So.... after alot of reading on the fourm ive ben scared away from mech mods, but im getting into rebuilding sofar ive only rebuilt my evod and PT2 but i have ordered a kayfun 3.1 at the moment my best device is a itaste vv-v3 but i know an rba will be no good on that so im going to order something else can anyone sujest a decent APV that will work well with a rba or do i need to get a mech mod?
Scared Away From Mech Mods
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A RBA will work on any mod as long as the coil build is high enough. If you build it around 1.7 ohms or higher you will be fine on any device. Mech mods are only necessary if you are building low resistance coils.
That being said, what is scaring you away from mechs? As long as you do your research and use proper batteries mech mods are really not any more dangerous than anything else.
The Kayfun is a great device to start with, I think you are really going to enjoy it.
For an excellent resource on battery safety, check ou t Baditudes blog
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That being said, what is scaring you away from mechs? As long as you do your research and use proper batteries mech mods are really not any more dangerous than anything else.
The Kayfun is a great device to start with, I think you are really going to enjoy it.
For an excellent resource on battery safety, check ou t Baditudes blog
E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs
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If you do see a mech you like, you can always put a regulator in it (turn it into a VW/VV device).
These are called "Kicks" or "Crowns", and range in price from around $25 - $50.
The real deals are by companies called Evolv (USA), and Artisan (Canada).
You can also find lower priced (but also less versatile/powerful) clones by companies like SmokTech, Sigeli, and Kamry.
Given one of these regulators, in addition to something like a Nemisis clone (a perfect flush fit with the KayFun)...you could get the combo for a similar price (maybe even less) to an APV.
The main things that you'd be missing by "Kicking" a mech are:
A screen showing the settings.
Built in Ohm meter.
Not as easy to adjust (if you go with a model that uses a pot adjustment, you'd have to open the mod to adjust the Kick's power setting...usually not a problem).
The things you'd gain by going this route:
Adjustable air flow built into the mod.
If you went with an Artisan Crown, you could trade some power for being able to adjust it without opening your mod. The Crown also has an Ohm meter (long and short beeps to tell you what it is).
The safety and regulation options included with other APVs.
Potentially more versatile (can take builds down to 0.5 Ohms) and powerful (up to 15w) if you go with a Genuine Evolv Kick 2.
A shorter, lighter, lower profile PV.
The option to take out the Kick if you ever want to experiment with a fully unregulated set-up.
The best regulated vape I've had to date can be seen below:
Kicked Brass Nemisis Clone
I took the top off to show how easy it is to get to the Kick 2's Pot (the blue square thing) in a Nemisis. In this mod I adjust the power by turning a little screw inside that pot.
And here's some other mods I have that either contain a Kick or Crown.
1. Saber Kicked Edition w/Crown 2.0 and 18650 battery, 2. K100 with Crown 2.0 and 18500 battery, 3. Nemisis w/Evolv Kick 2 and 18650 battery.
I chose a Crown for the Saber and K100 because I don't like having to fish it out to make adjustments. Also the Kick 2 won't work in the Saber. Notice how short the Nemisis is, even with a kicked 18650!
These are called "Kicks" or "Crowns", and range in price from around $25 - $50.
The real deals are by companies called Evolv (USA), and Artisan (Canada).
You can also find lower priced (but also less versatile/powerful) clones by companies like SmokTech, Sigeli, and Kamry.
Given one of these regulators, in addition to something like a Nemisis clone (a perfect flush fit with the KayFun)...you could get the combo for a similar price (maybe even less) to an APV.
The main things that you'd be missing by "Kicking" a mech are:
A screen showing the settings.
Built in Ohm meter.
Not as easy to adjust (if you go with a model that uses a pot adjustment, you'd have to open the mod to adjust the Kick's power setting...usually not a problem).
The things you'd gain by going this route:
Adjustable air flow built into the mod.
If you went with an Artisan Crown, you could trade some power for being able to adjust it without opening your mod. The Crown also has an Ohm meter (long and short beeps to tell you what it is).
The safety and regulation options included with other APVs.
Potentially more versatile (can take builds down to 0.5 Ohms) and powerful (up to 15w) if you go with a Genuine Evolv Kick 2.
A shorter, lighter, lower profile PV.
The option to take out the Kick if you ever want to experiment with a fully unregulated set-up.
The best regulated vape I've had to date can be seen below:
Kicked Brass Nemisis Clone
I took the top off to show how easy it is to get to the Kick 2's Pot (the blue square thing) in a Nemisis. In this mod I adjust the power by turning a little screw inside that pot.
And here's some other mods I have that either contain a Kick or Crown.
1. Saber Kicked Edition w/Crown 2.0 and 18650 battery, 2. K100 with Crown 2.0 and 18500 battery, 3. Nemisis w/Evolv Kick 2 and 18650 battery.
I chose a Crown for the Saber and K100 because I don't like having to fish it out to make adjustments. Also the Kick 2 won't work in the Saber. Notice how short the Nemisis is, even with a kicked 18650!
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It's just all the threads I've read on how they are dangrous and to be carfull with them and what not, I feel asthough I'd be the one that'd have a battery blow up in my face.
at the momment my Protank2 rebuild is 2 oHm i was thinking about trying for the 1.5 ohm mark as from what ive worked out sofar is the lower the ohm the more Wattage u can put into it and get a much thicker and flavorsome vape.
i dont want to sub ohm till im more experanced with my builds. to my understanding sub ohming is less than 1 ohm yes?
You can build for an itaste vv. A simple 4 or 5 wraps of 32ga kanthal will give you about 2 ohms or so. Or 28ga you can do about a 12 wrap microcoil. (These are just ballparks. Depends on what you wrap on, of course.) You can test your coil right on the vv.
im using 32AwG kenthal and 3mm silica in my protank wrapped 4 times its reading 2 oHm.. is it the more wraps the less ohm? so say i was to add another wrap would it drop to like 1.8 (ball park figure ofcourse) or would it go to say 2.2?
More wraps = higher ohms
Use a thicker gauge wire. Oops, clicked post too soon. Use thicker gauge wire. You can get more wraps for lower ohms.
Correct. Sub-Ohm means going below 1 Ohm.
With a Kayfun I doubt you'll need that. It does a great job anywhere from around 0.8 ohms all the way up to 3 Ohms. I personally like mine around 8 watts (I build micro coils at around 2 Ohms wicked with cotton and use a Kick to tune in the wattage).
The main thing to be careful of with a mech is to use high quality batteries with high C ratings. From there you can use regulators and fuses to keep things safer as you 'learn' more about your ideal build. Once you know exactly what you want...and the limits of the batteries and gear, you can then safely match up gear and lose some of the safety features.
No, more wraps will increase the resistance or raise the Ohm rating.
Sub ohm can be enjoyable, bigger clouds and warmer vape, but it is not necessary for a satisfying experience.
Sorry confused myself.. if i had a coil of 2ohm and was to raise the rating of that ohm it would then be 1.something wouldnt it?
as i worked out the lower the number the higher the rating.... i think Here's a cool web-site for calculating 'vaping stuff'.
Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
It also has calculators for numbers of wraps, and theoretical battery drain. It's pretty cool
Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
It also has calculators for numbers of wraps, and theoretical battery drain. It's pretty cool
Don't worry man. I was in the same boat. I had a safety a kick was paranoid as hell. Then after getting my cartel i started going without one. Turns out I'm paranoid for nothing my builds are just fine . Just stay above the .8 ohm mark and you'll be fine. And use good batteries. !!!!
. Just stay above the .8 ohm mark and you'll be fine. And use good batteries. !!!!Here's a cool web-site for calculating 'vaping stuff'.
Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators
It also has calculators for numbers of wraps, and theoretical battery drain. It's pretty cool
hey that is really cool, so i just worked out with what ive got to build a 1.5 ohm atty id wrap my kenthal around my silica 2.94 times
if i were to to run that at 10W i id have 4v and be sucking 2.67amp of power from my battery?
NO i think this is wrong.... was trying to figure out tho ohm law page.....
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Don't worry man. I was in the same boat. I had a safety a kick was paranoid as hell. Then after getting my cartel i started going without one. Turns out I'm paranoid for nothing my builds are just fine
Since I vape single coil stuff in the 6 - 12 watt range 98% of the time...my Kicks and Crowns with a 10 amp 2900mah Panny Hybrid battery are golden for a full day of vaping
On the occasion I want to tinker with multiple coil builds...that's when the 30 amp batteries go in the Nemisis, and the Kick comes out. I make my own 10 amp fuses for such a rig (A bit of leg bending and epoxy in a mold with a 10amp car fuse).
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i dont quite understand where the amp thing comes into it can u please explain this?
now i wish i payed more attention during Algebra at school...... i always thought 'when the hell am i gunna use this in reallife'
hey that is really cool, so i just worked out with what ive got to build a 1.5 ohm atty id wrap my kenthal around my silica 2.94 times
if i were to to run that at 10W i id have 4v and be sucking 2.67amp of power from my battery?
NO i think this is wrong.... was trying to figure out tho ohm law page.....
Correct...you figured out the Ohms you need, NOT the number of wraps.
To use the wrap calculator you'll need to know the size of the jig or wick you'll be using to wrap the coil around.
no i did actually work that out with the coil one.. im using 3mm silica with 32aWg kenthal so the inner diamater of the coil will be 3mm yes? then it said it will need 2.94 wraps to make 1.5ohm coil that was straight foward...
the one im having trouble with is where the amps fit in with the volt watt and ohm
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