Question on ohm atomizer for provari mini

[LongDraw]

Hello,

Been haunting the forums for about a week now, and they have been extremely helpful. Unfortunately I ordered my atomizers before doing a little more research. I bought io6 atomizers after purchasing an io6 DCA. They will be coming to me in the next few days, but now am kinda worried that I shouldn't have bought the 3.5 ohm atomizers.

Wondered if anyone could give me some input on whether these atomizers would work for me. Right now I am using an apollo mini v-tube (will also be using the atomizers on a provari mini which should be here tomorrow), and I tend to go between 3.7 and 4.4 volts, not sure of the atomizer ohm as it came in the apollo kit. At the time of ordering the io6 I was using a voltage of around 4.5, which based on the ikenvapes website is why i went with the high resistance atomizer.

Do you think this will work for me? Any concern with using a lower voltage such as 3.7 to 4.4 with an HR atomizer?

Hopefully all of that made sense.

Thank you,

 

[BigDaddies-Atty]

Hello jacob82! I am not familiar with io6 atomizers, but with the ProVari I would not worry about low voltage on HR atty's. The ProVari is all about personal taste and preference. I just got my ProVari mini in today and I am loving it. Good luck.

 

[JC Okie]

If the vape is too cool, just jack up the ProVari to a little higher voltage. My sweet spot is an LR atty (usually 1.5-1.7 ohms) with a 3.7 volt battery. Perfect for me. But the beauty of the ProVari (or any variable voltage device) is that you can adjust the voltage up to what you like. You should be fine, and as you experiment with other attys, you'll find the perfect vape for you. Have fun.

EDIT: There will be no problem at all....except the vape may be a little "cool".... An HR atty won't hurt anything at all....it's all about personal preference. Some juices taste a little "burnt" or "scorched" when you use a LR atty. It really is all about experimentation. The juices you choose will affect the vape, the ohms on the atty will affect the vape, the voltage on the pv will affect the vape. It takes time and playing around with your equipment and juice to get it perfect....for you. It's all so subjective.

On the other hand, if you were using an LR atty, you couldn't jack up the voltage too high or it would "pop" (and ruin) the atty....a higher resistance atty is more forgiving than an LR, and the ProVari will "fix" any mistakes.

Jan

 

[LongDraw]

Thank you, I have seen charts which give ohm and voltage for watts, not sure I understood the chart correctly though. Enjoy the provari, I keep tracking mine and hope it comes tomorrow and not on Monday.

 

[LongDraw]

If the vape is too cool, just jack up the ProVari to a little higher voltage. My sweet spot is an LR atty (usually 1.5-1.7 ohms) with a 3.7 volt battery. Perfect for me. But the beauty of the ProVari (or any variable voltage device) is that you can adjust the voltage up to what you like. You should be fine, and as you experiment with other attys, you'll find the perfect vape for you. Have fun.

So there isn't a concern with using HR atties with lower volts, mainly just LR atties with to high of volts? I put in the above response that I noticed a chart but again do not think I am reading it right will have to take a look again tomorrow.

 

[JC Okie]

So there isn't a concern with using HR atties with lower volts, mainly just LR atties with to high of volts? I put in the above response that I noticed a chart but again do not think I am reading it right will have to take a look again tomorrow.

Exactly. It seems complicated, but it's really not. LR attys can't handle high voltages, but HR attys can handle about anything....almost. I'm no expert on electricity, although I'll say I've learned a LOT about it since I've been vaping. With an LR atty, you wouldn't want to go much higher than say 4.0-4.6 volts or so. The only down side to using an HR atty is that you will need to crank the voltage up quite a bit if you like a warm vape.

I don't want to confuse you, but there's a formula to use to get the watts you are vaping at. Voltage x voltage divided by your resistance will give you the watts. For many (most??) people, the best vape is somewhere between 6 and 10 watts. You can do the math. If you're vaping at 5 volts, say, then 5 x 5 = 25 divided by 3.5 = 7.14 watts. I vape at 3.7 volts and I use a 1.5 ohm atty. So.... 3.7 x 3.7 = 13.69 divided by 1.5 = 9.12 watts. My combination will be a little warmer than yours. (I like it warm.) If 5 volts isn't warm enough, just jack up the ProVari to 5.5 volts, then you'll be vaping at 8.64 watts. See?

 

[Dr33m]

You are fine. Lower ohms = lower volts 1.8 ohm @ 4.2 volts is pretty good. 3.5 ohms @ 5.8 volts should be good. From what I read and am currently experimenting with is getting the watts somewhere around 9.
Here is a link to an online calculator that I sometimes use till I know them by heart.
Ohm's Law Calculator

 

[kabonk]

what you could do is put the 3.5 ohm atty on and keep upping the voltage until you find what works for you, for me a 3.5ohm atty @ 5.8v would work pretty good but you may or may not like it that high so just play with it and enjoy your new mod

 

[gimmieshelter31]

Jacob82 , this will all get easier. High resistance and higher than standard voltage can extend battery life. I've never tried a io6 myself but I can tell you that even if you have to crank the provari to 6 volts , at 3.5 ohms , that is a pretty warm vape at 10.29 watts and at a battery draw of 1.71 amps it is well within the 3.5 amp limit of the provari .

So with any new atty , carto or tank etc. start on the lower end of the voltage scale and adjust upward until you are happy with the vape.

Note: use the Ao (atomizer ohms) feature of your provari to check the ohms before setting voltage. Not all products are correctly labeled.
Also bookmark (add to favorites) an ohms law calculator .Its great to figure out the wattage you like a particular fluid and it makes it easier later to get a similar vape on other attys or cartos of different resistance. Of course atty , carto construction is a factor but knowing the general wattage you like makes for a good starting point. I use this calculator http://www.convertalot.com/ohms_law_calculator.html

Good Luck,
Russ

ETA: I'm not a typist and the posters above beat me to it lol. I only use this particular calculator because it is the first one I found and I like its simplicity.

 

[mrelwood]

So there isn't a concern with using HR atties with lower volts, mainly just LR atties with to high of volts?

HR atties with low volts will produce very little vapour, throat hit and flavor (VTF). LR atties with high volts will probably burn the juice to a vile taste and drain the battery a lot quicker. To me 7 Watts seems to be the ideal vaping power on my main devices. The calculations are very basic, taught in Finnish schools when we were 14.

Watts = Volts * Volts / Ohms

If you are using a 2.0 Ohm ato at 3.7 Volts, it totals 3.7 * 3.7 / 2 = 6.9 Watts.
For roughly the same experience on a 3.0 ohm ato you would need 4.5 Volts, and on a 1.5 ohm ato only 3.2 Volts.

Those calculations will only give a general direction though, as every ato/juice combination behaves differently under various voltages. So in the end, adjust to taste.

 

[tj99959]

Both the Vtube and the Provari have buttons you push if the atomizer needs a different voltage.
The atties in your Vtube kit are 3ohm. Right now, using your numbers, you are vaping between 5.5 and 6.5 watts.
So just plug in 6 watts and the resistance of your io6 atty into this Ohm's Law Calculator , and it will tell you what voltage to use.

 

[LongDraw]

Exactly. It seems complicated, but it's really not. LR attys can't handle high voltages, but HR attys can handle about anything....almost. I'm no expert on electricity, although I'll say I've learned a LOT about it since I've been vaping. With an LR atty, you wouldn't want to go much higher than say 4.0-4.6 volts or so. The only down side to using an HR atty is that you will need to crank the voltage up quite a bit if you like a warm vape.

I don't want to confuse you, but there's a formula to use to get the watts you are vaping at. Voltage x voltage divided by your resistance will give you the watts. For many (most??) people, the best vape is somewhere between 6 and 10 watts. You can do the math. If you're vaping at 5 volts, say, then 5 x 5 = 25 divided by 3.5 = 7.14 watts. I vape at 3.7 volts and I use a 1.5 ohm atty. So.... 3.7 x 3.7 = 13.69 divided by 1.5 = 9.12 watts. My combination will be a little warmer than yours. (I like it warm.) If 5 volts isn't warm enough, just jack up the ProVari to 5.5 volts, then you'll be vaping at 8.64 watts. See?

Thank you, have seen the formula and it is helpful to know what a lot of people usually shoot for in watts. Plus now I think I get why measure for watts, allows you to know what voltage to use (or preference) regardless of attie and ohms.

You are fine. Lower ohms = lower volts 1.8 ohm @ 4.2 volts is pretty good. 3.5 ohms @ 5.8 volts should be good. From what I read and am currently experimenting with is getting the watts somewhere around 9.
Here is a link to an online calculator that I sometimes use till I know them by heart.
Ohm's Law Calculator

Appreciate the calculator, will make it easier for now.

HR atties with low volts will produce very little vapour, throat hit and flavor (VTF). LR atties with high volts will probably burn the juice to a vile taste and drain the battery a lot quicker. To me 7 Watts seems to be the ideal vaping power on my main devices. The calculations are very basic, taught in Finnish schools when we were 14.

Watts = Volts * Volts / Ohms

If you are using a 2.0 Ohm ato at 3.7 Volts, it totals 3.7 * 3.7 / 2 = 6.9 Watts.
For roughly the same experience on a 3.0 ohm ato you would need 4.5 Volts, and on a 1.5 ohm ato only 3.2 Volts.

Those calculations will only give a general direction though, as every ato/juice combination behaves differently under various voltages. So in the end, adjust to taste.

Thank you as well, will also work out the watts while I play around with the voltage.



Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the help. Not so worried about the 3.5 ohm atties now, am looking forward to trying to 2.5 next time I order. I gotta say out of any forums I have been to our haunted ECF is definitely the most helpful and friendly.

 

[mrelwood]

About the "warmth"... Some people say that in order to get a warmer vape you can up the voltage (and watts). That hasn't affected the temperature of my vapes at all, since atleast on my vaporizers the wicking capabilities (or something) do not keep up when upping the power, so the vape tastes burned long before the vapour itself gets any warmer.

eGo-C is a surprisingly different animal, I can use my Twist at 3.7 or 4.8 volts without a significant change either in the taste, hit or warmth.