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TheSRV

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So I got my KTS mod today, I am using an IGO-W rba at .7ohms. The battery I have in it is an IMR18500 3.7v Li-Mn, 1100mah.

Everything was going great, vaping away, then all of a sudden...Battery dies, I put it on the charger, it has the green light indicating a full charge so I put it back in my KTS, and it will not fire AT ALL. Is my battery finished for good? Did I do something wrong? Can it be fixed? and what battery would you recommend for me to replace this one? I am missing a piece on the KTS so I can only fit up to an 18500.

Please help!

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Do you have an ohm meter to check the coil for shorts? A short will keep the mod from firing and could potentially kill the battery, especially if there's no short protection in the battery itself.

It's like firing on a regulated mod, a shorted coil won't fire, it'll just error out and until you find and fix the short, it'll continue to not fire.
 

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You don't say what brand battery... so I'll recommend the AW IMR. Second would be the EFest IMR.

I imagine you don't have a DMM (you really should if you're playing with sub-ohms and mechs), so you can't check actual battery voltage (or anything else for that matter)... which is a better way of determining battery condition than an idiot light. ;-)
 

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Do you have an ohm meter to check the coil for shorts? A short will keep the mod from firing and could potentially kill the battery, especially if there's no short protection in the battery itself.

It's like firing on a regulated mod, a shorted coil won't fire, it'll just error out and until you find and fix the short, it'll continue to not fire.

The KTS is a mech mod. I have one. If it's a regulated model TheSRV, let us know.
 

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Sorry, it is an Efest. It will charge now, but I don't think it's completely dead, I had it on the charger for 3 hours before vaping, the charger puts out 3.7v450mah. I mean, It was firing but just stopped, now it will charge, but I am still confused by this.

Edit:It is unregulated, and I don't know if it could be the juice blocking issue stated above. I will work on it and update you guys. I am not new to mods, just new to the KTS. That is why I am confused becauseI have never had issues with any other set-ups.
 
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Sorry, it is an Efest. It will charge now, but I don't think it's completely dead, I had it on the charger for 3 hours before vaping, the charger puts out 3.7v450mah. I mean, It was firing but just stopped, now it will charge, but I am still confused by this.
Buy a DMM... it's the easiest way for you to get "un-confused". ;-)
 

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Sorry, it is an Efest. It will charge now, but I don't think it's completely dead, I had it on the charger for 3 hours before vaping, the charger puts out 3.7v450mah. I mean, It was firing but just stopped, now it will charge, but I am still confused by this.

You haven't answered our questions. The details you have not told us are significant.
 
Do you have a DMM? If so, what voltage are you taking out the batt?

I do not have one at home unfortunately. I know I don't have a lot of the info, I just needed as much as I could get with what I have. I will try what I can tonight and check everything else tomorrow. Thanks for all the information you guys could give me without very much from myself. I do know that the atty is fine, it works on my other mod. I have just never experienced behavior from a battery like this before and I am under equipped to handle this at the moment lol
 

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Got it TheSRV. If you let the voltage drop below about 2.5V your battery could be toast if your charger can't handle bringing it back to life. Doing this a lot will also lower the number of cycles you'll get from it. I know usually you can tell when the batt gets low, but with a fresh RBA setup I have occasionally run mine down to ~2.7 before I realized it. Best of luck with it :thumb:
 
I think the charger may have not been charging it fully. I just had to fix part of the connection on the charger to the battery and it seems to be charging normally now. I'll post an update and more info tomorrow. Thanks everyone! At least I know what to do now!

Edit:I didn't think of that! That may be it, a long with the fact that my charger was not quite right! We will see what happens!
 
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Don't get too frustrated SRV... your sort of post is nothing new here.

We tend to get frustrated (especially as the evening wears on and some have responded to 4-5 of this type of post already) because of the number of threads like this.
The OP has a problem, has limited to no knowledge of their equipment and/or no way of providing all valuable measurements. No DMM... no insight into what could be the problem in the first place.

If everyone with a mech and/or a low to sub-ohm atty was required to learn basic electrical theory as well as buy a DMM and learn how to use it... a substantial number of this sort of post would cease to exist.

That might be a bad thing... some of us would have a lot less to do in the evenings. ;-)

Cheers...
 

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Not sure of this is true, correct me if I'm wrong but I heard its best to run 18650 battery with low/sub ohm set up. But with that aside, I've had a similar problem. I was running a .7 ohm single coil on my nimbus and king mod and all of a sudden it stopped. I kept firing but nothing. Turns out I had a short. I adjusted the coils a little and it worked again. Hope this helps.
 

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SHorts are no joke. I had an A7 RDA unexpectedly short out on me. After working beautifully for 4+ hours with a 1.8 ohm coil it just suddenly shorted bad enough to cause the heat spring in my REO to collapse. That is a pretty dangerous thing.

Please Please Please make sure you know what ohms you are vaping, what volts your battery is at and what Amps the battery can take sustained before you fire it up.

Ohm's Law Calculator is an indispensable tool.
Put in the ohms of the atty and the volts of the battery and it will tell you the amps it needs. Then compare that number to what the battery can take sustained. You want what you are demanding of the battery to be LESS than what the battery can take with some margin for safety.

These batterys we use can vent violently and quickly. I would hate to see anyone get hurt.
 
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