Yeah, superconcentrated tobaccos are the best synthetic tobaccos I've tried(but they need long steeping also.).Except them Eutoflavors American Gold is also very realistic tobacco.V by Black Note are very good but they are coilkillers like all n.e.t. flavors. @simplesid242 You can try with TFA Ry4 Double 6-8%, that worked for me at the begining,easy smoked caramel vape...