on its specs, to vape a .5 ohm coil you'd have to vape at a maximum setting of 2.9v, 14.5 watts and that would produce a 5 amp draw on the battery, which is the max current rating.

I frequently use my Provari V2 to dry burn and anneal new coils. Its lowest resistance level is 1 ohm, so I get the low resistance error message sometimes when annealing a new coil. I have to rake the coils with a fingernail to separate them and continue the dry burn process.

 

[BreSha6869]

I regularly use a P3 with a Subtank Mini with a 0.5ohm coil.

I find that the P3 generally measures a 0.5 Kanger OCC coil or Kanger RBA with one of the included wire coils at 0.59-0.65ohms. That changes the equation a bit.

Also, the highest I can crank the P3 is about 19.5w and 3.4v. If you set it at 6v with a subohm coil, it won't work.

I get what you are saying though as I tried the same thing. It won't run past 20w regardless of the voltage. Period.