Questions About VV/ VW

[Koudotai]

Looking for help on what to get >_< I went from my Ego straight to mech mods and drip tanks but have been looking at VV/VW mods lately but don't know too much about them. I was looking at the MVP2, Vamo V5, Provari and REO Grand VV. Should I start with a cheaper starter type like the first two? Or go straight for the big boys? I vape at .3-.4 resistance for my sweet spot of flavor and vapor production but I've read that these devices can't go that low? Can I still obtain optimal flavor and vapor production on these devices? Which device would you think is best and why? (sell me on it essentially, haha) Thank you for any help

 

[EBates]

About 1.5 ohms is the cutoff for VV/VW. Below that the devices see a short and turn off.

Wife and I both have Vamo's
I have an evic
Wife has a Provari mini and a VTR

We love them all, so far the only difference has been the mod price

Never done a mech so can't compare for ya. Good luck with that

 

[Ryedan]

0.4 ohms on a mechanical mod is about 35 watts on a fresh battery. Do you want to stay at that power level?

 

[retic1959]

Looking for help on what to get >_< I went from my Ego straight to mech mods and drip tanks but have been looking at VV/VW mods lately but don't know too much about them. I was looking at the MVP2, Vamo V5, Provari and REO Grand VV. Should I start with a cheaper starter type like the first two? Or go straight for the big boys? I vape at .3-.4 resistance for my sweet spot of flavor and vapor production but I've read that these devices can't go that low? Can I still obtain optimal flavor and vapor production on these devices? Which device would you think is best and why? (sell me on it essentially, haha) Thank you for any help

You're gonna need a DNA 30 mod to get the results you're looking for , I'd look more to your choice of atty's to get the flavor you're looking for , such as a Kayfun or Aqua , you can still do subohm builds on those if you want but it's really not necessary , top a provari with one of those or a REO VV with an RM2 and you'll be set .

 

[Steam Turbine]

To get somewhat of the same performance than with your 0.3 coils (which I hope you are doing safely with the right battery) you will need something like a DNA 30 device. At this point, they are rare and expensive.

 

[Vwls]

Looking for help on what to get >_< I went from my Ego straight to mech mods and drip tanks but have been looking at VV/VW mods lately but don't know too much about them. I was looking at the MVP2, Vamo V5, Provari and REO Grand VV. Should I start with a cheaper starter type like the first two? Or go straight for the big boys? I vape at .3-.4 resistance for my sweet spot of flavor and vapor production but I've read that these devices can't go that low? Can I still obtain optimal flavor and vapor production on these devices? Which device would you think is best and why? (sell me on it essentially, haha) Thank you for any help

If you are vaping at .3 and .4 now, I'm a little worried that you are not familiar with what the regulated devices do and how they work. Forgive me, but this seems like a red flag - you need to have an extremely thorough understanding of ohms law, voltage, wattage, conductivity, etc in order to be vaping at that sub ohm level.

Please tell us what kind of batteries you are using now in your mech mods and what you do to check the resistance of your coils and check the safety of your mod and atty under load?

Now to your question - yes you should go straight to a Provari or a Reo Grand VV if a regulated device is truly what you want (better to spend the money now and have something that lasts). However, understand that you will not be able to sub ohm on those devices. The lowest my Provari goes is .8 - it won't fire at the resistance you say you like to vape at. Reo Grand - same deal - probably won't fire under an ohm. Maybe even 1.2.

There is no way you will be able to create the warm dense vaping experience of a .3 coil on a regulated device unless you buy a DNA 20 or DNA 30 device - on one of those you would be able to build at 1.5 ohms and adjust your wattage in the 20 to 30 range which would be the closest duplication of the sub ohm experience. Unfortunately, Provari and Reo don't come with DNA 20 or DNA 30 chips. (That would be so freaking awesome.)

 

[1wildman]

Remember that resistance is jut one factor. Don't think of it as a numbers game. There are many ways to get a good quality vape.


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[Koudotai]

Please tell us what kind of batteries you are using now in your mech mods and what you do to check the resistance of your coils and check the safety of your mod and atty under load?

I currently use the Efest IMR 18650 2500mah 35amp flat top batteries. I have a volt/ resistance meter that I test all my atomizers on before even attempting to fire it on my mods and use an Ohm's Law calculator for the Amps and Wattage check.

 

[Koudotai]

Remember that resistance is jut one factor. Don't think of it as a numbers game. There are many ways to get a good quality vape.


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Yes I understand there are many factors besides the resistance. I've read of and seen videos of people getting better vapor production (can't speak of taste from a video) with something like a 1.5 res than I am currently getting at sub ohm. Additionally I've read that once to get to "Reoville" and the VV/VW that there's no going back. So I'm trying to upgrade my current vaping experience and see if this is for me

 

[Koudotai]

0.4 ohms on a mechanical mod is about 35 watts on a fresh battery. Do you want to stay at that power level?

Not necessarily. Whatever can give me a great vape experience with these mods

 

[edyle]

Looking for help on what to get >_< I went from my Ego straight to mech mods and drip tanks but have been looking at VV/VW mods lately but don't know too much about them. I was looking at the MVP2, Vamo V5, Provari and REO Grand VV. Should I start with a cheaper starter type like the first two? Or go straight for the big boys? I vape at .3-.4 resistance for my sweet spot of flavor and vapor production but I've read that these devices can't go that low? Can I still obtain optimal flavor and vapor production on these devices? Which device would you think is best and why? (sell me on it essentially, haha) Thank you for any help

Well, if you vape at 0.3 ohm, on a 4 volt battery, that works out to 53 watts.

Presumably theres maybe something like 0.7 ohms additional resistance in the contacts and your really putting more like 20 watts to your coil.

I think you should go straight to the RBA forum, not the new members forum.

 

[Koudotai]

I think you should go straight to the RBA forum, not the new members forum.

I tried. A message popped up saying I don't have permission to post in any other forum.

Edit: I have over 60 posts but this is only my 4th topic so I'm not sure if it means I have to had made 5 threads when I mostly just post into already created threads.

 

[Vwls]

Sounds like you are sub ohming with safety, which is all I was concerned about.

I sub ohm myself and can give you my personal take on regulated versus mech mods. I have two Provaris and they are fine instruments that I highly recommend. However, once you fall in love with vaping at .3 - .4, I promise you won't be able to go back to standard vapor production. (In fact, I just sold one of my Provaris and I'm really only holding on to the last one out of a sense of romance.) If they made a mod with a DNA 30 chip in it that was truly beautiful, I would buy it and start building at 1.5 ohms. But they don't (yet), and there is no way I can be satisfied now at anything over a .7 coil (plus I'm partial to aesthetically stunning mods). For these reasons, I continue to sub ohm (with great attention to safety), and thus all my mods are mechs.

Maybe my experience can help you to save some money.

Now all that said, you could (should) still get yourself a bottom feeding mech mod, but at this point in time, Reo's are not designed for the heat and electrical stress of sub ohming. Soon the maker of the Reo line will be selling a Sub Ohm Upgrade Kit that will at least partially transform a Reo Grand mechanical into a sub ohm machine. So given your current vaping style, this is what I would recommend for you. It will give you the option to vape at .3 with the addition of bottom feeding... win win. The only thing is you'll have to wait a bit for the upgrade kit. I believe the release date is April.

Another option (although this option too will have you waiting) is to get on the Dibi list. Dibi's are amazing bottom feeding mods made from stabilized burl - they are actually designed for sub ohming! Pdib, the mod maker, is a sub ohmer himself and the craftsmanship on his work is outstanding. You can find out more about them here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-supplier-forum/511889-pdibs-making-mods.html.

Good luck my friend and keep on vapin'!

 

[edyle]

I tried. A message popped up saying I don't have permission to post in any other forum.

Edit: I have over 60 posts but this is only my 4th topic so I'm not sure if it means I have to had made 5 threads when I mostly just post into already created threads.

You're supposed to be able to post anywhere after 15 posts.

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[Koudotai]

Sounds like you are sub ohming with safety, which is all I was concerned about.

I sub ohm myself and can give you my personal take on regulated versus mech mods. I have two Provaris and they are fine instruments that I highly recommend. However, once you fall in love with vaping at .3 - .4, I promise you won't be able to go back to standard vapor production. (In fact, I just sold one of my Provaris and I'm really only holding on to the last one out of a sense of romance.) If they made a mod with a DNA 30 chip in it that was truly beautiful, I would buy it and start building at 1.5 ohms. But they don't (yet), and there is no way I can be satisfied now at anything over a .7 coil (plus I'm partial to aesthetically stunning mods). For these reasons, I continue to sub ohm (with great attention to safety), and thus all my mods are mechs.

Maybe my experience can help you to save some money.

Now all that said, you could (should) still get yourself a bottom feeding mech mod, but at this point in time, Reo's are not designed for the heat and electrical stress of sub ohming. Soon the maker of the Reo line will be selling a Sub Ohm Upgrade Kit that will at least partially transform a Reo Grand mechanical into a sub ohm machine. So given your current vaping style, this is what I would recommend for you. It will give you the option to vape at .3 with the addition of bottom feeding... win win. The only thing is you'll have to wait a bit for the upgrade kit. I believe the release date is April.

Another option (although this option too will have you waiting) is to get on the Dibi list. Dibi's are amazing bottom feeding mods made from stabilized burl - they are actually designed for sub ohming! Pdib, the mod maker, is a sub ohmer himself and the craftsmanship on his work is outstanding. You can find out more about them here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-supplier-forum/511889-pdibs-making-mods.html.

Good luck my friend and keep on vapin'!

Safety is always #1!! Every reckless sub-ohmer who blows off a finger is a bullet in the ANTZ gun.

This is the best answer I could have received. Though also disappointing since I was really looking into that Provari, but don't want to drop the money on that only to feel let down. :vape:

Those custom mods are a neat idea but I don't dig the wood/ box look. I like my rigs looking like lightsaber hilts haha.

 

[Koudotai]

You're supposed to be able to post anywhere after 15 posts.

Maybe it was just an error in the programming somewhere? 3/4 of my threads are in the general discussion. It was only when I tried to make this one that message popped up.

 

[Vwls]

Safety is always #1!! Every reckless sub-ohmer who blows off a finger is a bullet in the ANTZ gun.

This is the best answer I could have received. Though also disappointing since I was really looking into that Provari, but don't want to drop the money on that only to feel let down. :vape:

Those custom mods are a neat idea but I don't dig the wood/ box look. I like my rigs looking like lightsaber hilts haha.

I'm totally with you on the boxy look - I've never cared for it. But if you're going to get a bottom feeder and sub ohm, it's the only choice at the moment. I wish someone would invent a bottom feeding device that looks like my Caravela.