Reynolds American delving deeper into nicotine gum business

[RCHagy74]

Reynolds American delving deeper into nicotine gum business

Makes you wonder if they knew the day would come.

Could it be because combustible tobacco as a whole is what creates nicotine dependance?

RCH

That is an honest question above, by the by. I have read some things that say such but not real research (yes I know... what real research!).

 

[Kent C]

Could it be because combustible tobacco as a whole is what creates nicotine dependance?

Many things point to that. But the problem is that nic gum doesn't alleviate it.

That's why:

"More than 42 million U.S. adults smoke cigarettes and about half try to quit every year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

... before ecigs, the percentage drop in adult smoking was miniscule after about 1995, and virtually flat from 2000 to 2009. And per the HELP committee idiot from CDC, the 'attempted quits' were more important than actual quits - which doesn't happen in significant numbers with cold turkey, gum or patches (or Chantix - except those who commit suicide). Only ecigs have dropped the percentage since 2010 with a direct connection of cig sales dropping vs. ecig sales exploding - well, that is until this year where the black PR put out by junk scientists and their media lapdogs are saying ecigs are more dangerous than cigarettes.

 

[pamdis]

It's pretty smart. Now that the courts have ruled that as long as you don't make any therapeutic claims, you can't be regulated as a drug, why not compete directly with the drug companies without having to spend as much as they did to bring the products to market. Especially since the gov't and public health are pushing them for you without you having to spend any money either.

"Why no, FDA, my gum isn't a cessation product - it's a smoking alternative!"

Just think about it. They could sell it as cheaply as Trident and push the pharma products right off the shelves.

 

[Steamix]

So there's a guy from the company they bought sitting in a key post in the FDA.

Passing bills (laws) by passing bills (these little one with numbers and presidential portraits on them). Guess Reynolds is just positioning itself for the up an coming game of 'pass the bu...', err bills...

But maybe they playing hopscotch too: Nicotine laced chewing moving out of the cessation products corner into the RHA-field ? Hmmm. Not a bad move...
Or have you ever been shown the door in an y place for chewing gum ?

 

[renacer]

Nicotine gum: FDA approved because the FDA only approves safe nicotine products if they taste horrible.

 

[caramel]

Or have you ever been shown the door in an y place for chewing gum ?

Chewing gum ban in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pamdis]

And this is why Mitch Zeller has quietly said many times that FDA needs a 'comprehensive nicotine policy'. He sees pharma losing long term. Why take a prescription nicotine pill at an astronomical cost for your Parkinson's, Tourettes, or IBS when you can use a very cheap gum or lozenge or e-cigarette? These alternatives have to go unless they are marketed, sold, and priced as drugs. No recreational use allowed if it can be easily substituted for an expense drug therapy.

 

[CarolT]

Reynolds has been interested in this for a long, long time. I was going through my old notes yesterday when I found this:

Fred Panzer letter, 1982

"Dear Tuck: Attached in the background on the Nicorette Anti-Smoking Symposium which I discussed with you on the phone today. In addition to the participants listed, I was informed that John Penney [sic - John M. Pinney, of Pinney Associates - cast] also attended. Interestingly, this symposium was held at the Washington headquarters of the American Heart Association.

"The Symposium was held in preparation for marketing Nicorette gum in the United States. Nicorette is produced by Leo Pharmaceutical Company of Sweden and will be handled in the United States by Merrell Dow Pharmaceutical Inc. which is a subsidiary of Dow Chemical Company and which according to Standard & Poor's is also a division of Merrell Pharmaceutical Inc. Among the directors of Dow is Barbara Hackman Franklin, former Commissioner of the Consumer Product Safety Commission. Among the directors of Merrell Pharmaceutical Inc. are Joseph F. Abley Jr. and Charles F. Myers, both 'associated with' R.J.R. Industries." (Fred Panzer, Vice President of the Tobacco Institute, to Charles A. Tucker, RJ Reynolds Tobacco Co., March 17, 1982.)
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[DC2]

And this is why Mitch Zeller has quietly said many times that FDA needs a 'comprehensive nicotine policy'. He sees pharma losing long term. Why take a prescription nicotine pill at an astronomical cost for your Parkinson's, Tourettes, or IBS when you can use a very cheap gum or lozenge or e-cigarette? These alternatives have to go unless they are marketed, sold, and priced as drugs. No recreational use allowed if it can be easily substituted for an expense drug therapy.

Yup.

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[NorthOfAtlanta]

And this is why Mitch Zeller has quietly said many times that FDA needs a 'comprehensive nicotine policy'. He sees pharma losing long term. Why take a prescription nicotine pill at an astronomical cost for your Parkinson's, Tourettes, or IBS when you can use a very cheap gum or lozenge or e-cigarette? These alternatives have to go unless they are marketed, sold, and priced as drugs. No recreational use allowed if it can be easily substituted for an expense drug therapy.

This is another reason the slap down of the FDAs attempt to declare e-cigarettes as a drug delivery device was so important, if it had stood we would already have seen prescription nicotine products on the market. Judge Leon's decision took it off the drug only market and made it a consumer product that might be deemed a tobacco product and would have to be deemed if the FDA was going to have any control of it at all beyond normal consumer product safety concerns.