Secondhand E-Cig Vapor - new junk article

[BigEgo]

www. yahoo .com/health/secondhand-e-cig-vapor-can-penetrate-paint-what-113444498677.html

Yahoo story about a recent "study." Of course Mr. Glantz is the one who says "vapor penetrates paint" and is copiously quoted in the article.

Actual study text:
www. rti .org/pubs/Secondhand_Exposure_to_Electronic_Cigarette_Emissions.pdf

 

[Foggin Munky]

Yea well, my flatulence can PEEL paint. What's that mean for my poor glutes?!?!

Seriously, though, this warrants some (just a little) looking into. Thanks 4 the hedzup

 

[caramel]

Yahoo story about a recent "study." Of course Mr. Glantz is the one who says "vapor penetrates paint" and is copiously quoted in the article.

Actual study text www .rti.org/pubs/Secondhand_Exposure_to_Electronic_Cigarette_Emissions.pdf"]here.

So does water.

As for the ultra-fine particles. There's a substantial difference between solid particles (as in combustion byproducts) and liquid droplets. Calling droplets "particles" is disingenous at best. A mechanical engineer like Mr. Glantz should have known that.

 

[WhiteHighlights]

IIRC, RTI got govt. funding to do the 'research'.. and no surprise, is laying the groundwork to get even more:

Further study is needed to determine which device engineering characteristics and liquid compositions might reduce or minimize potential secondhand exposures from e-cigarette use.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Its all about money.

 

[EBates]

Yep, vaping harms paint, BT, BP, BG profits and must be destroyed. While cigarettes should be encouraged to all, cause as we all know, they are regulated by the FDA, the root of all that is good and pure.

 

[Robino1]

I broke the links to the junk articles.

Please read this link to understand why I did this: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...g-links-junk-science-other-rubbish-posts.html

 

[caramel]

Robino, can we have some different way of breaking them that would be easier to reconstitute when using a tablet? those blanks are aghhhhh gah grrr

PS and BTW we need more emoticons too lol

 

[OlderNDirt]

I can't, won't, or am too lazy to visit the links. Can somebody please tell me is penetration pre or post drying?

 

[Ryedan]

PS and BTW we need more emoticons too lol

There are actually a ton of emoticons out there. I use Koloboks sometimes.

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[Bunnykiller]

I wonder if they tested with flat latex or hi gloss oil..... flat latex can soak up anything....

 

[SissySpike]

Whew that was to close for comfort. I was this close to painting my lungs that cool day glow green Then I couldn't of vaped any more Thanks OP Id of been stuck with thousands of dollars worth of useless vape gear had you not posted this!

 

[The Torch]

I refuse to add clicks to anti-vaping stuff... I don't want to give them more power or visibility BUT.... for those who read the articles, does that mean that cigarette smoke does not penetrate paint? How about sweat and steak smoke? Cat pee, perhaps? Should I avoid touching my walls altogether??? And, if vape does penetrate paint, does it not mean it could clean out the tar from my lungs faster? Does chlorine not remove cells from our esophagus and kill bacteria in our guts? If none of these answers are in the research, then they need to do more research before publishing, period.

 

[Completely Average]

I would have thought that common sense would say that ecig vapor can penetrate paint. Water vapor can penetrate paint which is why houses in damp climates can develop mold in and under the paint. If paint was a water-tight seal then you would never hear of water damage on a painted surface.

 

[Woofer]

Oh my, drywall worldwide trembles in abject fear.

 

[SHOCK COLLAR]

just heard this BS on the radio from an ex-smoking newsman.
smoke will coat paint and make it 3rd hand toxic

 

[Alien Traveler]

The most idiotic statements in the paper were made by Stanton Glantz, Ph.D, "professor of medicine at University of California, San Francisco and director of the UCSF Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education".

The guy has no idea about difference in between solid and liquid particles and he tries to frighten people by particles “penetrating blood vessels” – liquid particles are dissolved in contact with wet surface of lungs. What an idiot! (Beware professors-idiots, their opinions much more harmful for general public). You may want to send him emails explaining his mistake. I am sure he will be happy.

 

[AndriaD]

The most idiotic statements in the paper were made by Stanton Glantz, Ph.D, "professor of medicine at University of California, San Francisco and director of the UCSF Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education".

The guy has no idea about difference in between solid and liquid particles and he tries to frighten people by particles “penetrating blood vessels” – liquid particles are dissolved in contact with wet surface of lungs. What an idiot! (Beware professors-idiots, their opinions much more harmful for general public). You may want to send him emails explaining his mistake. I am sure he will be happy.

Did it really say he was a professor of medicine? I thought he was an engineer or something like that.

Andria

 

[Alien Traveler]

Did it really say he was a professor of medicine? I thought he was an engineer or something like that.

Andria

Yes. I just copy-pasted.

 

[AndriaD]

Yes. I just copy-pasted.

Well, that just goes to show you what idiots are willing to publish anything he says. If they ever make a "Dumb and Dumber III" he could be the star!

Andria