(Savannah) Smoking ban, Iraq art, Shirley Sherrod

[ezmoose]

Smoking ban, Iraq art, Shirley Sherrod

The attitude of the average smoker is rude, disrespectful, and arrogant.

I'm sure this mentality carries over to E Cigarette consumers in Brandi's eyes (many others). After all, we are the same rude lot that used to smoke! We’re just leading healthier lifestyles now!

My Comment

I agree Brandi, we should also ban those pesky cars, trucks, motorcycles, chemical plants, petroleum refineries, factories, power plants, BBQs, jets, planes, trains, boats, ships, volcanoes, cheap perfume, hairspray, underarm deodorant, bad breathe, bon fires, candles on and on… What makes anyone think they have a right to infringe on my air space? You know how rude the average person is! I ride a bicycle.

 

[CtryBoy]

Think this is more a human condition than just limited to smokers/vapers. People today seem to think the world owes them something and could care less how their actions affect others. Sometimes they are the rude ones defiling your airspace, next time you notice it's you defiling (at least in their minds if we are talking vapor) their airspace. Viscious cycle.

Tough for me to swallow, but when my less than considerate friend just jumps in my passenger seat happily puffing away.............well, guess I could always say no next time she asks for a ride. It's amazing just how badly second hand smoke can affect me now that I am a 99% vaper. Cough, sneeze, gag........of course no smoker can take a hint anymore than I could when I used to smoke. My cigarettes never stunk up the joint. Or did they. Hate to admit the anti's have a point about second hand smoke, just wish they understood we are actually on their side for once trying to eliminate smoking (BIG DIFFERENCE IS IT'S OUR CHOICE). But they can be as rude as smokers, give that dog a bone and he aint gonna let go.

 

[kristin]

I feel like I'm following you around today, ezmoose! LOL

Commented:

Maybe if the government and public health groups would stop lying to the public about smokeless alternatives, more smokers would make the switch.

Smokeless alternatives, such as snus and e-cigarettes, are scientifically proven to be 98-99% safer than smoking and don't harm bystanders. Yet the powers-that-be insist on making smokeless alternatives appear as bad as smoking, causing smokers to believe there is no benefit in switching.

Brandi is right - if you've been alive in the past 30 years, you know the dangers of smoking - yet people still find the need to do it. Usually, it's the benefits they get from nicotine and ritual habit. Public health groups and the government seem to be doing everything possible to keep deadly cigarettes as the only effective source of these things and ban all of the safer options. What sense does that make - unless you consider the cigarette tax revenues and the FDA's relationship to Big tobacco and Big Pharma?

There will always be those who use nicotine and find comfort in the habit. Nicotine use, absent the smoke, is no greater danger than caffeine. But they won't tell you that.

It's time to go back to the roots of the anti-smoking movement and fight the real danger - smoking - not less harmful smokeless alternatives. tobacco with a 1-2% health risk is NOT the enemy. Promote it to dedicated smokers and it's a win-win for everyone.

By moving to an anti-tobacco stance instead of the anti-smoking stance, they are stubbornly refusing to acknowledge that there ARE much safer tobacco products that would solve a lot of the issues found with smoking. In doing so, they continue to keep the public in harm's way and make no progress in the war against smoking.

In the absence of a complete ban on cigarettes, if the government and public health groups really wanted to make a difference, they would reveal to smokers that smokeless alternatives have little or no significant health risks and encourage their use. That would not only improve the health of current smokers, it would reduce the number of new smokers and all but eliminate the dangers of second hand smoke.

But there is too much tax revenue and profit in keeping cigarettes legal and eliminating any competition. Very scary.

 

[ezmoose]

I feel like I'm following you around today, ezmoose! LOL

That explains that urge to keep looking over my shoulder! lol

 

[rothenbj]

I was right behind both of you. I let Kristin's post speak for me, but addressed this need for busy bodies and government to get involved in proprietor's business.

With 80% of the population being non-smokers and ex-smokers, there is plenty of incentive for business owners to go non-smoking. A lot of bars around me went non-smoking before the ban in PA. Fortunately, there are some that can remain smoking bars (at least today). In fact some went non-smoking, lost so much business that they reverted back to smoking to bring back the clientele.

I've spent time in both and, as long as they have effective ventilation, I prefer the smoking bars. I really get bored by the non-smoking crowd. Half the time the main conversation revolves around how much nicer it is to go out and not have to deal with smoke. Boring.

Incidentally, I've never.... never had anyone give me a hard time in any of the non-smoking bars about my thunder chuck.

 

[ezmoose]

Enough obsessing on E Cigarette News; I'm off on a bike trek!

I can't wait to inhale vehicle exhaust on my way to the trails!

91 Octane provides a pretty good buzz, but nothing tops diesel for a throat hit! lol