When my daughter and I were using cigalikes with cartos, our pg/vg ratios went between 80/20, 70/30 and 65/35. We finally settled on 65/35. When we got the Evods, we found that not only was the flavor a bit muted, but the pg was hitting a little harsher than we liked. We have now settled on 50/50 with 1 flavor shot, and that seems to have hit the right spot for us right now.