I gave my sister a MVP2 recently to get off of analogs and it's been working great. But I know once they die, they just have to be replaced. When that happens, I am going to have to replace it for her and cannot wait on USPS/UPS to deliver because she'll need it right away. The local B&M has MVP2's for $80, which isn't completely unreasonable...I know they want to make a profit. But they also have Nemesis mech clones for $45 and AW batteries for under $10. What's the life of a mech? Is it solely dependent upon the life of the battery? I know it's just a battery tube, but with a fire button. I just want something reliable and affordable where batteries can be replaced so that the whole piece isn't junk when it finally dies. Any suggestions?
Reliability + Affordable
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Life of Mech = depends on quality of the mech and the person taking care of the Mech....meaning cleaning the tubes, cleaning the contacts, etc..Nolax the threads, etc
With Mech also, you have to do your homework on battery safety, ohm's law, customize your toppers, to match the voltage/resistance,amp of the battery...I would really suggest before you enter the world of mechs, do more reading ....I love my mechs..but somebody who is happy with MVP 2.0, it might not be the right way to go. You will also need two good quality batteries, while one is in use, the other one is in being charged (high quality charger)
BTW..$45.00 for Nemmy clone..it better be at least HCigar verison.
Plan B...while she is happy vaping away on MVP 2.0, do more research on regulated Mod, like Innokin VV V3, VTR, SVD, or even put $ away for Provari, etc...these days...online vendor ship fast...and some of the prices aren't bad even compared to mighty Fasttech. Most people here love their MVP 2.0s, and it should last you long enough to research, etc..
GL and you're great brother for doing this for her.
With Mech also, you have to do your homework on battery safety, ohm's law, customize your toppers, to match the voltage/resistance,amp of the battery...I would really suggest before you enter the world of mechs, do more reading ....I love my mechs..but somebody who is happy with MVP 2.0, it might not be the right way to go. You will also need two good quality batteries, while one is in use, the other one is in being charged (high quality charger)
BTW..$45.00 for Nemmy clone..it better be at least HCigar verison.
Plan B...while she is happy vaping away on MVP 2.0, do more research on regulated Mod, like Innokin VV V3, VTR, SVD, or even put $ away for Provari, etc...these days...online vendor ship fast...and some of the prices aren't bad even compared to mighty Fasttech. Most people here love their MVP 2.0s, and it should last you long enough to research, etc..
GL and you're great brother for doing this for her.
Bad idea for a vapist, your sister, who might not be willing to deal with the added investment in knowledge required to utilize a unregulated mech mod successfully.
Gotcha. I own a ProVari and an MVP2. If I could afford to dump the cash on another ProVari I would do it in a heartbeat. Maybe I'll just save up the funds for the day it actually does die and pick up another one. Thanks for the advice.
She certainly does not have time to invest in learning about this type of thing. I had planned on setting it up for her, but I'll just go for another MVP2. Works great, and fairly maintenance free. It just sucks not knowing when the thing is going to go out when it's been so rough for her. I'll leave the mechs for myself when I decide to get into them. Thanks for the response.
A wise and thoughtful decision.
You become the expert - so that if she chooses, can rely on you directly and to best effect... rather than a trickle down education - where you have to go through the discomfort of sorting out the interweb pearls of wisdom from the pails of poop - prior to attempting to disseminate it to her.
When you've a deeper interest, click on my second sig line for a mech/RBA pre-sorted education package.
You can, if the MVP2 is not completely discharged every time, see well in excess of 1000 recharge cycles... and some have approached 2000 recharges. I have an old MVP that does "new vapist - what do I want?" duty... well past 1400 recharges. Like a Timex, it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. ;-)
I don't know what you have for her as a back-up, or back-up for the back-up... but an Innokin iTaste 3.0 VV-VW, with perhaps one of the soon to be released Kangertech Aerotank Minis, would make for a very nice, discreet, dinner & dancin' purse sized APV.
I have bought 6 iTaste 3.0s in the past 6 months, and not a one of them is in my control... but rather in the hands of my wife, daughter and nieces.
Why does it have to be unregulated?
Do you think that Nemesis is unregulated? I can assure you it is not.
Amazing what a Kick/Kick2 module can do. Almost as amazing as the Nemesis including a ring specifically for it.
To the OP...
As you can see from my picture, I use a Nemesis with a Kick module. The Kick module provides both wattage regulation and some safety features to prevent damage to the battery and/or user. You can get a Kick module for about $15 and they take about 30 seconds to install. With the Kick module installed, my Nemesis is absolutely reliable, provides a steady vape through an entire battery charge, and I can throw any retail topper I want at it. And, if I ever get the urge, I can always remove it and run unregulated if I'm wanting to subohm.
The point here is just because one person runs theirs unregulated and is all worried about ohms laws and battery safety and all of that stuff, that doesn't mean it relates to you. My wife uses a mech mod with a Kick and an iClear 30S tank exclusively. It replaced her unreliable iTaste SVD. She doesn't know about or need to know about all of these special concerns that a minority of vapers have because they choose to subohm. All she needs to know is how to replace the battery and how to keep the tank and coil clean. The Kick module does the rest.
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State of Flux's comment about regulated vs un-regulated has to do with the added complexity of an unprotected mechanical mod. A novice not familiar with battery safety, mod safety, and short circuits is not the ideal person to hand a mechanical mod to. If you do, you are taking a lot for granted that everything is going to work out safely without a hitch.
My first mod was a mechanical. A month in the battery exploded in the mod when the fire button got stuck, causing the battery to over-discharge. This would not have happened if I was using a regulated mod.
A regulated mod has built-in protective circuitry to protect a novice against hard shorts and not allowing a battery to vent into her face. Short circuit protection, auto-time off function, thermal protection, reverse battery protection, etc. These are not present in a mechanical mod.
Adding a Kick to a mechanical mod will add some protection, but it is also just another complex thing to have to explain. KISS. Keep it simple stupid.
I think the best solution is to get the sister an MVP and an iTaste VV3 as a backup device.
My first mod was a mechanical. A month in the battery exploded in the mod when the fire button got stuck, causing the battery to over-discharge. This would not have happened if I was using a regulated mod.
A regulated mod has built-in protective circuitry to protect a novice against hard shorts and not allowing a battery to vent into her face. Short circuit protection, auto-time off function, thermal protection, reverse battery protection, etc. These are not present in a mechanical mod.
Adding a Kick to a mechanical mod will add some protection, but it is also just another complex thing to have to explain. KISS. Keep it simple stupid.
I think the best solution is to get the sister an MVP and an iTaste VV3 as a backup device.
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There are reliable USA vendors on ebay that sell the authentic MVP 2 for $45 delivered to your door - I know because that is how I got my two.
Everyone needs a backup device - relying on one device is risky IMHO.
So - if she likes the MVP 2 then you might consider getting her a backup MVP 2.
I own two - one sits as backup - the other in use.
Mechanical clones are attractive and relatively inexpensive - if you have time - very cheap via Fasttech
Add to that mechanical - 2-4 quality batteries and charger - which will cost you more than an MVP 2 but can provide a different vaping experience.
From what I have read the Nemeis and Stingray (just to name two) have a very good reputation.
Check out china clones thread on this forum - lots of beauties and reviews.
Everyone needs a backup device - relying on one device is risky IMHO.
So - if she likes the MVP 2 then you might consider getting her a backup MVP 2.
I own two - one sits as backup - the other in use.
Mechanical clones are attractive and relatively inexpensive - if you have time - very cheap via Fasttech
Add to that mechanical - 2-4 quality batteries and charger - which will cost you more than an MVP 2 but can provide a different vaping experience.
From what I have read the Nemeis and Stingray (just to name two) have a very good reputation.
Check out china clones thread on this forum - lots of beauties and reviews.
Of course the entire massive piece missing from this discussion is: What does your sister actually want? It's kind of irrelevant having this discussion with no knowledge of her likes or dislikes regarding PV form or function.
Lots of misinformation in this thread.
I recommend a simple mech (Nemmy clone or k100,etc)with a 2cent fuse and a vtc4 IMR battery.
It's as safe as a Provari and much more reliable as well as durable.
Do not use batteries like baditude posted. Use high discharge imr batteries with solid reputations.
Sony vtc4's are my personal choice. IMR batteries won't explode if they fail.
Your choice of atomizers will have everything to do with how much strain you put on your battery.
Using an atty with resistance over 1.2 ohms will pretty much ensure you won't over stress the battery at all.
Mechs are not confusing or any more dangerous than a Provari when using a fuse or kick module and the proper atomizer.
I recommend a simple mech (Nemmy clone or k100,etc)with a 2cent fuse and a vtc4 IMR battery.
It's as safe as a Provari and much more reliable as well as durable.
Do not use batteries like baditude posted. Use high discharge imr batteries with solid reputations.
Sony vtc4's are my personal choice. IMR batteries won't explode if they fail.
Your choice of atomizers will have everything to do with how much strain you put on your battery.
Using an atty with resistance over 1.2 ohms will pretty much ensure you won't over stress the battery at all.
Mechs are not confusing or any more dangerous than a Provari when using a fuse or kick module and the proper atomizer.
I just received my new MVP2.0 yesterday. Bought it on e-bay. Shipping included, I was in it for $40. It is an authentic and works amazingly.
If you check around, you'll be able to find one far less pricey than the B^M's price. A lot of websites that people from this forum shop at frequently are having sales on the MVP-2.0 as well. Plenty of options...
If you check around, you'll be able to find one far less pricey than the B^M's price. A lot of websites that people from this forum shop at frequently are having sales on the MVP-2.0 as well. Plenty of options...
These pictures are of AW IMR batteries that failed and either exploded or caused a fire. Never say never. Anything can happen.
It's true that you should never use a protected ICR battery in any mod, and especially any battery with "FIRE" in the name like Trustfire. That Trustfire ICR which exploded happened to be the battery that the mod manufacturer recommended for the mechanical mod at the time I purchased it - I didn't know any better at the time. To this day there are vendors & manufacturers recommending protected batteries for mods, and recommending batteries with FIRE in the name. Buyer Beware!
I stand by my previous statement that a regulated mod will be safer for a novice than a mechanical mod. A micro-processor with protective circuitry in a regulated mod is always going to be safer than a primitive 2 cents for safety mod fuse in a mechanical mod.
And I also disagree with your statement that a mechanical mod with a safety fuse will be "as safe as a Provari and much more reliable as well as durable." You obviously have never owned a Provari.
I see far more mechanical mods with mechanical-throw fire buttons get stuck (potential for over-discharging a battery) than I have seen with electrical buttons get stuck in a regulated mod.
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My sister wants whatever I recommend she use. I was fully aware of the dangers of not knowing what you're doing when setting up and using a mech. I have time to do so, but I don't feel it's the right set up for her (I would never hand anything over to her that I did not feel comfortable using/without doing proper checks). Like Baditude said, keep it simple. So I'll go for the MVP2. I got mine online for a great price, but I don't want to move forward unless hers goes out and she decides she wants another. In which case I'll swing by my B&M and scoop one up, albeit overpriced. Thanks for the responses! Much appreciated.
kuljit it never hurts to plan ahead. i would say buy another mvp2 now and have it sitting around as a backup if needed that way there is no down time between the first one failing and replacement arriving. and purchasing prior means you can get a good deal from an online vendor without B&M markup.
i spent a total of 160 on my 2 vamos and then kicked myself after seeking them online for 30 bucks. i feel its better to be prepared so when your pants start to drop you know your belt will catch them lol.
baditude good sir would you mind terribly sending me a link or 2 for some good batteries? i am using efest imr's in my hammer and vamo cause they are all my local shop had. and i didnt know any better. feel free to PM me.
i spent a total of 160 on my 2 vamos and then kicked myself after seeking them online for 30 bucks. i feel its better to be prepared so when your pants start to drop you know your belt will catch them lol.
baditude good sir would you mind terribly sending me a link or 2 for some good batteries? i am using efest imr's in my hammer and vamo cause they are all my local shop had. and i didnt know any better. feel free to PM me.
My only concern with ordering ahead is the warranty. I can get a 3 month warranty from my B&M with the purchase, as opposed to ordering ahead online. I believe the MVP2 is a solid piece, and do not doubt the life they can reach. It would just be nice to have that reassurance from day one of actual use. I have a couple of backups for myself, but already have the money set aside for the day I'll need to go out and purchase another...be it tomorrow or a year from now.
MVP 2.0 for $40. California based site, shipping usually gets to me in 3 days. Can order one ahead of time. Though I would suggest you go the mechanical mod route. They're sturdy and reliable as long as they come from a reputable manufacturer and as long as it's taken care of. You would need to learn some stuff about ohms law and whatnot though.
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