Revisiting old topic, losing my marbles

[mel_vin]

Hello vapping community!

Been a while since Ive posted on here. Been great reading up on people's success stories of quitting smoking, and its even cooler seeing people in my everyday life that Ive never discussed vaping with using an ecig! (like people working in my office building)

Anyway, I posted this a while ago but its something I just cant seem to put my finger on. Now I'm a very casual vaper nowadays, albeit perhaps of a result of what I think I'm experiencing...and just so its clear Im going on my 3rd year of no smoking which is great but boy, have I been tempted to start up again and its been an epic battle of will to not grab one. But I have my ego I keep in my desk drawer at work with a low 4MG nic VG based juice, unflavored just cause well less is more for me im about TH more than anything.

Anyway I find that when I do vape, I seem to get angry, or agitated very easily, and it really sucks! I noticed this first when I tried WTA juice. vaping for me seemed to always lack something, so after reading bout it here, I decided to order some WTA juice. Even my wife noticed a changed in me (I was very unpleasant to her) and it took a while to peace it together, but finally made the connection. I stopped vaping, and it took a few days but it felt like I was back to my "normal" self. Of course I freaked, and I gave most of my gear away, but kept my ego and a bottle of plain low MG nic juice. I ddint touch it for the longest time. I only grab it when I think I may cave it like weekends away at a friends cottage or hanging out with smoker friends (which are far and few between and not that often if I even remember to bring my ecig). But now even normal juice, I can usually sense my patience easily wear thin for dumb things, and the Portuguese temper comes out...its quite upsetting as I think something is wrong with me, and some other hard core vapers I know tell me its just in my head. I mean I've been an anxiety sufferer, but not on any meds or anything for that, just cognitive therapy, but its got me second guessing me now...

Ive brought this up with my DR, but he is one of those NOT in favor with ecigs an just says to lay off if Ive already quit smoking, which we all know is sometimes very hard to do. All he did say was that nicotine is a stimulant and perhaps thats what was going on...over stimulated... Not sure, it sure aint like when I have to much coffee; jittery pannicky.

Anyway sorry for the long post, but wanted to share. Its strange though. I can vividly remember what it was like to have a cigarette, that instant gratifying and calming sensation, especially if it had been a while since my last smoke. (dam even saying that just makes me want to have one grrr, but I resist with all my might) I was never a heavy smoker either, at most half pack a day, but usually 5-7/day. So Big Tobacco put all this other crap in their cigarettes and it kills us all slowly, I seem to be good with that, just plain nicotine and VG, and I go ape ...., ...? Obviously I wont do it if does this to me, but the temptation to pick up smoke lately has been brutal...Ive never really looked into this, but how do they get the nicotine for these juices? How do they extract it? Im sure thats a processes in itself....

 

[slider]

Here's my advice: Stop using the WTA juice and drink a V8 every day when you vape. Tomato's have at least 2 of the alkaloids that are in tobacco. The WTA juice has some carcinogenic alkaloids.
One more thing... have you tried switching to a higher nicotine juice 24-32 mg/ml and a 80PG/20VG mix?

You could be getting agitated because your body is not getting as much nicotine as you would from a cigarette. Not sure why PG vs VG would make a difference for you but it seems like it would be worth trying.

Ultimately just stay away from the cancer sticks.

The WTA juice you could essentially make at home by getting some USP grade PG and tobacco leaves, grind the leaves in a herb or coffee grinder then fill them up in a mason jar, pour PG over the top and apply lid, wait 6 weeks (shaking daily), then strain out the leaves from the juice.

 

[mel_vin]

Here's my advice: Stop using the WTA juice and drink a V8 every day when you vape. Tomato's have at least 2 of the alkaloids that are in tobacco. The WTA juice has some carcinogenic alkaloids.
One more thing... have you tried switching to a higher nicotine juice 24-32 mg/ml and a 80PG/20VG mix?

You could be getting agitated because your body is not getting as much nicotine as you would from a cigarette. Not sure why PG vs VG would make a difference for you but it seems like it would be worth trying.

Ultimately just stay away from the cancer sticks.

The WTA juice you could essentially make at home by getting some USP grade PG and tobacco leaves, grind the leaves in a herb or coffee grinder then fill them up in a mason jar, pour PG over the top and apply lid, wait 6 weeks (shaking daily), then strain out the leaves from the juice.

hey thanks for the reply.

the problem i have with PG, is that almost always when i use it, even in as little as a 75/25 vg/pg ratio, my mouth breaks out in canker sores, and i know its not a quit smoking thing, it still happens if i try it today, 3 years after quiting.

as for the wta juice, i gave it away, so i dont have any more. the higher the nic content almost always resulted in a buzzed nic feeling, with the ocasional heart palp. 8mg is the highest i can go it seems. i gave up on flavors to avoid any other possible interactions, and i figured the cigarettes i smoked werent flavored anyway.

I'll give the v8 a shot next time i vape. how did you come across the connection of that?

 

[KENNY V]

The WTA juice you could essentially make at home by getting some USP grade PG and tobacco leaves, grind the leaves in a herb or coffee grinder then fill them up in a mason jar, pour PG over the top and apply lid, wait 6 weeks (shaking daily), then strain out the leaves from the juice.

sorry to bud in but do you know if this can be done with VG as well thanks

 

[deadmeadow]

I'm not really sure, you said you have a previous history of anxiety, probably have minor OCD problems too. Maybe when you pick up the vape even though it's not smoking you feel like you let yourself down, so you're projecting your aggravation on other people or yourself. The way the mind and body feels heavily correlates with each other, have been to the E.R. a couple times for "life threatening" situations that weren't as urgent as I thought they were.

I wouldn't give up, either experiment with a different set-up/juice, talk to a different doctor/get more tests or give it all up, pick up a form of meditation and continue the everlasting search for full peace like the rest of us. Good luck.