Regulated Parallel Box Mod?

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NancyR

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Good for you.

With thousands of people changing batteries 100's of times a year in parallel-batt setups, how many 'incidents' per year will there be ?

Dual indepent bay chargers are common and not expensive, so to me it's worth it to buy independent bay parallel-batt mods. I guess it will just take Darwin a little longer before we see it.

The point being all it takes it paying attention to what you are doing, which you should be doing anyways.

We disagree about the first. Each battery has a certain amount of storage and a well-designed mod drains both of them evenly. Thus you get the mAh in both cells until you get a low voltage condition on the chip, no matter if it is series or parallel. I do agree it is possible to overload the batteries-- the chip does not know the R rating of the batteries you have installed-- but this only means you must use batteries of the specified amp loading. In any event, please yourself. I know of no mods approaching anything near 100 watts that are parallel. I also don't know of any mod regulation boards that will function to 100 W on 3.7 V. I guess, if you want a parallel box, you could build one with a DNA 200W board using three pairs of batteries in parallel, and series the pairs to make the 11 volts required.

You've been shown one as the stick 100 watt seems to be parallel. Any series set up does not drain the cells evenly, is why it is important to rotate the cells in which is in top position.
 

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The point being all it takes it paying attention to what you are doing, which you should be doing anyways.



You've been shown one as the stick 100 watt seems to be parallel. Any series set up does not drain the cells evenly, is why it is important to rotate the cells in which is in top position.
Then your question is answered. Get an iStick.
 

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Ok, just to make things clear since this thread appears to be full of a lot of misconceptions and a lack of understanding of electrical circuits and ohm’s law (not a suggestion).



Series = double voltage, single cell mAh, single cell amps. This is a fact, I don’t care how you feel it may last longer than your other set ups, how you use that double voltage default, single cell mAh and amps is up to you but it’s a fact that this is what you get by pushing the voltage of one cell through the other. There is no contradictory perspective that will change this fact. Can you make your super low ohm build last longer with this than you can a single cell, boosted voltage circuit, yes, you of course can because the load is being taken off the cell/s and chip in doing the boost but it is still single cell mAh and amps.



Parallel = Single cell voltage, double mAh and double amps. Advantage here is more mAh and more amps to play with. Could you do over 75 watts with this set up? Yes, of course you could but you would be relegated to doing so on a mech because sadly no one makes chips specifically designed to boost voltage in this manner for vaping at this time. Is there an advantage to doing it this way with an existing 75watt or less board, yes! Because more mAh means even with a silly low ohm build, it will last longer.



Efficiency of the chip is a factor in all of this of course, every one of them has a middle ground for maximum efficiency at the highest watt setting. From here you have the most freedom to take your watts up or down, tailoring things to your preferred draw and flavor of the liquid being used. All chips have a maximum amp they can pull, as such, a minimum spec of battery that must be used with it (the constant amp output, not the darn pulse). Demands of this are based on the amp load of the ohm it can handle and the basic demands of the chip to do what it is doing. In that respect, whether series or parallel, the circuit has its amperage requirements when it comes to cell/s used with it.

How much you vape is the biggest factor in this as a chain vaper vs someone who doesn’t vape as often will see their cell life span be drastically shorter than the other because they don’t activate the circuit as often. You can try counting mls of juice burned through a day to measure this but unless someone does their set up exactly the same as you, from RBA used, draw, gauge of wire, ohm, device, liquid and watts setting, comparing one vaper’s battery life to another is utterly pointless.

The iStick 100 is a series device, not a parallel one, please don’t confuse that, anyone, nor let any “new” vaper pick one up, please. Personal educated choice is an informed risk taken by an individual in doing what they’re doing. Putting a series device for vaping, putting massive amp load, low ohm coil builds on them for that new vaper to hold up to their face with no knowledge of cell pairing, rotation or charging regime is just plain irresponsible and the dire potential results of doing so have caused personal injuries through the years of vaping thus far and seen at least one business I know be forced to close down due to a spurious law suit on the part of the injured party. This was back before regulated chips that will yes, protect the user in the event of many failures but all things can fail, including the protection against doing so and what can stop your cells from failing isn’t merely the brain in the device you have them in, it’s also how you use them and charge them that can cause a massive half life of their capacity, chemistry and stability.

Lastly, were it not for shoddy RBA designs with massive chambers, there wouldn’t be any experimentation of anything even approaching 100 watt going on in vaping but sadly too many RBA designers don’t understand physics or ohm’s law and as such, make stuff that is pretty externally and internally is just about the same as all other crap on the market bar different post designs that merely exploit the desires of instagram coil builders to expand their canvas horizons and opportunities to waste an abundance of kanthal but hey, they look pretty :p
 

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OP, I have the Eleaf 100W and it's a decent box for the price point. There is really no menu to speak of but it does it's job nicely and for a dual 18560 isn't a bad size. I have two of the DNA40 Vapor flasks and both perform well, give you the option of temp limiting and pocket nicely. The price point has come way down so you get a little more value for the money you spend.

If you can hold off a bit the Vapor Flask group is getting ready to release the SX350J flask and it will also have temp limiting. It's a nice chip, I also have a couple.

You can reach out for Perry at Varitube, he is doing some cool dual 18650 and building them to order but his are series, you may be able to ask him to build you a parallel box. They are custom boxes and no two are a like. I own one, pretty nice and the hold the SX350J chip.

All these are parallel and one possibly could be if Varitube isn't done with their builds.

Good luck..... and now back to your regularly scheduling arguing.
 
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and why is that? i'm newer to the vaping scene and all I know is a want a parallel box mod with variable wattage lol

Everyone is helping here but I guess I would think the question would be to the OP...why do you want this type of mod??? Newer to vaping yet wants a parallel box mod for what reasons? If people new why, that could help you with the what's better. Just a thought..
 

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Series = double voltage, single cell mAh, single cell amps. This is a fact, I don’t care how you feel it may last longer than your other set ups, how you use that double voltage default, single cell mAh and amps is up to you but it’s a fact that this is what you get by pushing the voltage of one cell through the other. There is no contradictory perspective that will change this fact. Can you make your super low ohm build last longer with this than you can a single cell, boosted voltage circuit, yes, you of course can because the load is being taken off the cell/s and chip in doing the boost but it is still single cell mAh and amps.

Parallel = Single cell voltage, double mAh and double amps. Advantage here is more mAh and more amps to play with. Could you do over 75 watts with this set up? Yes, of course you could but you would be relegated to doing so on a mech because sadly no one makes chips specifically designed to boost voltage in this manner for vaping at this time. Is there an advantage to doing it this way with an existing 75watt or less board, yes! Because more mAh means even with a silly low ohm build, it will last longer.

Once you have a voltage regulator in the circuit it doesn't matter if dual batteries are in series or parallel. Two 30 amp batteries will safely produce 150 watts weather they are wired in series or parallel. They will also run for very close to the same length of time in both circuits, the difference between them being due to varying efficiency in the two setups.

From Steam Engine:

Dual parallel at 150 watts using 2500 mAh batteries at 3.7V battery output: Batteries combine and make 3.7V and 5000 mAh. Combined battery drain is 45.05A which is 22.5 for each battery (parallel) and it will give you around 7 minutes total run time.

Dual series at 150 watts using 2500 mAh batteries at 3.7V battery output: Batteries combine and make 7.4V and 2500 mAh. Combined battery drain is 22.5A which is 22.5 for each battery (series) and it will give you around 7 minutes total run time.
 
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