questions about builds

[jbnuke]

Ok so ive seen a few things floating around that regulated devices mean the death of subohming... but I really don think so and heres why. As im new to this I want you guys experience to let me know if my thinking is wrong. Ok so I have 2 builds, both around .6 ohm. One is using a quad coil 32 gage kanthal and one is a dual coil 28 gage kanthal. The dual coil can run at a higher wattage than the quad coil without burning. Now my theory is that all things being equal the reason boils down to surface area. A subohm build using a lower gage wire creates more surface area therefore more juice in contact with the coil. So as a result, the dual coil chucks out more vapor. In subohming you can use a lower gage wire, therefore get the most surface area in the limited space available so best vapor production... am I wrong in my assumptions?

 

[jdake3265]

no your not necessarily wrong, but what does that have to do with regulated devices?

Also a quad coil with the same amount of wraps as the dual, even if it is lower gauge, might not necessarily have less surface space, but it won't have as fast as a reaction, it won't get as warm, and it might be bard to get air flowing underneath all the coils on the quad. Those three aspects are why you aren't getting as good a flavor as your dual.

 

[KenD]

Well, building higher ohm coils of any gauge wire results in more surface area. 0.6 ohm coil with 28 ga wire vs 1.2 ohm coil with 28 ga wire, the latter will have more surface area. With regulated mods you're not limited to the battery voltage and most modern regulated mods can handle low sub ohm builds (for example, the DNA40 chip can handle 0.16 ohm kanthal coils, safely). Don't get me wrong, I love mechs, but modern ones can do pretty much anything a mech can.

 

[Nomoreash]

Regulated is about consistency and safety features, you can subohm with both depending on the regulator. You'll always have fans of both, that's not going to change.

 

[jdake3265]

Well, building higher ohm coils of any gauge wire results in more surface area. 0.6 ohm coil with 28 ga wire vs 1.2 ohm coil with 28 ga wire, the latter will have more surface area. With regulated mods you're not limited to the battery voltage and most modern regulated mods can handle low sub ohm builds (for example, the DNA40 chip can handle 0.16 ohm kanthal coils, safely). Don't get me wrong, I love mechs, but modern ones can do pretty much anything a mech can.

true but if you have two coils equaling .6(1.2oh per coil) it matches out to a single 1.2ohm coil and it gets hotter and produces more vapor and more heat which will make you taste it better.

 

[Norrin]

It's all subjective, well apart from the ego trippers with there look at my 0.006ohm coil or the masses of clouds I can make, different coils produce different results so a sub-ohm coil will produce 1 result and a higher ohm coil a different result. A regulated device can kick out more power than a standard mech at lowish ohms and far far more for higher ohm builds and this means that people have more choice on how they vape. I chase vapour and I find that I get that at higher ohms with more power, but that's me and I'm happy. At least with these regulated devices more people can be kept safe at low ohms so for that they are a good thing, sub-ohming will never die IMO but I think some will see the benefits of high power higher coils too.

 

[KenD]

true but if you have two coils equaling .6(1.2oh per coil) it matches out to a single 1.2ohm coil and it gets hotter and produces more vapor and more heat which will make you taste it better.

The point was that on a regulated device there isn't really a need to use subohm coils (though on most of the newer ones you can) as you can simply adjust the volts/watts. A 0.6 ohm dual coil has less surface area than a 1.2 ohm dual coil, using the same wire gauge. Going for low subohms requires thick wire, which will result in increased heat-up and cool-down time.

Also, I'm not entirely sure what you mean. That two 1.2 ohm coils wired in parallel equal 0.6 ohms total (yes), or that the surface area of those two coils equals one 1.2 ohm coil (no, it equals one 2.4 ohm coil).

 

[jdake3265]

The point was that on a regulated device there isn't really a need to use subohm coils (though on most of the newer ones you can) as you can simply adjust the volts/watts. A 0.6 ohm dual coil has less surface area than a 1.2 ohm dual coil, using the same wire gauge. Going for low subohms requires thick wire, which will result in increased heat-up and cool-down time.

Also, I'm not entirely sure what you mean. That two 1.2 ohm coils wired in parallel equal 0.6 ohms total (yes), or that the surface area of those two coils equals one 1.2 ohm coil (no, it equals one 2.4 ohm coil).

hahahhaahahah i just had the biggest brain fart ever, lol