Puresmoker Protege-Other Battery types beside 14500
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I'm not familiar with the workings of the Protege.
However... a CR2 is a 15270... therefore its 15mm in diameter and 27mm long. Two of those stacked would be equal to a 15520. (all measurements are "roughly") That comes out to 1mm wider and 2 mm longer than your 14500.
The spring on the battery cover could probably cope with the extra 2mm length, but depending on how tight a fit the 14500 is as far as diameter, you may not be able to squeeze a 15mm wide batter into the case.
All you major big box stores will carry the cr2 batteries as they are very popular in cameras. Pick up a couple and give it a try.
!!! Note:
1. I don't know the workings of the Protege. There could me volt regulator?
2. I highly suggest you only use protected cr2 batteries. Good luck finding protected cr2's.
3. 2 CR2 batteries would be 6V!
Vape well, brothers and sisters.
Scott
However... a CR2 is a 15270... therefore its 15mm in diameter and 27mm long. Two of those stacked would be equal to a 15520. (all measurements are "roughly") That comes out to 1mm wider and 2 mm longer than your 14500.
The spring on the battery cover could probably cope with the extra 2mm length, but depending on how tight a fit the 14500 is as far as diameter, you may not be able to squeeze a 15mm wide batter into the case.
All you major big box stores will carry the cr2 batteries as they are very popular in cameras. Pick up a couple and give it a try.
!!! Note:
1. I don't know the workings of the Protege. There could me volt regulator?
2. I highly suggest you only use protected cr2 batteries. Good luck finding protected cr2's.
3. 2 CR2 batteries would be 6V!
Vape well, brothers and sisters.
Scott
CR2s won't fit. Get a BB, GG Grant, or SuperT Super-Six if you want a mod with a choice between 14500 and CR2s. Otherwise you're looking at much larger mods that allow for a 18650/CR123a option.
Also the SuperT1 and Adaptever can run 2 cr2s but need additional sleeves.
Also the SuperT1 and Adaptever can run 2 cr2s but need additional sleeves.
Well... turds.
And now we know. Sorry to steer you down the path of fail.
Vape well, brothers and sisters.
Scott
And now we know. Sorry to steer you down the path of fail.
Vape well, brothers and sisters.
Scott
Protege is built with 14500 (14mm x 50mm x 0==circular) batts in mind. not much else will fit without doing your own improv (and then share it here please 
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Not sure where you'd put/fit an resistor (interior OR exterior)????
)Not sure where you'd put/fit an resistor (interior OR exterior)????
Protege is built with 14500 (14mm x 50mm x 0==circular) batts in mind. not much else will fit without doing your own improv (and then share it here please
Not sure where you'd put/fit an resistor (interior OR exterior)????
well no matter where you put it, if you do it will start looking like your borg stick hehe
Yes, I guess if you wanted to stay with puresmoker products then you have to get a Prodigy instead of a Protege, as nothing else would fit. Thanks jobze for the recommendations on other units you can modify! Thanks dbk2 on the info on how battery types are based on dimensions!
PROTEGE DOES 5V, but more on that in a minute...
The recommended Tenergy 14500 unprotected is rated at 900mAh, but my protected AW 14500 batteries, rated at only 750mAh, consistently outperform them by about an hour or so. Nothing technical, I just know I go through more juice and get consistently good 3.6-4.2V vapor production for a longer stretch.
With that said, I've been using two unprotected AW14250 batteries, exactly half the size of the 14500, giving me 7.4V fresh off of the charger. They are rated a measly 300mAh, but last nearly twice as long as my 510 Mega batteries (supposedly 280mAh) and right about the same length of time with my dual unprotected AW10440 batteries in a custom 5v laser pen (rated at 400mAh). The resistor in that mod is likely taking a bit of battery life out of these to cut the voltage down. Again, nothing technical just a guess on my part, but experience wise I've been getting about 4-5 hours of out and about vaping, refilling 510 carts with 15-20 drops about twice, or dripping 5 drops on a penstyle atomizer about 4 or 5 times.
But back to the Protege. The two 14250 batteries give 7.4V off the charger which is ridiculous. But with an HV801 atomizer I have--and both regular HV (around 4.2-4.5 Ohm) and the higher resistance (5.2 Ohm) atomizers have proven to be great vapes--all is well in vapor world. I personally prefer the 5.2 Ohm high voltage atomizer on 7.4V, bringing the vaping experience just about on par with the USB Pass/ Protege Passthrough when the batteries are peak (about 5v). It doesn't last all day. But, it is relatively on par with the 4 hours I currently get from the Tenergy RCR123A batteries in the Prodigy V2 at a fraction of the size (not that that the V2 is big by any means). For comparison again, AW LiFePO4 3Volt batteries (rated at 500mAh) vape about an hour longer and allow me to use more juice than the Tenergy RCR123A batteries in my V2. I also have some batteries from China (though I don't know where I got them from exactly, maybe DX, but they are rated at 1000mAh and are the weakest performers of any batteries I own (aside from a couple especially weak RCR2 batteries). So the mAh ratings are way, way off. I don't know how reliable AW's rating are either, but every battery that I've used from them has held up better than their Tenergy or DX counterpart. All of that is to say that the Protege with two AW unprotected 14250 batteries and a High Voltage 801 atomizer at about 5.2 Ohms is a solid out and about performer for me. When I need to chain vape, I break out the passthrough extension and plug it in. If I need a mellow longer lasting through the day vape, at home or out and about, I have an additional 14500 in my pocket to readjust to the 3.7V experience. That in itself is tough at times, but I'm trying not to stay hooked on exclusively high voltage vaping. It puts any pleasurable experience I've ever had with analogues to shame...no ifs, ands, or cigarette butts about it!
So, this thread was buried somewhere and the last post was back in November 2009. No credit goes to me, others have talked about this on here and within threads on other forums. However, I don't know if anyone actually tried it. I have, along with my HV atomizer, and both of us are still here to talk about it. Bottom line, it's a nice middle ground from Protege to Prodigy, and even you have the Prodigy V2, it's an even more stealth vaping experience. Because the 14250s are 3.6/3.7V batteries, they'll charge in most multifunction chargers, including the ones that come with the Protege full kit using the magnetic spacers included with the batteries.
buGG
The recommended Tenergy 14500 unprotected is rated at 900mAh, but my protected AW 14500 batteries, rated at only 750mAh, consistently outperform them by about an hour or so. Nothing technical, I just know I go through more juice and get consistently good 3.6-4.2V vapor production for a longer stretch.
With that said, I've been using two unprotected AW14250 batteries, exactly half the size of the 14500, giving me 7.4V fresh off of the charger. They are rated a measly 300mAh, but last nearly twice as long as my 510 Mega batteries (supposedly 280mAh) and right about the same length of time with my dual unprotected AW10440 batteries in a custom 5v laser pen (rated at 400mAh). The resistor in that mod is likely taking a bit of battery life out of these to cut the voltage down. Again, nothing technical just a guess on my part, but experience wise I've been getting about 4-5 hours of out and about vaping, refilling 510 carts with 15-20 drops about twice, or dripping 5 drops on a penstyle atomizer about 4 or 5 times.
But back to the Protege. The two 14250 batteries give 7.4V off the charger which is ridiculous. But with an HV801 atomizer I have--and both regular HV (around 4.2-4.5 Ohm) and the higher resistance (5.2 Ohm) atomizers have proven to be great vapes--all is well in vapor world. I personally prefer the 5.2 Ohm high voltage atomizer on 7.4V, bringing the vaping experience just about on par with the USB Pass/ Protege Passthrough when the batteries are peak (about 5v). It doesn't last all day. But, it is relatively on par with the 4 hours I currently get from the Tenergy RCR123A batteries in the Prodigy V2 at a fraction of the size (not that that the V2 is big by any means). For comparison again, AW LiFePO4 3Volt batteries (rated at 500mAh) vape about an hour longer and allow me to use more juice than the Tenergy RCR123A batteries in my V2. I also have some batteries from China (though I don't know where I got them from exactly, maybe DX, but they are rated at 1000mAh and are the weakest performers of any batteries I own (aside from a couple especially weak RCR2 batteries). So the mAh ratings are way, way off. I don't know how reliable AW's rating are either, but every battery that I've used from them has held up better than their Tenergy or DX counterpart. All of that is to say that the Protege with two AW unprotected 14250 batteries and a High Voltage 801 atomizer at about 5.2 Ohms is a solid out and about performer for me. When I need to chain vape, I break out the passthrough extension and plug it in. If I need a mellow longer lasting through the day vape, at home or out and about, I have an additional 14500 in my pocket to readjust to the 3.7V experience. That in itself is tough at times, but I'm trying not to stay hooked on exclusively high voltage vaping. It puts any pleasurable experience I've ever had with analogues to shame...no ifs, ands, or cigarette butts about it!
So, this thread was buried somewhere and the last post was back in November 2009. No credit goes to me, others have talked about this on here and within threads on other forums. However, I don't know if anyone actually tried it. I have, along with my HV atomizer, and both of us are still here to talk about it. Bottom line, it's a nice middle ground from Protege to Prodigy, and even you have the Prodigy V2, it's an even more stealth vaping experience. Because the 14250s are 3.6/3.7V batteries, they'll charge in most multifunction chargers, including the ones that come with the Protege full kit using the magnetic spacers included with the batteries.
buGG
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buGG,
That is awesome information. it would be nice to find a resistor disk that you could first drop into the protege to take away the need for HV attys - STEVE!! are you listening?!!
That is awesome information. it would be nice to find a resistor disk that you could first drop into the protege to take away the need for HV attys - STEVE!! are you listening?!!
buGG,
That is awesome information. it would be nice to find a resistor disk that you could first drop into the protege to take away the need for HV attys - STEVE!! are you listening?!!
i could be wrong, but i believe the resistor would drain the battery life a bit...since we're already dealing with relatively low (but good) mAh ratings for these incredibly small (but good) batteries, playing with resistance in the atomizers are probably the best way to go. plus, i think the hv atomizers actually extend battery life a bit, by not heating up as much.
buGG
I would just like to see a more permanent option that doesn't rely on special (and limited availability) atty's. Too bad those 14250's aren't available in 3v. .... or better yet, a 5v 14500! Still - for HV vaping in a small device like the protege, it's well worth it. Excellent find!
Still - for HV vaping in a small device like the protege, it's well worth it. Excellent find!
Since the resistor ring in the v2 drops it from 6v to 5v on the 2 tenergy lifepo4 bats couldnt you use the same ring in the protege with 2-14250 bats and achieve the same 5v option as the prodigy v2 without going the HV atty way
The V2 contact disk and two of the 14250's work great but it's a little tight on length. Not terrible, just tight..
You can also run the Protege contact disk and either a CR123A and a blank spacer or a 14500 and a home made spacer and run the V2 @ 4.2 - 3.7..
I think the V2 is a better choice for 3.7 - ~5v applications...
It's stainless, has a much better feel and I think, size...
My 2¢
the 14250s are 3.7V each, but the lifepo4 batteries in the v2 are 3V each. with the resistive button (v2) on the protege and two 14250s, Steve says you'll get about 6.1V under load. definitely doable with a standard atty, but i like the vape on that setup with a hv penstyle.
and the aw 14250 batteries (though unprotected) fit like a charm. the protected ones floating around here (ultrafire i think) make a doable, but very tight fit if you keep the spring on the endcap.
this setup is pretty sweet; doesn't last all day, but if you want what's probably the smallest possible 5 or 6v vape (length not girth) for those times when 3.7-4.2V just won't cut it, this little guy definitely does the job!
buGG
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So then if you were to make another contact ring out of a higher resistive metal you could achieve 5v with 2 protected 14250 batteries and actually increase the vape time versus the 6.1v and still use regular atties. I believe the v2 contact ring is made of tungsten, Could be wrong, but sounds possible so why not make rings for different voltages.
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