Show Me Vapers: Vaping Reference Information

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I thought that the Show Me Vapers social group should start a vaping reference information thread for the purpose of centralizing all of our experiences and knowledge about vaping, so that we can all learn about vaping together. I feel that everyone has something to bring to the table when it comes to the broad world of vaping. My desire for this thread is to be a technical education reference tool, so that people can better understand the nuts and bolts of electronic cigarette operation/function. I figured that in time this thread can become a great reference tool for new and veteran vapers alike.
 
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[FONT="]How to roughly estimate how many batteries one would need to use through the course of a day in relation to their current or past smoking habit (How many tobacco cigarettes You smoke/smoked). Below is a basic equation that has been formulated to allow an individual to roughly estimate how many batteries that they would need in order to maintain their daily nicotine habit.

Variables:

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[FONT="]At this point, YOU should plug in your own personal values for the variables listed below. basically figure out roughly: your current battery platform metrics, your average draw time and number of tobacco cigarettes you smoke/smoked on a daily average. For example purposes, generic values have been assigned to the listed variables. [/FONT]
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1. Battery: 3.7v 500mAh Li ion Battery (Generic Example)
2. Average Draw Length: 5 sec (varies from person to person)
3. Average Analog Cigarette's Number of Draws: 15 Draws (On the high end)
4. Number of Analog Cigarettes Per Pack: 20 Cigarettes
5. Number of Packs YOU Smoke/ Smoked A Day: 1 Pack (Generic Example)

Battery Basics:

Information Gleaned From Wikipedia:

An ampere-hour or amp-hour (symbol Ah , A·h, A h) is a unit of electric charge, with sub-units milliampere-hour (mAh) and milliampere second (mAs). One ampere-hour is equal to 3,600 coulombs (ampere-seconds), the electric charge transferred by a steady current of one ampere for one hour.[1]

The ampere-hour is frequently used in measurements of electrochemical systems such as electroplating and electrical batteries.

The commonly seen milliampere-hour (mAh or mA·h) is one-thousandth of an ampere-hour (i.e., 3.6 coulombs), and is a technical term for how much electrical charge a particular battery will hold. Small batteries, such as those in laptops and digital cameras, are often rated in milliampere-hours. As an example, digital camera batteries with higher mAh values theoretically last longer without requiring a recharge, allowing one to take more photographs before having to replace the batteries.

Calculation:

1. Generic Battery = 500mAh or 0.5 ampere-hour

2. 1000mAh = 1 hr of steady current

3. 500 ÷ 1000 = 0.5

4. 1hr = 60 min

5. 0.5 x 60 min = 30 min

6. So, 500mAh =
30 min of steady current

7. Average Draw (assuming) = 5 sec

8. 1 min = 60 sec

9. 30 min x 60 = 1800 sec

10. 1800 sec ÷ 5 =
360 Draws

11. Average Analog Cigarette's Number of Draws = 15 Draws (on the high end)

12. 360 Draws ÷ 15 =
24 Analog Cigarettes

13. Number of Analog Cigarettes Per Pack = 20 Cigarettes

14. 24 Analog Cigarettes ÷ 20 =
1.2 Packs of Analog Cigarettes

15. Number of Packs YOU Smoked a Day = 1 (for example)

16. 1.2 Packs of Analog Cigarettes ÷ 1 =
1.2 Days of Regular Smoking

Conclusion:

If we lived in a perfect world, with no other variables present a generic battery that is actually registered at 500mAh "could" last a one pack per day smoker/ex-smoker, 1.2 days. Basically, one generic 500mAh battery could float a one pack per day smoker/ex-smoker an entire day, for purposes of vaping. In reality, with variables like: heat, incorrectly marked battery mAh, length of draw, atomizer efficiency, atomizer Ohm, battery voltage drop off, material resistance, electronic personal vaporizer design, battery age, variable discharge rates, battery chemistry, personal vaping/smoking habits, ad nauseum, etc., an average vaper should expect to go through at least two 500mAh batteries in the course of a single day of average vaping. Again, this is a rough way to estimate one's own battery necessities, not an etched in stone fact. It is always best to assume that you need more batteries than what the above equation generates, because of the other variables that have been discussed. I hope that this has been informative and will be a useful tool for vapers to base their battery purchases off of.
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This is a link to web page that provides a useful calculator for figuring Voltage, Amperage, Resistance and Wattage. It also has the equations for figuring electric properties manually. This page will be useful for those who are trying to find the "sweet spot" for vapor production when shopping around for: mods, batteries, atomizers, etc.. This page will be especially useful for anyone interested in comparing and contrasting high and low volt mods as well as comparing high and low resistance atomizers. Basically, this web page and the equations that it contains, will allow vapers to accurately discern what products best fit their vaping needs.
 
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Pretty informative kdd121s. I figured I would post some additional information about exactly what voltage, amperage, and ohms are and how they are relevant to the E-Cig experience. Here are some quick definitions and links to several web pages that further detail the concepts that are being addressed.

Voltage : is the amount of electrical energy being transferred.

Amperage : is the speed of the flow of the electrical charge.

Ohms : is the amount of resistance between Point A and Point B on a wire or circuit.
 
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Here is a link to a website that has a fairly large collection of PVs, Mods, Pass-throughs, etc. http://www.ecigarette-mods.com/

The site has pictures, statics, costs, materials, manufacturer's information, manufacturer's website, etc. for all of the E-Cig equipment listed. I figure this will be a useful tool for new and veteran vapers to compare and contrast devices when considering a purchase.
 
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Here is a list of hyperlinks to several E-Cig Reviewers. I figure this will be a useful tool for new and veteran vapers within the Show Me Vapers social group for comparing and contrasting different E-Cig products. This is not a complete list of all E-Cig Reviewers, but it covers most of the major names.

YouTube - igetcha69's Channel

YouTube - GrimmGreen's Channel

YouTube - dhenschel05's Channel

YouTube - dumwaldo's Channel

YouTube - moobyghost's Channel

YouTube - phee303's Channel

YouTube - BigJimW10's Channel

Again, this is not a complete list of all the E-Cig Reviewers that are out there uploading informative reviews. This is just a good starting point for trying to find a video review for many of the most popular E-Cigs used on the market today.
 
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Here is some further clarified information in reference to electricity. This also contains hyperlinks to additional & more in depth explanations about Voltage, Amperage and Ohms.

Volt: Volt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia : the SI unit of potential difference and electromotive force, formally defined to be the difference of electric potential between two points of a conductor carrying a constant current of one ampere, when the power dissipated between these points is equal to one watt. Abbreviation: V.


Ampere: Ampere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia : the base SI unit of electrical current, equivalent to one coulomb per second, formally defined to be the constant current which if maintained in two straight parallel conductors of infinite length, of negligible circular cross section, and placed one meter apart in vacuum, would produce between these conductors a force equal to 2 × 10 −7 newton per meter of length. Abbreviation: A, amp.

Ohm: Ohm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia : the SI unit of electrical resistance, defined to be the electrical resistance between two points of a conductor when a constant potential difference applied between these points produces in this conductor a current of one ampere. The resistance in ohms is numerically equal to the magnitude of the potential difference. Symbol: Ω.
 
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Here are three hyperlinks to some fairly detailed information concerning Propylene Glycol, which is a major component in many electronic cigarette liquids. The first link is to the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Propylene Glycol. The second link is to the Propylene Glycol official website. The third and final link is to Wikipedia for general overview & reference purposes.

Link 1: http://www.ppe.com/msds/Propylene Glycol.pdf

Link 2: Propylene Glycol : All about propylene glycol

Link 3: Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Everyone should know what exactly they are consuming on a daily basis and electronic cigarette liquids are no exception. As there are simply too many liquids on the market today that have a variety of substances in them, I feel that addressing each and every one of them in this thread would be just short of a nightmare. A great reference tool for learning the properties of the substances found in electronic cigarette liquids is a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS).

A Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) is a form containing data regarding the properties of a particular substance. An important component of product stewardship and workplace safety, it is intended to provide workers and emergency personnel with procedures for handling or working with that substance in a safe manner, and includes information such as physical data (melting point, boiling point, flash point, etc.), toxicity, health effects, first aid, reactivity, storage, disposal, protective equipment, and spill-handling procedures. MSDS formats can vary from source to source within a country depending on national requirements.

Below is a hyperlink to a website that provides a free MSDS database search engine. Hopefully this useful reference tool will aid both new and veteran vapers in our social group with assessing electronic cigarette liquids in an objective fashion.

Link:http://www.msds.com/
 
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