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I have never rebuilt anything but would like to learn. I have several protanks and have rewicked them but have never built a coil. I want to learn to do this BUT I want to learn the right way and safety is first. I do know there are many YouTube videos etc. but how does someone know which ones to trust? I would love to sit down with someone that is educated in this and learn from them but I don't know anyone in the area that does this. I do have a couple of B&M in the area but with what I had read I'm not sure I trust them either. What suggestions do you have for someone wanting to learn?
 

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I'm not the pro. I'm a novice. If you are "Model Specific" it will make it easier for the folks who CAN help you. I was helped so much it amazed me. Good people abound and MOST won't go to "micro coils" and "nano coils" from the start. They are a whole different animal IMHO.

A "search" using atomizer name and "coils" should help too.

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Get an IGO-L, some 30 ga Kanthal and some sterile cotton. Search for microcoils on the forum, which will give you a ton of info.

Be sure to use the ohmmeter on your MVP to check your builds resistance. I had good luck to start shooting for 1.8 ohms.

I used the IGO-L and MVP combo to try dripping and rebuilding, and found it to be an inexpensive and easy way to learn.
 

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Get an IGO-L, some 30 ga Kanthal and some sterile cotton. Search for microcoils on the forum, which will give you a ton of info.

Be sure to use the ohmmeter on your MVP to check your builds resistance. I had good luck to start shooting for 1.8 ohms.

I used the IGO-L and MVP combo to try dripping and rebuilding, and found it to be an inexpensive and easy way to learn.

This is NOT helpful!
I have NEVER built a coil before and you are telling me to search micro coils??? Seriously? This is why so many people get into trouble trying to learn things when people give advice like this. Sorry, I will not be doing this.
 

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This is NOT helpful!
I have NEVER built a coil before and you are telling me to search micro coils??? Seriously? This is why so many people get into trouble trying to learn things when people give advice like this. Sorry, I will not be doing this.

chill. actually it was helpful but you missed his point.

you want to build coils for Protanks? fine. but learning how to build on a cheap dripper will be easier, faster, much less expensive and far less frustrating.

think about it. you mess up your first builds on a dripper and you're out a minute or two, and 4 drops of juice. mess up on a protank and you may be banging your head against a wall.

i have old man eyes and for all intents and purposes one hand. i can make micro coils on a dripper all day long. i haven't used Protanks in a long while but they seemed much more hassle to get right. and micro coils are actually the easiest type of coil to get consistent results on, imho, even tho i sometimes build standard coils.
 

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chill. actually it was helpful but you missed his point.

you want to build coils for Protanks? fine. but learning how to build on a cheap dripper will be easier, faster, much less expensive and far less frustrating.

think about it. you mess up your first builds on a dripper and you're out a minute or two, and 4 drops of juice. mess up on a protank and you may be banging your head against a wall.

i have old man eyes and for all intents and purposes one hand. i can make micro coils on a dripper all day long. i haven't used Protanks in a long while but they seemed much more hassle to get right. and micro coils are actually the easiest type of coil to get consistent results on, imho, even tho i sometimes build standard coils.

You could be right but I have no idea. As I said "for Beginners". I do not have a dripper so are you saying to learn to build coils I need to first buy a dripper and start with micro coils?
 

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You could be right but I have no idea. As I said "for Beginners". I do not have a dripper so are you saying to learn to build coils I need to first buy a dripper and start with micro coils?

i just think the dripper would make it easier to learn is all. if nothing else keep it in the back of your mind as an option if you get frustrated starting to build for pts.

standard versus micro is probably more personal preference. i just find with micros i almost never have to worry about hot legs and the vape is better. nothing wrong with standard coils tho and they might be easier for new rebuilders to get started.
 

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I agree with Mama, I find micro-coils to be more hassle free to build because they tend to get less hotspots, hot legs, and you wrap them on a solid object as opposed to trying to wrap directly on your wick. Micros aren't any harder to learn for beginners than standard coils, as a beginner you should really focus on learning ohms law and how it relates to the batteries we are using.

Are you going to be using these rebuilds on that MVP or a mechanical? Because your MVP has built-in safety measures to protect you from hard shorts and low resistances.
 

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This is NOT helpful!
I have NEVER built a coil before and you are telling me to search micro coils??? Seriously? This is why so many people get into trouble trying to learn things when people give advice like this. Sorry, I will not be doing this.

Being honest there is not much difference in the principals of a regular coil and a micro coil but I can understand being intimidated by a micro.

Here is how I do basic protank and evod heads without a micro coil.

I take a length of 2.5-3 mm silica wick. I unbend a large paperclip and hold it with the wick. the thick wire of the paperclip will keeep me from wrapping too tightly. I take a length of 32 gauge kanthal wire. I heat the wire with a flame (lighter) moving across it's length until I have heated every part along the way to red color (this is annealing the wire). Not all red at once but each part has been red. :) I make 5 wraps around the wick and paperclip and make sure both tails are pointing down.

I leave the paperclip in for the next part htat keeps me from yanking the coil too far down into the head while I lock the legs in place. I thread the 2 legs into the base. then I thread the rubber bottom grommet onto one leg.BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO CROSS THE LEGS INSIDE THE HEAD. Push the grommet in place. SO one leg is trapped between the head body and the grommet and one is through the hole in the chenter of the grommet. Then bend the leg that is through the center of the grommet to the side and push in the bottom pin. This traps the 2nd leg between the grommet and bottom pin.

Trim the legs off flush and slip the paperclip out of the coil.

Add flavor wicks on top if desired (I use 2 single plys of silica wick).

Put on the top chimney part.

Trim the wicks.

Screw the head into the base piece and test the ohms. It should come out 1.5-2.0 ohm depending on how tightly you wrapped it.
 

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I have never rebuilt anything but would like to learn. I have several protanks and have rewicked them but have never built a coil. I want to learn to do this BUT I want to learn the right way and safety is first. I do know there are many YouTube videos etc. but how does someone know which ones to trust? I would love to sit down with someone that is educated in this and learn from them but I don't know anyone in the area that does this. I do have a couple of B&M in the area but with what I had read I'm not sure I trust them either. What suggestions do you have for someone wanting to learn?

Rip Trippers is a good one on youtube to learn how to rebuild coils.
 

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I agree with Mama, I find micro-coils to be more hassle free to build because they tend to get less hotspots, hot legs, and you wrap them on a solid object as opposed to trying to wrap directly on your wick. Micros aren't any harder to learn for beginners than standard coils, as a beginner you should really focus on learning ohms law and how it relates to the batteries we are using.

Are you going to be using these rebuilds on that MVP or a mechanical? Because your MVP has built-in safety measures to protect you from hard shorts and low resistances.

I will be using the rebuilds on a variety of things. MVP, Provari and also have some regular 650 evod batteries. I tend to have lots of things going at any given time.
 

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The easiest way to learn and the cheapest. One trident clone, something to check ohms if not on your pvd, wire 30ga, and cotton balls, a small screwdriver, nail clips, pair of teasers, 3/32 drill bit, scissors. Watch youtube to you are comfortable to try it yourself. In week after starting you be wondering why you stressed about it so much. I would start with a 1.7 ohm single coil till you are ready to move on. The reason for using a dripper is you got plenty of room to work with compared to the protank. Even with a single coil build you will plenty of vapor and flavor you may just give them protanks away.
 

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Being honest there is not much difference in the principals of a regular coil and a micro coil but I can understand being intimidated by a micro.

Here is how I do basic protank and evod heads without a micro coil.

I take a length of 2.5-3 mm silica wick. I unbend a large paperclip and hold it with the wick. the thick wire of the paperclip will keeep me from wrapping too tightly. I take a length of 32 gauge kanthal wire. I heat the wire with a flame (lighter) moving across it's length until I have heated every part along the way to red color (this is annealing the wire). Not all red at once but each part has been red. :) I make 5 wraps around the wick and paperclip and make sure both tails are pointing down.

I leave the paperclip in for the next part htat keeps me from yanking the coil too far down into the head while I lock the legs in place. I thread the 2 legs into the base. then I thread the rubber bottom grommet onto one leg.BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO CROSS THE LEGS INSIDE THE HEAD. Push the grommet in place. SO one leg is trapped between the head body and the grommet and one is through the hole in the chenter of the grommet. Then bend the leg that is through the center of the grommet to the side and push in the bottom pin. This traps the 2nd leg between the grommet and bottom pin.

Trim the legs off flush and slip the paperclip out of the coil.

Add flavor wicks on top if desired (I use 2 single plys of silica wick).

Put on the top chimney part.

Trim the wicks.

Screw the head into the base piece and test the ohms. It should come out 1.5-2.0 ohm depending on how tightly you wrapped it.


thank you,,,,,,I have been considering this as well, and this is very helpful. thanks for typing all that.
 
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