RTA - Top Coil or Bottom?

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93gc40

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Looking to upgrade from protanks to rebuildable tank.. Dripper is too much hassle. Which way is better the kayfun style, which is bottom coil Like the PT. OR the Genesis style with the coil above the tank? recommendations are welcome. I only use 2-3ml a day on the Kangers. Mainly looking for more flavor and easier to build on.
 

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I'm kinda used to keeping a tank upright. IMO that is the cause of MOST tank leaks, wicking and gurgling, leaking and flooding issues of clearo tanks. Would expect no different from an RTA. I was thinking the Genny tank would be more trouble to use. I figured a Good wicking Gennie would be prone to waterfall style leakage. I find with a Portank if you keep the tip above the air holes, and fluid above the wick holes, the leaks stay away.
 

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I prefer bottom coils, and the Kayfun and eLeaf Lemo are both good choices in that style. Lemo holds a tad more, but not significantly so. But it comes stock with a pyrex tube, which is an after market mod for the KF types. If you use tank cracker juices, that might be an important point. (Of course, you can use the full stainless KF configuration, but I like to see how much liquid is left.)

Never had a leak from either of those, in any position. Both easy to build, well made and reliable.
 

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ALSO, If you are using a tank.. How are you wicking and coiling it?

I got my favorite build from this video. Over 6 months using it with no problems. Try it out and see how it works for you.



Also, back to your earlier question, I honestly don't see much reason to use a genny style tank now that we've got the kayfun and so many other good mid-coil tanks that work so well. I haven't ever tried one, but everything I've seen and heard makes them look tempermental and difficult to deal with for a result that's not really better than the kayfun styles, which are really easy to use.
 

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I prefer bottom coils, and the Kayfun and eLeaf Lemo are both good choices in that style. Lemo holds a tad more, but not significantly so. But it comes stock with a pyrex tube, which is an after market mod for the KF types. If you use tank cracker juices, that might be an important point. (Of course, you can use the full stainless KF configuration, but I like to see how much liquid is left.)

Never had a leak from either of those, in any position. Both easy to build, well made and reliable.

What DavidOck said. I will add that a Kayfun will give you a tighter draw, with no way of opening it up, but you may prefer that coming from your Protanks. The Lemo has a much more open draw with the ability to tighten it up, though I couldn't know how tight because I have always run mine wide open. Both good choices, but I would definitely give the Lemo the edge due to its versatility.
 
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Lemo over Kayfun easily in my book. Bigger build deck and adjustable airflow, the KF is very tight to me. I had three KFs, knockoffs obviously. I know have four Lemos and the KFs collect dust. The Lemos are also easier to wick IMHO. The KF to me are a lot touchier to having just the right amount of with. I and a couple different brands with the same experience.


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You gotta try the new atlantis tank. Its awesome! Sub ohm coil in a 2 ml tank. Best tank IMHO.

I'm trying upgrade tank systems.
IMO the aspire tank are the same as the Protanks. Kangers can be coiled sub ohm, also. I prefer the protank for DIY, I wind verticle coils in dual coil heads for my PT3s. Doubt I'm going below 1ohm anytime soon.
 

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If this is your first rebuildable, definitely the kayfun style, as it's a lot easier to deal with and get the build right. If a dripper is too much hassle for you, a genny probably will be, too. And you can't set it on it's side with juice in it or it will leak out the wicking hole in the top cap.

The bolded part isn't necessarily true. Stopping gennies from leaking is all about basic understanding of how they work. Let air into the tank through a hole too small for liquids to get out. Easy as that.

I'd say get a cheap dripper no matter if you think you'll like drippers or not. Easy access to your wick and coil - and being able to see it in action - is a blessing when you first start rebuilding.

That being said... gennies is something you need to want to learn. If you don't want the bother, don't go there. They can be a hassle to learn to set up properly. This may sound elitist... but really... I just hate to see people make half-assed attempts and flame gennies forever after. :)
 
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The bolded part isn't necessarily true. Stopping gennies from leaking is all about basic understanding of how they work. Let air into the tank through a hole too small for liquids to get out. Easy as that.

I'd say get a cheap dripper no matter if you think you'll like drippers or not. Easy access to your wick and coil - and being able to see it in action - is a blessing when you first start rebuilding.

That being said... gennies is something you need to want to learn. If you don't want the bother, don't go there. They can be a hassle to learn to set up properly. This may sound elitist... but really... I just hate to see people make half-assed attempts and flame gennies forever after. :)

If you can figure out how to use a dripper ALL day, without carrying any supplies.. Then and only then will I consider a dripper. I don't even want to have to go near the ejuice bottle at home more than 1 time per day. That means I want a tank holding from 2-4 ML of fluid.
 

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If you can figure out how to use a dripper ALL day, without carrying any supplies.. Then and only then will I consider a dripper. I don't even want to have to go near the ejuice bottle at home more than 1 time per day. That means I want a tank holding from 2-4 ML of fluid.

I didn't see you using it all day every day. I'm not big on the drippers myself. It is just my opinion that they make for a great platform for learning how to rebuild. Gives you a chance to try, fail and experiment with different setups just by popping off the top cap.

On the other hand... you just made the vaping equivalent of a mating call. I'm sure some Reo users will come along and tell you all about how to use drippers without the hassles of dripping. Short version: Reo. :)
 
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