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Discussion in 'Pay It Forward - PIF' started by debbir, Jun 6, 2011.

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  1. debbir

    debbir Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 2, 2010
    Orlando, FL
    Today I got a yahoo IM from a person representing a supplier in China. Shenzhen Smok Technology Co., Ltd. - Electronic Cigarette, E-Cigarette, atomized cartridges So very strange, first time it happened to me. I am guessing they got my messenger from my profile on here.
    My question is, has anyone purchased anything from them? They have some awesome prices, but I have concerns. They don't sell juice just attys, ecigs, cartos
    I was thinking we could come up with a coop through them. They seem to be amenable to the idea, I have been speaking to a representative
     
  2. Darkwitless

    Darkwitless Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 21, 2010
    KY
    They contacted you out of the blue? I know there really is a company by that name, but that doesn't meant this is a legitimate offer from this company. I'm always leery of any offer to do business from a company that pops up out of the blue wanting to do business. Kind of like when I get an email from my bank asking for my personal info - it's NOT my bank - they have my personal info. kwim?
     
  3. debbir

    debbir Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 2, 2010
    Orlando, FL
    Dark, I understand what you're saying completely. That is why I have concerns. The fact that he im'd me out of the blue like that was just plain strange. But, I did go to the website, ordered a copy of the factory audit report, and did speak with a representative from the site itself. So, I really don't know what to think. I contacted Bianca about a possible coop, but I just don't know...seems to me that I was a strange pick, I am not a supplier and he did ask me if I was one.
     
  4. librarising

    librarising Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2010
    New York
    That's Smok Tech, the makers of the dual coil cartos. It's odd that they approached you like that and if I were you, I would email the company to find out if that person was legit.
     
  5. debbir

    debbir Senior Member ECF Veteran

    May 2, 2010
    Orlando, FL
    lib, good idea!! Thanks
     
  6. CarrieM

    CarrieM Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 27, 2010
    Rochester NY
    I have a contact there that I chat with from time to time on Yahoo. I have gotten carto's from them in the past. They seem to be a good company.
     
  7. thehangdude

    thehangdude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 17, 2011
    Terre Haute, IN
    Is it time to try another co-op with SmokTech? I sure hope so.
     
  8. BiancaMontgomery

    BiancaMontgomery SQUIRREL! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jan 27, 2010
    North Carolina
    They are the only makers of the cartos you want to do the co-op for. Had you not contacted ANYONE about that possilbe co-op yet? If you had, they probably just sent the info to Smok Tech. If you hadn't...I'd be a bit freaked out too!
     
  9. The Big Chief

    The Big Chief Moved On ECF Veteran

    Dec 14, 2009
    Anderson, IN
    Smok tech seems to have issues with co-ops now...a few retailers complained. Namely COV, madvapes and got vapes. The co-ops were cutting into their business, and threatened to pull out...so smok tech patted them on the tooshie, and shut down co-ops....Hate to call em out, but it is what it is, and it was a bit of a shady deal. Yeah, I'm still a little perturbed I missed out thanks to these folks.
    I wouldnt be so surprised though you were contacted on yahoo...I seem to get contacted on msn somehow, or skype..I never use either. But china reps are generally commission based, and they will seek out orders just like any salesman. As long as their addy seems correct with @ smoketech.com or whatever, Im guessing they are ligit.
     
  10. librarising

    librarising Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2010
    New York
    So would the solution be for someone to buy them outright from Smok tech and then sell them at cost once they're here in the US?
     
  11. hoogie76

    hoogie76 Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Aug 1, 2009
    Charlotte, NC
    funny, we never even knew they were doing a co-op thing and they told us they were only upping the moq to individual purchasers and not stopping it.

    hoog
     
  12. CarrieM

    CarrieM Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 27, 2010
    Rochester NY
    Smoketech don't have an issue with Co-ops, but they are trying to keep the Vendors happy by making it seem a bit more difficult by raising the MOQ
     
  13. librarising

    librarising Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2010
    New York
    At their alibaba site they show some of the dual coils at 100 MOQ...with trial orders welcomed and some with 200 MOQ. They don't even seem to have their story straight there.
     
  14. CarrieM

    CarrieM Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 27, 2010
    Rochester NY
    I don't bother with Alibaba. I just go to my contact. She's always been good working with me.
     
  15. DLite

    DLite Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jul 21, 2010
    CA
    I've delt with SmokTech before and have had no problems with them, The ONLY problem I have with them is that they will tell you every supplier that buys from them and what they are purchasing, Amounts ect. So be carefull as to what you tell them.
     
  16. leannebug

    leannebug Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 5, 2010
    the deep south
    I'm very surprised
    The way I heard it ... All grapevine mind you... Was that they were against our coops and dealing with individuals.
    I'd say: tread lightly.

    Just my 2c


    Sent from my pod
     
  17. The Big Chief

    The Big Chief Moved On ECF Veteran

    Dec 14, 2009
    Anderson, IN
    I had extensive talk with one person there, and notified that anyone known to run co-ops, would be banned.... BUT, they will not control pricing of any businesses items, or attempt to. Read between the lines.
    But prices and moq's were increased strictly to appease certain vendors. These vendors wanted an uneven playing field, and got it. Im more dissapointed in smoke tech for agreeing to such terms. They know they have a monopoly on these, so I cant buy that they were "bullied" into this buy US retailers. I think it played a role, but ultimately they used these complaints as permission to increase sales price due to the inflated ego. I call em like I see em...but just my opinion on the business end. As far as the quality...maybe later. I will say they have cause to hold their head up high...just gotta watch the nose :p

    Not to argue any points, but as an overall reply-
    I was going to take part in a co-op for these dual coils, and it was shut down...I did my due diligence, and this is where it led. 50/50 shot on truthfulness from either side. I wasnt present during any alleged conversations. Im just saying that increased moq is too be expected, but awfully quick to increase sales price and be so stern about it, so quickly on new product. It all does kinda add up to make sense.
     
  18. bmwjen

    bmwjen Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    worldwide
    They sell to me no problem & i'm not even a vendor.
     
  19. The Big Chief

    The Big Chief Moved On ECF Veteran

    Dec 14, 2009
    Anderson, IN
    These decisions would only effect future buyers, not previous ones. China runs on "grandfather" clause type business. Cool if your the grand, not so much the pa, and son..he's just stuck. :p
     
  20. DLite

    DLite Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Jul 21, 2010
    CA
    It also depends on who you deal with, If your dealing with the Sales Manager, he's pretty good. Any of the others arent worth the time to talk with.
     
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