ReVolver Elite Duo works like crap!

[NatureBoy]

Just got this today from another board member.

Compared to my Sidesho, this thing works like absolute CRAP! I'm very surprised by this.

First of all, it takes bigger/stronger draws to activate the battery. Otherwise, the LED doesn't even come on. Ok, so I have to suck really hard.. strike 1.

First new out of the package cart I put on didn't work. I pulled it off and the stuffing came out with it and dropped on my leg, splashing e-juice all over it. Great.. strike 2.

So I tried another one. This one worked fine for the first haul, then it didn't work after that.

So I tried dripping onto the atty. That worked for 2 hauls, then nothing. Either I get disgusting flavour out of them, or I get nothing at all. I've tried both batteries and both attys with the same results.. strike 3.

Pretty disappointed with this one.

 

[Scottbee]

Interesting review.

I personally am quite happy with mine. I guess I've had it for about 2-3 months now.

 

[NatureBoy]

Do you have a review posted on yours? I'm interested to hear what your vaping experiences are like with this model. Do you have others to compare it with?

I'm wondering if they're defective, as the poor performance is really quite surprising.

I find the carts aren't very good either. Compared to the Sidesho's carts, these don't seem to wick well into the attys. I've tried filling them with my own juice, with the same poor performance. Whereas with the Sidesho, I filled a blank cart with some juice, and it's performing exceptionally well.

 

[Scottbee]

I didn't post a review.. but I did watch Nikko's before I bought. I think Mooby may have done one too.

Do I have other units? Ummm.. yeah. KR808D-1's, 510's, eGo/Tornado, 901... and my venerable M702/M803 (the Elite)

 

[NatureBoy]

I didn't post a review.. but I did watch Nikko's before I bought. I think Mooby may have done one too.

Do I have other units? Ummm.. yeah. KR808D-1's, 510's, eGo/Tornado, 901... and my venerable M702/M803 (the Elite)

Do you find you have to suck very hard with your M702 to activate the battery, or is it as sensitive as your others?

I'm trying to determine if they're defective, or what the issue is. I watched a couple video reviews as well before I grabbed these, so my experience doesn't seem to be typical.

Also, how does the PCC work to charge the battery? I pressed and held the button down for a few seconds until I saw the green LED blink and the battery's LED blink, then let go... but the green LED turns off after a few seconds after that. How do I know if it's actually charging the battery and when the charging is finished?

 

[Scottbee]

No, I don't have to suck very hard to actuate the battery. It's about the same as my KR8... which is the only other automatic that I have.

If the green light comes on solid after it blinks.. and then turns off, the battery is charged. If the light turns red, then the battery charging cycle has started.

At any time you can press the button to see if the battery is still charging. If it is, the light will come on red.

 

[NatureBoy]

Okey doke, so the batteries were both fully charged.

Hmm... dunno what the issue is with these then.

 

[FlipnOut]

Hey Nature, glad to hear you got it today. I made sure that I charged the batt in the charge slot before sending it to you, so that you would have a fresh batt to vape off of. The batt that was in the box/sleeve was brand new from Revolver. These require a little stiffer draw than my KR8's do to activate the batt. I don't own any other models other than home built mods with manual buttons, so I can't give you any other comparison. The two atty's that were sent, one was new, the other was used. You can tell by the threads which was which. (the threads on the used atty have a little buildup, as I didn't clean it before sending it). I had the stuffing on one of the cherry carts come out when it got stuck in the mesh of the atty, I always went to Fluval once I was ready to refill, so it wasn't a regular issue. Try pairing the new batt with the new atty and see if you have the same draw, (should be, as I wouldn't have sold it if it were a POS, just changed to cartos for ease of refill and mods). Keep me posted.

 

[NatureBoy]

Hey man, yeah I was gonna PM you I got it later today... I was hoping to get some clarity shone on my experience with it before PM'ing you cuz I wanted it to be positive... I'll leave you + feedback regardless since you were a good person to deal with, shipped it quickly, good communication, etc.

Had you tried it out after you used your other ones? Perhaps it just seemed to work ok since it was the first one you used.. if I hadn't the Sidesho to compare it with, I might think more of it. I have tried both batteries and both attys now. I cleaned out both attys and primed each. One of them seems to work better than the other, but the taste is f-in terrible. This is with dripping directly on the atty as well.. so I'm really not sure why it's performing like this. There's a couple second delay for the atty to kick in, where the Sidesho is almost instant.. and this one takes a while to heat up as well.. and I have to suck quite a bit to get it to turn on.

Oh well.. I'll play around with it some more to see if I can get it to work better.

 

[FlipnOut]

Actually, as I posted in my ad, if nobody picked them up by Sunday, I was going to keep them. So I kept the second one. (Especially after it cost me $10 to ship that one to you, it doesn't even really make sense to sell them once I figured in the paypal fee.) The other unit with a new atty and 2 older batts is sitting beside me as we speak. The flavor isn't as good as my KR8's, but it produces more vapor. I think they run hotter due to the lower impedance coil. I drag off of them just hard enough to light the LED, no harder. I've just been dripping on it, and playing around with flavors. I don't have a Sideshow and don't know anything about it, so can't give a comparison. I used the open cell Fluval with a spring to keep it pressed against the atty. (get a spring from a pen, cut it down to where it sits inside the inner cartridge, cut it about one turn from the top of the inner cart. Insert fluval into the center of the spring so that it sticks up and fills in the top area of the inner cart above the spring) This keeps the atty wet, while keeping it from leaking all over the place. The other nice thing, is for refilling, you can pull the fluval/spring out as one piece, drop 8 drips into the cart, and put the spring/fluval back in. These atty's really seem to like to be wet in order to taste good. Like just before flooded wet. When I drip, I drip two drops, take 3-4 puffs, then drip 2 drops again. Keeps it tasting pretty good, but still not quite as good as a KR8 IMHO. Again, I think it's due to the higher resistance.

There's a pretty good forum about these on blucigs, not much on this forum since it's mostly 510 users.

 

[NatureBoy]

Yeah, you really did give me a great deal, thanks again.

I cut down the juice I have with some brandy, because I accidentally bought HV juice. This seems to have helped the performance on both models actually. But still, so far the vapor production and flavor is quite a bit less, even with dripping.

I'll experiment with the cart mods though, see if it helps.

These are different than the Blu though, aren't they? I thought the Revolver Elite was the M701 whereas the Blu is L88B.

 

[FlipnOut]

I think they're different from the Blu, Revolver just uses their forum (google Revolver Elite PCC and you'll find it). It's actually an M702 PCC, and I think someone told me that the batts are officially an 803? I'm not sure. You got me curious on the Sideshow... what is it? A 510? Other?

 

[NatureBoy]

Made by the same manufacturer as the Blu/Volcano. The difference is that the battery is longer, the atty is a bit longer as well, and the batteries are available in manual.

It's funny how user experiences vary so much with these things. A lot of complaints with the Blu's performance, yet I wonder if they're anything like the Sidesho, since I am getting great results from mine.

I need lower nicotine juice though... I'm getting quite grossed out by it now with all of the experimenting. I'm not used to all this nicotine I guess. I'm amazed people can actually smoke 36mg and up. I think I'd be puking if I did that.

 

[FlipnOut]

I have some 48 that I use only when I'm having "one of those days". I've had a carto with 48mg Butterscotch in it for nearly a month, and haven't used the 1ml that I put in it. I really hope you find the sweet spot on the Elite, I'd hate it if you spent $40 on something you don't use. I got lucky and caught this thread, but if you need any other help, just hit me with a PM.

 

[NatureBoy]

48? Yikes.. I'm still feelin woozy from this 16mg stuff... lol. I think I kept getting it on my hands which didn't help. Made for a really difficult workout tonight.. took me almost 2 hours to get through it.

Ya know, after seeing Nikko's video review.. makes me wonder where all the vapor is hiding, haha.. I'll keep playing with them see if I can get it to improve. I'll PM ya if I need any help. If I can't get them to work right, maybe I'll order some spare parts and see if that improves things at all.

 

[FlipnOut]

I just thought about what you said. If you used brandy to cut your juice, that could be where the vapor and flavor is hiding. Depending on how far you cut it, it really would eliminate much of the vapor and flavor, and since the Revolver runs hotter than most do, the heat would probably get rid of the rest. I don't know the flash point of Brandy, but if I use a little too much 190 proof when mixing my DIY's, I'll end up with much less vapor.

 

[Scottbee]

Generally speaking... if you knock down your liquid with anything more than 10% alcohol.... you'll gut the vapor production.

 

[NatureBoy]

I just thought about what you said. If you used brandy to cut your juice, that could be where the vapor and flavor is hiding. Depending on how far you cut it, it really would eliminate much of the vapor and flavor, and since the Revolver runs hotter than most do, the heat would probably get rid of the rest. I don't know the flash point of Brandy, but if I use a little too much 190 proof when mixing my DIY's, I'll end up with much less vapor.

I actually cut it down after testing the liquid first as is. I hadn't realized what 'HV' meant. It was quite thick, so after testing it with the Sidesho and Revolver, I cut it with a bit of brandy.

The Sidesho still produces a good amount of vapor and flavor with the juice, but the Elite does not. So I don't think it's the juice.

I've also tested two of the other juices I got that are also 'HV' (which I haven't cut down yet), and it's the same thing. It was a nice thought, would be nice if that were the case... but alas....

 

[NatureBoy]

Been fiddling with these things tonight. Getting pretty good vapor from them now, but the taste is still really funky. Strange thing is they leave my mouth feeling like there's menthol in the juice, but there isn't. It's the same juice I'm testing with my Sidesho, French Vanilla Coffee, from nHale.. cut down with a tiny bit of Brandy.

I think I'll start messing around with different cart fillers.

 

[VictoryNotVengence]

the HV juice is your problem, that cig isn't made for them. get some reg juice and it will be better. also if you can find a manual battery for the m702 atty i would suggest you do.

The sideshow is an M401 i think and the eliete is a m702. HV juice killed my M602 atty, its just to thick.