Should I pull the trigger on this order??!!

[valooper]

So here is my little list that I thought of from all my research that i did here on ecf for doing my own diy liquid what do you guys think is it a good starter list do you think that i will have enough to make some good e liquid through trial and error? and also if there is anything that i need to add please let me know.

I do know that i have not included a tool box and safety equipment those are on a separate list from a second supplier

1. PG USP Grade 1000ml= $18.75
2. VG USP Grade 1000ml= $18.75
3. USP Kosher Certified 500ml of 48mg Flavorless Nicotine Liquid= 37.50
4. X20 3ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $7.40
5. X20 5ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $7.80
6. X20 10ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $9.80
7. X100 15ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $54.00
8. X10 30ml glass dripper bottles= $11.90
9. X3 5ml measuring cylinder= $14.97
10. X3 10ml measuring cylinder= $13.17
11. X3 glass mixing rod= $4.47
12. X4 25ml low beaker= $5.16
13. X4 50ml Erlenmeyer flask= $9.96
14. x2 25pk of 3ml dropette transfer pipettes= $7.50
15. x20 1cc luer slip syringe w/cap= $10.00
16. x20 3cc luer slip syringe w/cap= $10.60
17. x20 5cc luer slip syringe w/cap= $13.60
18. x20 10cc luer slip syringe w/cap= $14.60
19. x10 18ga x 1 ½” blunt tip needle= $8.90
20. x10 20ga x 1 ½” blunt tip needle= $8.90
21. x10 14ga x 1 ½” blunt tip needle= $9.90
22. x10 16ga x 1 ½” blunt tip needle= $9.90
23. bavarian crème 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
24. butterscotch 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
25. caramel 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
26. chocolate 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
27. vanilla bourbon 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
28. cappuccino 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
29. coffee kona 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
30. coffee 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
31. mocha 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
32. apple 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
33. banana crème 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
34. black cherry 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
35. blueberry 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
36. dragonfruit 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
37. key lime 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
38. kiwi 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
39. lemon 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
40. mango 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
41. maraschino cherry 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
42. Passion Fruit 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
43. Peach 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
44. Pineapple 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
45. Raspberry 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
46. ripe banana 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
47. strawberry 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
48. creme de menthe flavor 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
49. peanut butter 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
50. honey 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
51. maple syrup 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
52. sweet cream 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
53. sweetener 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
54. brandy 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
55. irish crème 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
56. jamaican rum 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
57. pina colada 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
58. white chocolate 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
59. kalua and cream type 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.75
60. expresso 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.85
61. banana nut 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.85
62. orange crème 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.85
63. strawberries and crème 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.85
64. pear 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.89
65. tutti-frutti 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.89
66. peppermint 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.89
67. brown sugar 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $2.89
68. caramel cappuccino 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $3.00
69. menthol 10ml the flavor Apprentice Flavor= $3.20

 

[Blueser]

Personally I'd buy VT nic and would diversify my flavor order to include FA, INW at the very least as opposed to buying all TPA flavors

 

[valooper]

oh yeah i well was thinking of going with pg nic because i want to stay towards the vg in my fixs and i was thinking that if i got pg nic then it would help thin it out a bit?....or am i wrong?

wait you said vt nic? what is vt nic?

And yeah I was going to do that also i just figured that if i stuck with one brand of flavor i could get better with mixing at first because i know how that flavor work.....what do you think?

 

[dannyv45]

That's a lot of flavors to start off with and Blusier is correct. If your going to buy that many flavors you should sample from different manufactures. I for one know that TFA are difficult flavors for the new DYI'er to work with. I would recommend spreading it out between TFA, Hangsen, FA, Capalla and inawera. Another thing is so may flavors tend to overload your thought process and cause most of the flavors to never get open or used. So my recommendation is to carefully think about what you want to vape and start off small. This way if you find DYI fustrating or not for you then you didn't just waste your money on all that stuff.

 

[Blueser]

VapersTek nic. If I had to chose one brand it would be FlavourArt. JMO

 

[dannyv45]

I also want to add that your really over buying your mixing equipment. All you need to start off with is a few (10) 5 - 10ml bottles to make your samples a few 1oz bottles to store your finished mix a few syringes (2 of each) 1ml w/ 20-22ga needle, 3ml used same needle as 1ml, 10ml w/ 14ga needle and maybe a 50ml measuring cylinder.

If you find DYI is for you then you can splurge.

Also make sure you get a good e-juice calculator like the E-juicemeup calculator.

 

[valooper]

That's a lot of flavors to start off with and Blusier is correct. If your going to buy that many flavors you should sample from different manufactures. I for one know that TFA are difficult flavors for the new DYI'er to work with. I would recommend spreading it out between TFA, Hangsen, FA, Capalla and inawera. Another thing is so may flavors tend to overload your thought process and cause most of the flavors to never get open or used. So my recommendation is to carefully think about what you want to vape and start off small. This way if you find DYI fustrating or not for you then you didn't just waste your money on all that stuff.

I also want to add that your really over buying your mixing equipment. All you need to start off with is a few (10) 5 - 10ml bottles to make your samples a few 1oz bottles to store your finished mix a few syringes (2 of each) 1ml, 3ml 10ml and maybe a 50ml measuring cylinder.

If you find DYI is for you then you can splurge.

Yeah no that makes perfect sense I just was worried because its very hard to get anything shipped to me that i can easily go pickup lol so i just didnt want to run out but is that the proper glassware? and labware?

VapersTek nic. If I had to chose one brand it would be FlavourArt. JMO

Sweet i will give them a try also and mix and match some of my flavors

 

[dannyv45]

I've become a seasoned mixer with just the tools that I've recommended. What you have listed is all correct but in my opinon overkill. I also used an ultrasonic cleaner to steep my mixes but again thats overkill for you at this point. If you have the cash and are not worried about spending it while not knowing if DYI is even right for you then sure go for it. But if a month down the road you quit DYI and start thinking why did I waste all this money on this. Then go with what I recommend because the less you spend the less it will hurt in the pocketbook..

 

[Blueser]

Seriously...give me VT nic, FlavoutArt, Inawera and Hangsen and I could/can easily live without all the rest. There are a few select flavors I like from TPA/Cap...but nothing that is a show stopper

 

[CreepyLady]

+1 on every ounce of advice above I have a pile of unused mix ware that is totally unnecessary and tfa flavors that are NOT so amusing. Breaking up the different flavor companies is extremely wise. You can use a site like bullcity or ecigxpress to order flavors from a variety of vendors.

I use TFA marshmallow and whipped cream out of like 80 of their flavors, I find other than marshmallow and whipped cream - flavourart and inawera have much more realistic and easier to work with flavors.

If you want to get a large quantity to keep shipping easy try something more like -

Nic, Pg, VG and Inawera flavors in a vaperstek.org order and then a spattering of bottles and syringes (I use 3ml, 10ml and 30ml syringes religiously) (pipettes are useless pains IMO-YMMV) an some TFA and Flavourart flavors from Bull City Vapor - Best Prices on DIY e-liquid Supplies

If you check the Inawera and Flavourart threads here - you will see details from members on each flavor so you can narrow down what you may want as well. (example - instead of ordering TFA coffee, coffee kona and cappucino - you may find one great coffee flavor (*cough*cough* Inawera Coffee*) and then you can also mix it with a cream and another flavor to totally change that one flavor into cappucino from plain coffee .

I hope the above makes sense Getting an overwhelming amount of flavors from only one company can be a bit disheartening - especially when they are a bit more testy to work with. Try a variety and you are bound to end up with some tasty results

 

[Lurch]

I got about 4 1ml, 5ml syringes and one 10 ml syringe. One of the 5ml is strictly for nicotine and is marked as such. I cover the markings with tape to prevent them from washing off or fading and I wash them thoroughly after each mixing session.

I got a couple of those pipettes, but have never used them. Tried once but they were a pain so I use syringes.

I do not use any mixing vials. I mix in the bottle, 5ml for test samples, 30 ml for ones I like and vape a lot. I have a bunch of 15ml bottles from commercial mixes that I have used (just wash them out and reuse).

Good luck and enjoy! It becomes addictive!!

 

[cbabbman]

if you know your own personal flavor profile, perhaps do some research on what other DIY people are using in their recipes.

You will probably find some flavors from specific manufacturers that are being used in all kinds of different recipes... on my end, it's things like TFA graham cracker, whipped cream, etc...

On my main flavors, it was Capella's Vanilla Custard and some chocolates like Flavorwest Double Dutch Twister and Capella Double Chocolate and finally, Loranne Bavarian Cream...

regardless, it will help you nail down some of the real things you need to have in order to get you started...

 

[Heabob]

I picked up a few cheap syringes at TSC, but the needles were sharp, and I just snip the ends off.

The TFA flavors I use the most are:

Graham Cracker (Clear)
Cheesecake (Graham Crust)
Brown Sugar Extra
Marshmallow
Whipped Cream
Vanilla Swirl
Sweet Cream
Blueberry Wild
Orange Cream
Cinnamon Danish
Root Beer Float is pretty good too

These are the essential flavors for me anyway IMO.
So... just trying to help you narrow it down a bit.

Capella, Inawera, FlavorArt, VZ, and Hangsen all have "essentials" too, but too numerous to list here.

Good Luck

 

[Raex]

4. X20 3ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $7.40
5. X20 5ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $7.80
6. X20 10ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $9.80
7. X100 15ml plastic bottles with dripper cap= $54.00
8. X10 30ml glass dripper bottles= $11.90

Thats 170 bottles. I've been DIYing for a few months and I've only needed about 35.

 

[valooper]

Thats 170 bottles. I've been DIYing for a few months and I've only needed about 35.

Haha i know right i just didnt want to run out.......but i am starting to re think this with your guys info it really good thanks

 

[valooper]

Alright so I am going to rethink this list and look at my bottle obsession and long with mixing flavor companys and might ever look at some recipes that i might like and just order those flavors

thanks for the info you guys


So another question is about storing the nic I really dont have a freezer to store it in I have a little one but it does not get to -10 it probably gets to 10-25 degrees?? any ideas?

 

[CreepyLady]

Alright so I am going to rethink this list and look at my bottle obsession and long with mixing flavor companys and might ever look at some recipes that i might like and just order those flavors

thanks for the info you guys


So another question is about storing the nic I really dont have a freezer to store it in I have a little one but it does not get to -10 it probably gets to 10-25 degrees?? any ideas?

As long as you arent ordering a supply to last longer than ~2 years - just keeping it out of the warmth and direct sun is fine. The freezer storage is mostly for folks ordering a supply to last for copious amounts of time.

 

[valooper]

As long as you arent ordering a supply to last longer than ~2 years - just keeping it out of the warmth and direct sun is fine. The freezer storage is mostly for folks ordering a supply to last for copious amounts of time.

oh ok so my 500 ml should be fine right? was gunna get a 55 gallon drum but decided......not to......lol

 

[CreepyLady]

oh ok so my 500 ml should be fine right? was gunna get a 55 gallon drum but decided......not to......lol

Exactly - even if you just move it to glass and store it in the fridge on your rig - no worries at all for around 2 years.

 

[valooper]

Exactly - even if you just move it to glass and store it in the fridge on your rig - no worries at all for around 2 years.

sweet deal thanks i am so glad to be quitting in october so 2 yrs is cherry