Recoiled my first Aspire Nautilus head

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Just did my first nautilus head recoil. I followed Rip Trippers video of the build and was surprised at how easy it was. This is my 2nd coil build ever. The first was my Trident clone that arrived in vapemail today with a roll of 28ga kanthal. And that build, my first went great too.

This build went just like the video, took 10 minutes total. Of course I watched his video 3 times... that took a while. But overall I'm really surprised at how easy it was even for a noob. I ended up with a 1.4ohm coil and I'm still trying to figure out what voltage would be best, I started at 3.2v and I'm going to up it a bit and see how that goes. Vapor production is better than the stock head, but nothing like the video at Rip Trippers. I think there must be a vaping technique to getting clouds, but that really doesn't matter much to me. I do like the flavor with this single coil build with cotton though. The flavor is really, really good and that's what it's all about to me.

Now it just remains to be seen how it lasts. I haven't actually had a head go bad yet in the Nautilus. I just rebuilt the head in my most used tank to see how it went. And since I just got my microtorch, tweezers, cotton, nail clippers, and all the assorted tools to build the Trident I figured what the heck and gave it a try.

If anyone is wondering if they can do a Nautilus head... go for it. It was really easy and I'm very pleased with the results. And I'm sure it will only get better as I get more experience.

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Awesome and congrats.
I started with an aspire bdc ce5 and loved it went to the Trident clone started building coils and loved the flavor and vice it but out with a single nano dragon coil at 1.2 ohm.
I've been looking at the nautilus alot trying to decide if I would like it or if I should just stick with the Trident with my aspires as backups. Are you happy with it? Any complaints?

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Just did my first Nautilus head recoil. I followed Rip Trippers video of the build and was surprised at how easy it was. This is my 2nd coil build ever. The first was my Trident clone that arrived in vapemail today with a roll of 28ga kanthal. And that build, my first went great too.

This build went just like the video, took 10 minutes total. Of course I watched his video 3 times... that took a while. But overall I'm really surprised at how easy it was even for a noob. I ended up with a 1.4ohm coil and I'm still trying to figure out what voltage would be best, I started at 3.2v and I'm going to up it a bit and see how that goes. Vapor production is better than the stock head, but nothing like the video at Rip Trippers. I think there must be a vaping technique to getting clouds, but that really doesn't matter much to me. I do like the flavor with this single coil build with cotton though. The flavor is really, really good and that's what it's all about to me.

Now it just remains to be seen how it lasts. I haven't actually had a head go bad yet in the Nautilus. I just rebuilt the head in my most used tank to see how it went. And since I just got my microtorch, tweezers, cotton, nail clippers, and all the assorted tools to build the Trident I figured what the heck and gave it a try.

If anyone is wondering if they can do a Nautilus head... go for it. It was really easy and I'm very pleased with the results. And I'm sure it will only get better as I get more experience.

'scuse me while I have another vape.
Congratulations... I too, have found the same experience in building the single coil for the Nautilus to be simple...
and extremely rewarding... and going even further... I've gone on to build simple single coils the exact same way
in the Aspire BDC (bottom dual coils) ... instead of trying to make the dual coil set ups ..and have found great
success in doing so... they work just great!

Edit: I might add... I used 28ga wire with 8 wraps for 1.7 thru 1.9 ohm
 
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Congratulations... I too, have found the same experience in building the single coil for the Nautilus to be simple...
and extremely rewarding... and going even further... I've gone on to build simple single coils the exact same way
in the Aspire BDC (bottom dual coils) ... instead of trying to make the dual coil set ups ..and have found great
success in doing so... they work just great!

Edit: I might add... I used 28ga wire with 8 wraps for 1.7 thru 1.9 ohm

I wrote that post quite a while ago and have since changed the way I rebuild this tank considerably. I found Rip Trippers video a great starting place for building this head, but had some significant issues with longevity, juice wicking, and couldn't be dry burned. I did 28 different builds over the next 2 weeks (on just 2 heads I used for testing, so multiple builds are not a problem with these heads) and now have a build I am very satisfied with that lasts great, wicks great, and can be dry burned easily. If anyone is interested I will write something up.
 

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First of all I'd like to say I'm grateful that Rip Trippers did the Nautilus head build to show me the basic steps to rebuilding the head. OK... so here are the problems I encountered with the Rip's Nautilus coil rebuild. It worked great for a while as long as I never exceeded the voltage the cotton wick could handle, and if I exceeded it one time it burned and had to be rebuilt. I also couldn't chain vape because it couldn't keep up with enough juice flow... once again burning the cotton. The head couldn't be dry burned to clean off the gunk from my favorite 40/60 PG/VG juice which is a popular juice from Epic Juices and an all day vape for me. Gunked up after a few tanks. The position of the coil in the head meant building a new coil to change the wick. There was just no way to remove the coil and reinsert it after re-wicking because the leads were too short after the initial build and clipping the excess off the wires. There was just no way to reinsert the same coil and get the 2 leads back in the original position before inserting the pin through the rubber grommet. At least for my skills.

So here are the results after 28 builds and learning a bit.

Coil Position:
This was the biggest problem with Rips build. He set the coil in the same place as the original upper coil. This didn't work for me. I have decided that the lower coil and wick MUST be in place to wick juice to the lower coil before the juice can be wicked to the upper coil location adequately. Think of it as a juice relay from the bottom coil to the top coil. The answer is surprisingly simple though. Put the new single micro coil in the same location as the original LOWER coil so it can wick the juice without going dry after chain vaping 4 or 5 hits (and of course burning the cotton). Huge difference, but just as easy to build. Even with cotton this is a dramatic improvement. Just make sure the coil goes to the bottom of the lower coil channel so that the wicks sit right at the bottom of the channel in the outer polyfil sleeve... just like the original lower coil did. The wicks need to touch the bottom edge of the channel to really wick well. Sounds finicky, but isn't at all. You can look through the bottom of the head since the pin isn't in yet and see exactly where it is and adjust it by pushing or pulling the wire leads coming out the bottom. Wicks juice great, even 100% VG like Boba's Bounty. Oh... and while you're here, once the coil is where you want it bend over one lead to the side of the head and that will hold the coil in place while you install the rubber grommet and the pin (this will be the ground/negative lead). This makes sure the coil won't move. Rip made it look like you have to be really careful here, but by bending the one wire the coil will not move and no extra caution is needed to insert the grommet and pin. Just slap it together.

Wick Material:
Cotton wicks well but is just too fragile if it can't be changed without pulling the coil... and I haven't figured out how to pull the coil and reinsert. This meant recoiling just to rewick. I tried 2mm and 3mm silica (3mm being best for me) and the wicking was fine although the flavor was a bit muted, but still couldn't sustain a good dry burn without getting damaged. It might work if you have the patience to dry burn very slowly, but patience is not one of my more prominent virtues. I have settled on 2mm Ekowool (which is really 3m OD since the measurement of this material reflects ID). This works really, really well. The flavor is on par with cotton IMO, and has the advantage of being able to dry burn like a ..... To test this I boiled the head for 20 minutes (after gunking with several tanks of 100% VG juice...Boba's) and dried for 5 minutes with a hobby heat gun, then dry burned until the coil glowed red over the entire surface 20 times in a row, starting from a completely non-glowing coil each time... not just pulsing. These were 5 to 10 second burns...each burn. I didn't need to dry burn this much, but wanted to see if I could destroy the Ekowool. Total overkill on dry burning. The Ekowool is fine and looks white as new. Then I took a small artists paint brush and brushed of the ash from the coil, blew it out, and it looked great and fired perfect. Understand I couldn't brush the bottom of the coil, but it is firing great so that is good for me. Juice wicking is really good. After 2 or so hits I can always see bubbles rising to the top of the tank... just as it should.

Coil Build:
Build whatever coil you like, just realize you are constrained by the width of the head you are putting it in. You do not want the coil touching the polyfil sleeve around the outside. I use 28ga kanthal around a 2mm bit and have built with 5/6 to 8/9 wraps (pinched micro coils) and all worked well. The 5/6 wrap ohmed out to 1.25ohms and the 8/9 wrap ohmed out to 1.68ohms. I am currently using the 8/9 wrap and vape my juice at 4.2v on my Provari, so naturally you are going to see much better vapor production with higher voltage. And the juice flows really well, so it's not a hot vape either. I could never vape above 3.6v with cotton without burning. I don't recommend higher than 2mm bit for wrapping the coil so you have adequate airflow around the coil. Going bigger seems to restrict airflow some. Might just be me, but that's what I noticed. You could go smaller if you prefer though. I build the coil like a regular micro and thread the Ekowool (or silica if you decide to use that) after the fact. Before inserting I torch the Ekowool for about 30 seconds which hardens it a bit and keeps it from fraying and cut a small angle on the tip. It also burns off any contaminants if there are any. Then I get it nice and wet on the end and shape it into a point and twist it counterclockwise through the coil. Goes in very easily. Clip each side just a tiny bit wider than the diameter of the head and with your finger nail fluff either side a bit so it expands and feels very soft to the touch. That's it for the coil build. Just insert in the head and reassemble.

Final Thoughts:
I'm sure people more experienced with builds could make some recommendations that would improve this more, but I feel this performs much better than the stock head. For me the vapor production is much better and the flavor is excellent. Not RDA excellent (got to stay realistic) but the same flavor as my KayFun, which is my benchmark right now for flavor in a tank. Plus, I can dry burn the coil... big plus for me.

I have run these builds on my Neme also. Since my target is voltage is 4.2v, the Neme runs this tank great. It doesn't really perform any different than it does on the Provari, but it looks great since the Neme is a 22mm mech and so is the Nautilus and tends to draw a bit of attention.

Added bonus. I have 3 Nautilus tanks now. I left one stock and drilled out the other tanks largest holes to 3/32 and 7/64. The stock is just under 1/16. The new build wicks juice great even with the 7/64 hole tank with no dry hits or flavor muting and the vapor production is improved quite a bit (vapor production with the stock head is still very good, but this is really a big improvement if you're looking for more vapor). This tank will handle more airflow quite nicely and if you're looking for more open lung hits, this will really surprise you. And the best thing is it leaves the other 3 settings exactly as they were with no changes. If you decide to do this use a new quality (titanium) drill bit and feed the drill press slowly so you don't wind up with a jagged edge at the top of the bore making it very difficult to turn the AFC ring. I did that on the first hole I drilled and spent the next 15 minutes with a small channel lock on the AFC ring working the ring back and forth to clear the sharp edge of shavings around the inside hole. It turned out fine and the ring moves perfectly now, but thought I would pass on my mistake. There is plenty of room on the base to drill even bigger, but I'm happy with it for now.
 

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...I just abandoned my aerotank and i have a Nautilus and Trident that i plan on recoiling(never done before) with a k-100 mech on the way, for the nautilus, great explanation, i will try to combine rip and yours together for the same results! Also, what battery, materials and type of coil did you use for your trident? My head wont stop spinning with ohms law and these RBA's, so many variaitons on type of battery, size of kanthal, types of coils, and wicks and what voltage works best with what resistance...endless research..endless frustration...lol
 

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Wanting to build a 1.4 or 1.2Ω atomizer for my Nautilus, and having the original 1.6Ω head badly clogged by a home-made juice —which as owners surely know, are next to impossible to properly clean– I looked once again at the "NAUTILUS MICROCOIL - REBUILD" video and set to it. While (not so gently) pulling the resistances I managed to snag, and subsequently pull out the inner "castle tower cup" and to my surprise and chagrin, what I thought would be a piece of plastic or ceramic, was just a woven fibre tube which I had a veritable nightmare getting back into place.

Eventually, I managed my rebuild which came out not at 1.4 as I intended but fortunately at 1.2Ω. So far so good; the cotton wick is doing wonders and the lower resistance is giving me wonderful taste, if in reality I should have used a different wire and get more turns on the coil. I feel the width of it is too small.

So, was I mistaken believing that the "cup" was something more solid? The videos -all- gave e that impression but youtube macros are really difficult and then it's so tiny an area that it should be impossible to properly say.

On the other hand, do you think there's a way to add some kind of "flavor wick" to the build and would it add to the performance?

Thanks for your opinions.
 

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In the BDC series, the filler looks like paper towel material. I tried some pieces of that but got frustrated trying to keep it in place and get the cap back on. Took it out and they work fine. I'm using cotton for wick so that might make a difference as well as mix and method of vaping.

I read somewhere to use pg to wet the filler to get it to stick in place. This is for the filler on the outside, unlike the Nat.
 

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the filler looks like paper towel material. I tried some pieces of that but got frustrated trying to keep it in place and get the cap back on. Took it out and they work fine.
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I read somewhere to use pg to wet the filler to get it to stick in place. This is for the filler on the outside, unlike the Nat.

Paul, many thanks for the tip. This weekend I'll try to steady my hands and wrap a paper towel cylinder around a new coil. I saw that the leads of the original micro coils are insulated and maybe if I use some insulator from a slightly thicker cable, put a pair of pieces on the wire ends before doing the coil and then place a small ring cut from an even thicker cable insulator to prop things up and avoid collapsing. Then pull the whole assembly in the head housing.


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If it works (at all <vbg>) I'll make a video. Maybe it will become more popular than the RIP Trippers one... :D

Update:

You might have figured by now I'm a tinkerer of sorts but also a scrounger. I save practically every little bit of material that I have an inkling it may eventually serve me. Just after I typed the above message I started rummaging through my desk and came out with a length of heath shrink tubing about 6.5mm in ext. dia. Pulled a spare Nautilus head from my mod case and with a caliper measured it to be a little over 7mm interior dia. Since the head is still in it's wrapping I don't have the exact dimensions but certainly tomorrow I'll be experimenting with it. I just hope the heath of the coil is not enough to shrink the G.D. tube!

Update #2:

Googling for heath shrink tube, I came up with this material. It seems that if I get a steel form (read pin) of the correct size and then shrink the 1/4" tube over it, I would get the base for the support of a coil assembly. Then It would be a rather simple matter of wrapping enough wicking material —I'm thinking clinical sterile gauze around the tube and the coil leads and just pull the whole thing in the housing. This would open a universe of possibilities to us Nautilus puffers!

Tonight I've got a dinner at some friends' place but I cannot wait till tomorrow to try the idea. The only matter is the tubing I've got is not intended for medical applications as the high temp one I linked so I'm a bit reluctant of actually puffing on the contraption until I'm convinced it's not reacting with anything or I can get my hands on the safe one if the building process proves feasible. ;-)
 
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Many thanks, Paul! That kind of tip will come handy tomorrom whan I'm dealing with the new project. What do you think of the reinforcement inner tube addition and the material selection? I'd like to find something thinner and more stable, chemically speaking. Unfortunately aluminum foil wouldn't have the necessary strength. I'm going to browse around and see what I can find; maybe a snip from a beverage can formed around a suitable pin? It would short the leads of course unless I insulate them... Hmmmm!
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Added bonus. I have 3 Nautilus tanks now. I left one stock and drilled out the other tanks largest holes to 3/32 and 7/64. The stock is just under 1/16. The new build wicks juice great even with the 7/64 hole tank with no dry hits or flavor muting and the vapor production is improved quite a bit (vapor production with the stock head is still very good, but this is really a big improvement if you're looking for more vapor). This tank will handle more airflow quite nicely and if you're looking for more open lung hits, this will really surprise you. And the best thing is it leaves the other 3 settings exactly as they were with no changes. If you decide to do this use a new quality (titanium) drill bit and feed the drill press slowly so you don't wind up with a jagged edge at the top of the bore making it very difficult to turn the AFC ring. I did that on the first hole I drilled and spent the next 15 minutes with a small channel lock on the AFC ring working the ring back and forth to clear the sharp edge of shavings around the inside hole. It turned out fine and the ring moves perfectly now, but thought I would pass on my mistake. There is plenty of room on the base to drill even bigger, but I'm happy with it for now.[/QUOTE]

I did not even think to drill out the holes. And I am usually first to grab the drill with any tank I get. I just been wrapped up in building coils...no pun intended...ha I don't have my Nautilus in front of me, but do I need to remove anything when I drill my hole(s) or do I just drill in to the center from any one of the existing holes?
 

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I've got so many like new Nautilus coils that were defective right out of the box. I wish I had someone to rebuild them for me for a few bucks. I'm not into that yet and am still a little intimidated by it honestly. I love the Nautilus but haven't been able to use it lately because I can't afford to keep throwing money away on defective coils hoping I get a good one.

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