Sense Hydra Tank (1.8) - anyone using this?

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This seems to be the 1.8 coil tank that's slipped through the cracks. I don't see any threads on it. The reviews seems to all be pretty glowing overall, except for the glass which sounds like it can be a pain when replacing coils. Tony's review below.

If it had a larger juice capacity, I think I'd already have one. Just wondering if anyone is using this and has some thoughts. I'm tempted.


 

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I own 3 Hydras, bad ... little tank! Yep if you change the coil better make sure tabk is empty bc glass portion comes apart, other than that I love it. Top fill, Vapes excellent flavor and ample cloud production with decent airflow. I use 70vg higher juices and it keeps up 30-40w depends on juice no problem have not had a dry hit yet. It does need refilling often. Kinda enjoy it better than my jinky Starre.
 
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Wow nice. Just who I was looking for. That wattage is really impressive for a 1.8. When I first saw the coils, I thought they were just Aspire BVC knock offs. Apparently not the case.

Any chance you've tried 50/50 or 50pg/60VG with it? Seems like a lot of these new coils are only made for high vg, just curious if it spits up juice for you on anything lower.

I think I'd love this thing....but man refilling it all day, bah. I just don't know.
 

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60vg lowest I vape have to turn watts down cause it seems to "cook" the liquid changes the taste. Thats why I have 3 with diff liquids cuts down on fill time. Coils last pretty long, about a week, then I just rinse em under hot water and let them air dry about a day. Same 5 pack of coils over a month now.

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I just ordered one of these, a black stripes accented one. Currently I've been using 2 Nautilus Minis that I alternate regularly. I haven't tried the new Clapton coils for them yet, but the latest regular cotton coil heads are only so, so (for the Nautilus). They clog and burnout fairly quickly, though the first day's vape on them is a generally a very good MTL vape. I tried sub ohm'ing on a Subtank, and building my own coils on a Kayfun, but neither was for me. I just like a good mouth-to-lung vape using factory coils that last a decent period of time. The Nautilus coils don't. The older ceramic coil heads actually worked somewhat better in my opinion - even at higher wattages. The ceramic caused me no issues.

For the Herakles Hydra I've bought a slightly narrower 9-hole airflow control 510 drip tip made of stainless steel and delrin. That should help get a better MTL vape when using the Hydra's smallest air intake hole size, I hope. Though I've got a 75 watt IPV D2 I love to use regularly just in power mode, I don't think I'll be using the nickel Hydra coils, but I will give the one included nickel coil a shot. The TC things just seems to be all about sub ohm'ing. Good airflow is needed for the whole TC concept to work on sub ohm coils, which is all there is for TC. I tried TC with Vapor Shark nickel Nautilus coils, but it just didn't work well with the restricted (but good for MTL) airflow available on a Nautilus.

I look forward to trying out the Hydra tank, and will report back here how well it works out for mouth-to-lung vaping specifically.
 

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Oh I only Vape 0 or 3 nic in this tank anything higher I get nic rush, so prob watch your nic level..just an after thought.

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The lowest juice I have is 6mg nic., which is weak TH for me in a Nautilus, but 12mg juice is a little high. I'll just have to see how that works out in the Hydra. If I have to, I can always get more of the same juice in 0mg nic and mix that with the 6mg stuff. Too bad, as I already just order some new 6mg stuff to try.

I keep putting the hydra in my cart then talking myself out of it because the coils look like the aspire. Hmmm maybe I should give them a try.

From what I can see from pictures, the Hydra is a bit bigger of a coil head, with a much larger air intake on the bottom of the coil head compared to the Nautilus - and the inner diameter of the coil itself appears wider too. The size and number of the juice channels looks very similar though. Something looks different about the coil itself, but I'm not sure about that. I searched, but found no video or pics of anyone tearing apart a Hydra coil to see how it looks on the inside.

These tanks seem fairly commonly available, though I noticed price ranges on the tank and its coils range quiet a bit. About $20 for the tank itself, and $11 for a 5-pack of coils is a good price. Shipping costs and vendor reputation (and speed of delivery) will be the final deciding factor on who to buy from. The 1.8 ohm coils themselves tend to be out of stock, or unavailable at half the places I've looked that actually sell the tank, while the nickel coils appear to be more regularly in stock. Places that have the tank at a high price often have the coils at a good price, but then places with a lower price on the tank often have a higher (up to 50% higher) price on the coils. Annoying.
 
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I'm still loving this tank, but it's a really warm vape. So just an fyi. 6 nic is fine for me since I don't use it above 22 watts or so. But since you can take it to 50W....I could see getting into trouble with 6 nic as you go up.
Hmmm I normally vape between 10-14 W so I wonder if this would still be o.k for me.
 

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Hmmm I normally vape between 10-14 W so I wonder if this would still be o.k for me.

Yeah, I usually vape just a tad higher, but I've found that 20W or so is where the vapor starts coming through. Honestly, if you really like 10-14 W, I'm not sure this would be a good fit. Mainly because the vapor production would be lacking at that wattage. But it's also sort of it's own thing.

If you like a really warm vape with a tight draw, I think it's worth a shot. But if you like a cooler vape at lower wattage, then I'd probably recommend something more like the Innokin Apex with the 2.0 coil.
 

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Yeah, I usually vape just a tad higher, but I've found that 20W or so is where the vapor starts coming through. Honestly, if you really like 10-14 W, I'm not sure this would be a good fit. Mainly because the vapor production would be lacking at that wattage. But it's also sort of it's own thing.

If you like a really warm vape with a tight draw, I think it's worth a shot. But if you like a cooler vape at lower wattage, then I'd probably recommend something more like the Innokin Apex with the 2.0 coil.
Thanks for the great info. I think I am going to try one because now I am curious. I will remember to increase watts and lower nic. I vape 12mg,10-14W,1.8 on the nautilus and atlantis with triton coil so this might be a nice change ,who knows. I am more of a flavor junkie than clouds..
 

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Thanks for the great info. I think I am going to try one because now I am curious. I will remember to increase watts and lower nic. I vape 12mg,10-14W,1.8 on the nautilus and atlantis with triton coil so this might be a nice change ,who knows. I am more of a flavor junkie than clouds..

Ah nice. Yeah grab yourself some 6 nic and you should be good for this. I was exactly in the same boat as you, and because of those Triton 1.8 coils that can also go slightly higher, it actually got me off 12 nic and down to 6 permanently. Best of luck!
 
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I received my Sense Herakles Hydra tank last night. A day earlier than expected, along with a separate shipment of new 6mg nic juice, so I was excited. I love vape mail. The tank looks nice. The top fill system is dead simple. I think the juice fill holes should be a little bigger. That's not a problem if you use a needle-nosed bottle or syringe though, so it's not a big deal. The only way to widen the fill holes would be to widen the tank itself a millimeter or two, and that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. The tank is small. It is very similar in size to a Nautilus Mini, though a bit shorter with the stock drip tip, but also a bit heavier. I tried 3 different 510 drip tips, including the wide bore one that came with the tank. All the drip tips I used fit tight without any wobble issues. The drip tip that comes with the tank is way too wide bore for MTL vaping, but I guess it is a nice tip of its type for direct lung hits.

6mg nic juice was the lowest nicotine level juice I had to use in this tank. Even at lower wattage settings I think that was a bit too much throat hit for the Hydra. At lower wattage settings flavor was still actually not bad - though a bit sharply one note without much complexity, and vapor production was okay - but nothing spectacular. When using narrower drip tips with the lowest airflow setting, I found the draw on the Hydra to still be too loose for a decent feeling mouth-to-lung hit. Blocking one of the air intake holes with a finger helped, but I can't see doing that regularly, and the tank quickly gets too hot for that to be comfortable for long anyway. With airflow reduced to the lowest setting, at just 15 watts, the vapor already quickly gets fairly warm - and then flat out hot when chain vaping. Despite that, the coil kept up easily with no dry hit issues - even when the tank was very low on juice. I had no leak issues.

On wider open air intake settings, using a wider bore drip tip, at higher wattages, vapor production gradually increases, and flavor becomes more refined, but flavor then also becomes more muted somehow, losing some of its pop - until you increase the wattage even more. The vape is still warm, and the tank still gets hot, but not as quickly. For mouth-to-lung hits, the vapor, throat hit and warmth just became too much for me to be enjoyable at all by about 25 watts, so I did not go any higher. I also started getting much dryer vapor at about that wattage, which I did not really like - though the coil still wasn't dry hitting, even though I was still just taking MTL hits. I honestly wouldn't even know how to take a decent direct lung hit - even if I was forced to at gunpoint. My lungs and larynx just fail to cooperate when I try, or I end up choking like a teenager trying their first cigarette. A much lower nicotine level juice would probably help with that, some.

I honestly don't see what people enjoy about doing the direct lung hit thing - other than the fairly massive clouds. It just isn't pleasant to me, but to each their own.

In conclusion, the Sense Herakles Hydra is a nicely made, easy to use, great looking, small and lightweight sub ohm tank that is completely inappropriate for mouth-to-lung vaping in any way, shape or form - unless you are some kind of masochist. Its tightest draw, even with a narrow bore Kayfun drip tip on it, is still not even remotely "tight". But even if you do that, with the reduced airflow everything becomes way too warm anyway, so the whole exercise becomes increasingly pointless. The Nautilus Mini, as imperfect a clearomizer as it is, is still a much nicer device to mouth-to-lung hit on than any sub ohm tank with higher ohm coils I've tried (3 so far).

As they are cheap, despite their own set of imperfections, I think I will try the 1.5 ohm dual-coil eLeaf GS Air M or MS tanks next, and also the new 1.8 ohm Clapton coils for the Nautilus and Triton Mini in the Nautilus Minis I already have. The Innokin iSub Apex with 2 ohm coils sounded potentially interesting, but those recommending it for MTL use all seem to be direct lung hit types - who have maybe completely forgotten how a pleasant and satisfying mouth-to-lung hit is supposed to feel, so I think I will take a pass on trying that tank.
 
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I received my Sense Herakles Hydra tank last night. A day earlier than expected, along with a separate shipment of new 6mg nic juice, so I was excited. I love vape mail. The tank looks nice. The top fill system is dead simple. I think the juice fill holes should be a little bigger. That's not a problem if you use a needle-nosed bottle or syringe though, so it's not a big deal. The only way to widen the fill holes would be to widen the tank itself a millimeter or two, and that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. The tank is small. It is very similar in size to a Nautilus Mini, though a bit shorter with the stock drip tip, but also a bit heavier. I tried 3 different 510 drip tips, including the wide bore one that came with the tank. All the drip tips I used fit tight without any wobble issues. The drip tip that comes with the tank is way too wide bore for MTL vaping, but I guess it is a nice tip of its type for direct lung hits.

6mg nic juice was the lowest nicotine level juice I had to use in this tank. Even at lower wattage settings I think that was a bit too much throat hit for the Hydra. At lower wattage settings flavor was still actually not bad - though a bit sharply one note without much complexity, and vapor production was okay - but nothing spectacular. When using narrower drip tips with the lowest airflow setting, I found the draw on the Hydra to still be too loose for a decent feeling mouth-to-lung hit. Blocking one of the air intake holes with a finger helped, but I can't see doing that regularly, and the tank quickly gets too hot for that to be comfortable for long anyway. With airflow reduced to the lowest setting, at just 15 watts, the vapor already quickly gets fairly warm - and then flat out hot when chain vaping. Despite that, the coil kept up easily with no dry hit issues - even when the tank was very low on juice. I had no leak issues.

On wider open air intake settings, using a wider bore drip tip, at higher wattages, vapor production gradually increases, and flavor becomes more refined, but flavor then also becomes more muted somehow, losing some of its pop - until you increase the wattage even more. The vape is still warm, and the tank still gets hot, but not as quickly. For mouth-to-lung hits, the vapor, throat hit and warmth just became too much for me to be enjoyable at all by about 25 watts, so I did not go any higher. I also started getting much dryer vapor at about that wattage, which I did not really like - though the coil still wasn't dry hitting, even though I was still just taking MTL hits. I honestly wouldn't even know how to take a decent direct lung hit - even if I was forced to at gunpoint. My lungs and larynx just fail to cooperate when I try, or I end up choking like a teenager trying their first cigarette. A much lower nicotine level juice would probably help with that, some.

I honestly don't see what people enjoy about doing the direct lung hit thing - other than the fairly massive clouds. It just isn't pleasant to me, but to each their own.

In conclusion, the Sense Herakles Hydra is a nicely made, easy to use, great looking, small and lightweight sub ohm tank that is completely inappropriate for mouth-to-lung vaping in any way, shape or form - unless you are some kind of masochist. Its tightest draw, even with a narrow bore Kayfun drip tip on it, is still not even remotely "tight". But even if you do that, with the reduced airflow everything becomes way too warm anyway, so the whole exercise becomes increasingly pointless. The Nautilus Mini, as imperfect a clearomizer as it is, is still a much nicer device to mouth-to-lung hit on than any sub ohm tank with higher ohm coils I've tried (3 so far).

As they are cheap, despite their own set of imperfections, I think I will try the 1.5 ohm dual-coil eLeaf GS Air M or MS tanks next, and also the new 1.8 ohm Clapton coils for the Nautilus and Triton Mini in the Nautilus Minis I already have. The Innokin iSub Apex with 2 ohm coils sounded potentially interesting, but those recommending it for MTL use all seem to be direct lung hit types - who have maybe completely forgotten how a pleasant and satisfying mouth-to-lung hit is supposed to feel, so I think I will take a pass on trying that tank.

I totally feel you. The definition of MTL has sort of changed. I like the Hydra for what it is, but most of these are not a true tight draw like there was back in the day. The apex is great for an airy MTL, but it's hard to get the tight draw.

The only one that currently fits the bill is the Innokin Endura. It really is an incredible tight draw. But I just saw that a newer version is already coming out which will have a bigger battery and hold 4.5 mils. Look up the T22; I think that's the answer.
 

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Yeah, I usually vape just a tad higher, but I've found that 20W or so is where the vapor starts coming through. Honestly, if you really like 10-14 W, I'm not sure this would be a good fit. Mainly because the vapor production would be lacking at that wattage. But it's also sort of it's own thing.

I'll confirm this. I originally got this tank for my Vamo V2; which only goes up to 15w. It worked...but it didn't blow anyone away. Now I have it on an IPV D2. I run it at around 30w. It's vapor production is much better now!.
 

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I have a hydra its a great looking tank but thats about it, there is no way it will handle 50 watts anything over 22-23 i get burnt hits i tried 90vg 70vg and 50/50 and the flavor is not good my kanger nano out performs it in every way. its the hydras coils they are terrible i hope they come out with a .5 kanthal coil im trying to find other coils that will fit this tank so i can atleast use it.
 
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