Questions about more vapors and tobacco flavors

[Lyrikal]

Hey alll, so I've been vaping now for about 7 or 8 months, my main motivation being to quit anlogs, obviously enough. At first it didn't do it for me, I used it as a sub for when I ran out, but lately I've been trying a lot harder and I've managed to only have the odd analog here and there, and only if I've been drinking... I would say no more than 1 or 2 a week max, from 3 packs a week, so I'd like to think I'm doing well!

Anyways, I'm actually on here for a couple questions... I have the Joye Ego, purchased it from Liberty Flights, and since have gotten a derlin drip tip (which is all I use now), some LR 501 attys, a 900mah battery (which I rotate with my original 650 mah) and a bunch of various flavors, mostly fruit and and a couple tobacco ones. I mostly stick with VG base just cause I heard it's better for vapor but I'm not too picky on which I use.

1) I want more. When I say that, I mean more vapors, more throat hit, more flavor, etc. I thought about going with the Ego T but as far as I can tell it's just a bigger cartridge which isn't a problem for me. I don't notice much of a difference between the 2 batteries so I don't think that should matter, and I did go to a LR atty versus the standard that came with it. Any suggestions?

2) I've tried 2 tobacco flavors, Turk & USA blend which is I really liked, and the standard Tobacco flavor, which wasn't as good but still happy with it. These are both VG with 24 mg of nic. Since I order from LF, and have to pay 20$ in shipping and wait 3 weeks (I live in Alberta, Canada) I'd like to buy enough to last me about a year, probably 4-5 30ml bottles. I'm looking for a tobacco that best replicated the taste of a real cigarette. I smoke DuMaurier, sometimes Belmonts and Peter Jacksons, if that means anything to anyone, any suggestions on the best stuff out there? What are your favorites?

Oh and one more thing, if I find liquid that leaked through my atty onto my battery, does it mean it's toast? Or does that only happen if I over-fill it? Cause I'm pretty sure I don't, or is it a defect?

Much thanks in advance for any advice...

 

[washvap]

Wow, your pretty honest with what you do. That's good though, not sure how the mods feel about that. Anyways, as for your questions.

1. Sounds like it's time for you to upgrade to a mod. Since that's gonna give you more vapor, TH, etc. You might wanna do some research before making a final decision on your mod. Such as, if you prefer a tube mod, box mod, variable voltage, 3.7V, or High voltage. This will take some time to figure out but, it's well worth it if you wanna get what's best for you.

Personally, I like a REO since it's built from aircraft aluminum which makes it very durable. It's easy to use and doesn't require a lot of maintenance and fuss to use. It's a bottom fed device which is kind of like an ego-t since you can carry anywhere from 3-6ml depending if you want a grand or mini. Great battery life and performance as well. If your interested then check the sub-forum out:

Reos Mods

2. Your not gonna get something that tastes like a cig....plain and simple. You can check out suppliers that are available in the Canadian forum since I'm not sure how many US vendors are willing to ship to you:

Canada Forum

If your atty leaks then it's definitely due to flooding/over-filling. You only have a defect if it doesn't perform the same as the others that you've used of the same brand and type or doesn't work at all.

 

[Lyrikal]

Thanks for the info... I didn't feel like I had any reason to lie about what I did and why I did it regarding e-cigs lol... I'm not here to be judged or preach what I think is right or wrong.

1) Okay, so a mod, tell me abot this. Is it something you add on to your existing device? Is it something you put together with various parts (as long as you ultimately have the cart, the atty and the batt?) Or is it basically a whole new e-cig, kinda like after market parts for a vehicle (as opposed to OEM)? It's funny how when I bought the eGo less than a year ago, I thought I was getting one of the best items out there, looks like the evolution of e-cigs has been flying huh? lol

2) Really? Out of the thousands of flavors out there, no one can replicate that of a real analog cigarette? Tht's kinda odd... I guess it's just a matter of trying out dozens of samples and narrowing it down to a favorite.

3) Okay, I will keep an eye out for how much I drip, so that I don't flood it... But speaking of flooding, I was looking at the Ego T atty, and it's baically a large tank atty, does that mean I can drip 2-3 mls right into it and not over-fill it...? Or does that not make any sense because the cartridge has something to do with it?

Thanks again.

 

[Longhorn RN]

If I were you, I would edit out your second smoking preference just because we don't need any negative remarks from others saying that e-cigs are just for things other than actual vaping. I know you don't use it for that but ignorant people may jump to conclusions...just best to take it out of the OP. I'm not preaching at all...please don't take this as offensive!

Answer to one of your questions: Dunhill from Elixir Liquid is AWESOME! It has that "dirty" tobacco taste! I have tried many, many different tobacco flavored juice and this one is my favorite...just wish I found it months ago! I tried usa mix, ry4, 555, etc and nothing comes close to tasting like an actual analog like this!

There is a 15% off code you can enter at checkout it is either thru their main site or elixirtv. I'mnot sure if it's "save15" but it's something like that.

Good luck and I hope that you give it a try!

 

[washvap]

LOL, it's cool man. People do get testy on these forums about certain stuff though. So, that's why I mentioned it.

1. A mod is an electronic cigarette that looks nothing like a cig. Your right, it's an advanced e-cig that operates with it's own batteries. Which are replaceable (MOST of the time) compared to an ego where the battery is the main piece of the device. Ultimately, it looks nothing like a cig or cigar.

Here's a pic of the REO I'm talking about. To give you a better picture of what a mod is:

The ego is still the best start for beginners. And yes, e-cigs has evolved a lot from the time I started in 2008. Where the only things available were cig shaped e-cigs with cartridges. Honestly, looking forward to seeing how the technology progresses in the next few years.

2. Nope, no flavor out there will replicate burning chemicals, paper, and tobacoo. At least not yet but, the point of vaping is to quit cigs. So, I guess it's better for them not to replicate that flavor and after your taste buds has healed from not smoking. You won't miss it at all.

And yeah, it's about finding your favorite. Honestly, I'm not that type of person and like to have multiple flavors on hand. Since I get bored with a particular flavor really quick. Usually liking to switch from 2-5 flavors depending on where I am.

3. The ego-T was what actually got me off cigs when I started vaping again. With the type-B model, you can fill it with 2ml of juice. It'll feed from the tank through the wick/piercing plate into to the coil and mesh material. It helps to do some primer hits to feed it. As you can see, this is a simple system and all you basically have to do is press the button and puff away.

Cleaning it and keeping it working at the optimal level takes a little fiddling. And, no problem at all. Always like helping people out when I can.

Thanks for the info... I didn't feel like I had any reason to lie about what I did and why I did it regarding e-cigs lol... I'm not here to be judged or preach what I think is right or wrong.

1) Okay, so a mod, tell me abot this. Is it something you add on to your existing device? Is it something you put together with various parts (as long as you ultimately have the cart, the atty and the batt?) Or is it basically a whole new e-cig, kinda like after market parts for a vehicle (as opposed to OEM)? It's funny how when I bought the eGo less than a year ago, I thought I was getting one of the best items out there, looks like the evolution of e-cigs has been flying huh? lol

2) Really? Out of the thousands of flavors out there, no one can replicate that of a real analog cigarette? Tht's kinda odd... I guess it's just a matter of trying out dozens of samples and narrowing it down to a favorite.

3) Okay, I will keep an eye out for how much I drip, so that I don't flood it... But speaking of flooding, I was looking at the Ego T atty, and it's baically a large tank atty, does that mean I can drip 2-3 mls right into it and not over-fill it...? Or does that not make any sense because the cartridge has something to do with it?

Thanks again.

 

[Lyrikal]

Okay, two warnings was enough for me, I took it out lol...

I looked it up and went to order it, but looks like they don't ship to Canada because I couldn't enter Alberta as my Province (only lists states) Guess my search continues... I'm likely gonna just stick to LF (for now) since they've been good to me and order random tobacco flavours, maybe the virginia blend, us blend, luxury blend, not sure yet... They also have a Decadent Blend section, not sure what's that's about, but might do a lil more research there... Anything capture your attention through that supplier? Thanks again.

If I were you, I would edit out your second smoking preference just because we don't need any negative remarks from others saying that e-cigs are just for things other than actual vaping. I know you don't use it for that but ignorant people may jump to conclusions...just best to take it out of the OP. I'm not preaching at all...please don't take this as offensive!

Answer to one of your questions: Dunhill from Elixir Liquid is AWESOME! It has that "dirty" tobacco taste! I have tried many, many different tobacco flavored juice and this one is my favorite...just wish I found it months ago! I tried usa mix, ry4, 555, etc and nothing comes close to tasting like an actual analog like this!

There is a 15% off code you can enter at checkout it is either thru their main site or elixirtv. I'mnot sure if it's "save15" but it's something like that.

Good luck and I hope that you give it a try!

 

[HeadLikeOrange]

Have you tried low resistance (LR) cartomizers? These will work right on your eGo and deliver a much bigger hit (more taste, vapor, TH, nicotine) than regular cartomizers or cartridges, and don't require you to invest more serious money into a mod.

 

[Lyrikal]

Lots of info there, thanks!....

1) Okay, so I get what a mod is now... It's not an e-cig because it looks nothing like one, so essentially it's an after market personal vaporizer... But what I don't get is, what makes them better than e-cigs? Let me be specific... A PV's quality comes down to the battery and atty (at least that my understanding) So why is it that when someone wants a "better e-cig" they need to go to a mod? Why can't they take what makes a mod a bettter device (bettter attys than traditional 501 LR? better batteries than 3.7 to 6v; 650 to 900mah?) and put them in e-cigs?

Ultmately, if mods will always be bettter than traditional e-cigs, hands down, I will end up going with one, becaue I really want that exxtra vapor, throat hit, flavour, etc... But I like the traditional look, simplicity, small enough to be considered compact, "a fake stick". I'm just not clear on why they need to not look like e-cigs to perform better. As I mentioned above, I may stick with LF because they're treated me well and I'm likely ordering e-liquid from there, so if you were me, and you have what I got, what would you order from there (you can say nothing if you're really leaning on the mod idea lol)

2) Okay, makes sense, I guess my search will go on for a while then... I just assumed that if someone wanted to quit, they would get something that tasted like the real thing, so that they would forget it's a substitute and ease off the nasty analogs naturally without really noticing at all... What's your favorite e-liquid supplier anyways?

3) Okay, I so did some research on the eGo T, and I get how it works... But does going from an eGo to an eGo T do anything other than give you more e-liquid capacity? Like does it have anything to do with what I'm ultimately looking for? I'm assuming not from my research... Personally, the tank system just looks like a massive carto to me, since I would likely just drip 2-3 mls (not use a sponge cartridge in other words). Am I getting this right? If so, I won't bother, because capacity isn't my problem, it's production and results.

Appreciate all the advice.

LOL, it's cool man. People do get testy on these forums about certain stuff though. So, that's why I mentioned it.

1. A mod is an electronic cigarette that looks nothing like a cig. Your right, it's an advanced e-cig that operates with it's own batteries. Which are replaceable (MOST of the time) compared to an ego where the battery is the main piece of the device. Ultimately, it looks nothing like a cig or cigar.

Here's a pic of the REO I'm talking about. To give you a better picture of what a mod is:

The ego is still the best start for beginners. And yes, e-cigs has evolved a lot from the time I started in 2008. Where the only things available were cig shaped e-cigs with cartridges. Honestly, looking forward to seeing how the technology progresses in the next few years.

2. Nope, no flavor out there will replicate burning chemicals, paper, and tobacoo. At least not yet but, the point of vaping is to quit cigs. So, I guess it's better for them not to replicate that flavor and after your taste buds has healed from not smoking. You won't miss it at all.

And yeah, it's about finding your favorite. Honestly, I'm not that type of person and like to have multiple flavors on hand. Since I get bored with a particular flavor really quick. Usually liking to switch from 2-5 flavors depending on where I am.

3. The ego-T was what actually got me off cigs when I started vaping again. With the type-B model, you can fill it with 2ml of juice. It'll feed from the tank through the wick/piercing plate into to the coil and mesh material. It helps to do some primer hits to feed it. As you can see, this is a simple system and all you basically have to do is press the button and puff away.

 

[DaveP]

You can get a little more vapor and taste from a mod. I have a variable voltage Madvapes mod that produces much thicker vapor than a Boge Carto or a CE2 Carto, and more than any drip tip I've tried on an eGo or Riva battery.

That said, you can't beat a good carto for convenience and taste. They will screw right on to your eGo style battery and give you hours of vaping on a fill.

If you want to try variable voltage at a low price, look at the Madvapes vv box mod. It's a plastic battery box, but the only job of a mod is to get the voltage to the atomizer of your choice. If you don't find it to your liking, you are only out $35 and the cost of two batteries and a charger, not $150.

Variable Voltage Box Mod

 

[Lyrikal]

Yeah, I'm using LR attys, and I definitely noticed a huge difference from the stock atty that came with it. However I never got into using cartos rather than attys. Since I always use a drip tip, attys just seemed to make more sense to me... Unless I'm wrong and cartos perform better than attys do? If so, let me know, thanks

Have you tried low resistance (LR) cartomizers? These will work right on your eGo and deliver a much bigger hit (more taste, vapor, TH, nicotine) than regular cartomizers or cartridges, and don't require you to invest more serious money into a mod.

 

[Lyrikal]

So from the looks of it, you're buying this specific mod for the convenience of being able to set your voltage, correct?That's prettty sweet and makes sense...

I'm unclear about a few things though, you just said that I would screw it right onto my eGo style battery, but the device takes two AA batteries...? Doesn't one substitute the other? Are 14500 batteries "normal" batteries? Also, the description of the product mentioned the use of an atty, but you said carto... Are these two things interchangeable on all mods under most circumstances?

Thanks.

You can get a little more vapor and taste from a mod. I have a variable voltage Madvapes mod that produces much thicker vapor than a Boge Carto or a CE2 Carto, and more than any drip tip I've tried on an eGo or Riva battery.

That said, you can't beat a good carto for convenience and taste. They will screw right on to your eGo style battery and give you hours of vaping on a fill.

If you want to try variable voltage at a low price, look at the Madvapes vv box mod. It's a plastic battery box, but the only job of a mod is to get the voltage to the atomizer of your choice. If you don't find it to your liking, you are only out $35 and the cost of two batteries and a charger, not $150.

Variable Voltage Box Mod

 

[DaveP]

The Madvapes mod and most other mods use 3.7v batteries that are rechargeable. The recommended battery type is the AW (brand) 14500 IMR. These are high drain safe chemistry batteries that are safer than standard 14500 Li-ion batteries due to their design. Each battery produces 3.7v as opposed to the 1.5v that a regular AA alkaline produces. AA will fit in a mod, but it wont produce enough voltage to drive an atty into atomization. You might get a weak vape from AA batts.

The chief reason for a mod, especially a variable voltage (vv) mod is that you can adjust the voltage to suit the juice and the atomizer you are using. This is a great benefit afforded by vv mods. Sometimes a few tenths of a volt either way makes a world of difference in vapor and flavor.

The Madvapes vv boxmod gives you a thumbwheel variance of 0 to around 7 volts. With a 3 ohm atty, I find myself in the middle of the thumbwheel travel. I haven't checked the voltage, but it should be 3.5v to 4.0v. I had planned to hook up my voltmeter and monitor the voltage I found best for particular attys, but the internals are potted in clear silicone, which is a good thing. You don't want shorts with high drain batteries. They can produce enough energy to self destruct violently. At the least, they can blow the case open on the battery and at worst, they have been known to create enough pressure to blow up an aircraft aluminum flashlight and crack the case.

Those are worst case scenarios. The protected batteries have a little circuit board inside that pops a thermal limiter if meltdown is imminent. It's still advisable to measure the voltages before and especially after charging to make sure that you don't have one battery dead and the other charged. In a single channel charger or in an ecig, one can reverse charge the other and cause a spew out the vent ports.

Too much information, probably, but sometimes I get going and don't stop when I should!

 

[Lyrikal]

Lots of information can never be a bad thing lol... Okay, so I get the battery aspect of it. Is this a device you would use with a drip-tip, or are cartos the way to go? Can you even use a drip tip with a carto or only an atty? If I was to buy this, I would simply need to purchase the batteries, and use my own atty/carto right? If more voltage = more vapor/throat hit, why go low at all? Would this be a step up from the Reo? Since they are both box type mods, but this one has the voltage setting...? Then I guess the benefit of the Reo is that it's bottom fed where this one isn't... Voltage sounds more important than capacity to me at the moment. Pros and cons clearly lol.

I've heard a lot about the Silver Bullet mod, isn't that simply a bigger battery and/or better atty? I thought that's really what all mods came down to, until recently, with these last two described as a bottom feeder and a variable voltage option... Any other major mod categories?

Lots of questions, sorry

The Madvapes mod and most other mods use 3.7v batteries that are rechargeable. The recommended battery type is the AW (brand) 14500 IMR. These are high drain safe chemistry batteries that are safer than standard 14500 Li-ion batteries due to their design. Each battery produces 3.7v as opposed to the 1.5v that a regular AA alkaline produces. AA will fit in a mod, but it wont produce enough voltage to drive an atty into atomization. You might get a weak vape from AA batts.

The chief reason for a mod, especially a variable voltage (vv) mod is that you can adjust the voltage to suit the juice and the atomizer you are using. This is a great benefit afforded by vv mods. Sometimes a few tenths of a volt either way makes a world of difference in vapor and flavor.

The Madvapes vv boxmod gives you a thumbwheel variance of 0 to around 7 volts. With a 3 ohm atty, I find myself in the middle of the thumbwheel travel. I haven't checked the voltage, but it should be 3.5v to 4.0v. I had planned to hook up my voltmeter and monitor the voltage I found best for particular attys, but the internals are potted in clear silicone, which is a good thing. You don't want shorts with high drain batteries. They can produce enough energy to self destruct violently. At the least, they can blow the case open on the battery and at worst, they have been known to create enough pressure to blow up an aircraft aluminum flashlight and crack the case.

Those are worst case scenarios. The protected batteries have a little circuit board inside that pops a thermal limiter if meltdown is imminent. It's still advisable to measure the voltages before and especially after charging to make sure that you don't have one battery dead and the other charged. In a single channel charger or in an ecig, one can reverse charge the other and cause a spew out the vent ports.

Too much information, probably, but sometimes I get going and don't stop when I should!

 

[Longhorn RN]

Okay, two warnings was enough for me, I took it out lol...

I looked it up and went to order it, but looks like they don't ship to Canada because I couldn't enter Alberta as my Province (only lists states) Guess my search continues... I'm likely gonna just stick to LF (for now) since they've been good to me and order random tobacco flavours, maybe the virginia blend, us blend, luxury blend, not sure yet... They also have a Decadent Blend section, not sure what's that's about, but might do a lil more research there... Anything capture your attention through that supplier? Thanks again.

Hey there! I haven't check decadent out but alot of people seem to like their ejuices. That is a bummer about Elixir Liquid...I would send them an email, Greg is really knowledgeable and quick to reply...just ask him in the email about mailing to Canada. That's a bummer, if so! It's awesome, IMHO. I vape sweet, tobacco and menthol. I never smoked menthol analogs but I like it for vaping and usually vape one of those but like the tobacco flavor quite often because I'm not a "sweets" person and I tend to get headaches with the sweeter ejuices, just smelling the aroma coming from the bottle.

 

[Longhorn RN]

I don't know anything about mods (how they work) but you can put a drip tip on a carto, just make sure you get the right size. I use drip tips on all my cartos, seems to give a warmer vape, tons of vapor and flavor is better, IMHO. Good luck whenyou decide on a new pv!

 

[wdave]

Hey alll, so I've been vaping now for about 7 or 8 months, my main motivation being to quit anlogs, obviously enough. At first it didn't do it for me, I used it as a sub for when I ran out, but lately I've been trying a lot harder and I've managed to only have the odd analog here and there, and only if I've been drinking... I would say no more than 1 or 2 a week max, from 3 packs a week, so I'd like to think I'm doing well!

Anyways, I'm actually on here for a couple questions... I have the Joye Ego, purchased it from Liberty Flights, and since have gotten a derlin drip tip (which is all I use now), some LR 501 attys, a 900mah battery (which I rotate with my original 650 mah) and a bunch of various flavors, mostly fruit and and a couple tobacco ones. I mostly stick with VG base just cause I heard it's better for vapor but I'm not too picky on which I use.

1) I want more. When I say that, I mean more vapors, more throat hit, more flavor, etc. I thought about going with the Ego T but as far as I can tell it's just a bigger cartridge which isn't a problem for me. I don't notice much of a difference between the 2 batteries so I don't think that should matter, and I did go to a LR atty versus the standard that came with it. Any suggestions?

2) I've tried 2 tobacco flavors, Turk & USA blend which is I really liked, and the standard Tobacco flavor, which wasn't as good but still happy with it. These are both VG with 24 mg of nic. Since I order from LF, and have to pay 20$ in shipping and wait 3 weeks (I live in Alberta, Canada) I'd like to buy enough to last me about a year, probably 4-5 30ml bottles. I'm looking for a tobacco that best replicated the taste of a real cigarette. I smoke DuMaurier, sometimes Belmonts and Peter Jacksons, if that means anything to anyone, any suggestions on the best stuff out there? What are your favorites?

Oh and one more thing, if I find liquid that leaked through my atty onto my battery, does it mean it's toast? Or does that only happen if I over-fill it? Cause I'm pretty sure I don't, or is it a defect?

Much thanks in advance for any advice...

Dekang Turk is probably your best choice...especially for the price. I found the tobacco flavors don't get any better even when paying more. The Turk has a sweetness to it that takes some getting used to. But I have come to like it.

However for non-tobacco flavors I think you get what you pay for. There are a lot of great coffees. There are a lot of good cherries.

HTH,
Dave