Smok Alien quick question

[mimöschen]

Hello everyone

I'd like to know, if the Alien keeps the voltage, as the batteries get drained?
The h-priv for instance loses voltage with every puff, so I imagine, the chip does only downstep.
As long as my build is at 0.5 ohms or lower that's no problem, but at higher resistances the vapequality decreases significantly over time.

So my question is again, does the alien have a real voltageregulator? And if not, which dual 18650 mod has one, aside from dna or YiHi devices.

 

[Ben85]

Other experts in the field may give you a more accurate (or even correct answer!) but my Alien gives a consistent voltage until the battery is literally on its last legs. But saying that, so do all of my regulated mods. Perhaps I have never noticed before.

 

[mimöschen]

Thanks for your reply.
At which resistances do you vape normally?

 

[Nomoreash]

Building at higher than .5 ohm shouldn't cause output power to decline with use on a h-priv or any other regulated mod providing it's operating within spec, a quick check for the h-priv showed a coil resistance range from 0.1 - 3.0 ohms. Sounds more like a battery issue, malfunction or some other problem but that's not normal for a regulated mod.

As far as the Alien, I got great battery life with mine and it held output power through the charge cycle as it should.

 

[mimöschen]

Nope. No battery issue. My Samsungs 30q, LG Hd2 and Sanyo UR18650NSX work just fine.
Your explanation lacks a little, because if I'd calculate with your mentioned resistance of 3 ohms, the mod has to put out a voltage of about 26 volts. With a theoretical voltagelimit of 8,4 volts, thats an impossible feat. Aside from that, I noticed the voltagedrop with nearly all dual mods I used. So it seems that it's a common practice for modern mods to do only stepdown and just giving the theoretical max voltage of the device.

 

[jPhilly215]

My alien has not been seen since it abducted my family then ran off back to its mothership ....

 

[KenD]

Hello everyone

I'd like to know, if the Alien keeps the voltage, as the batteries get drained?
The h-priv for instance loses voltage with every puff, so I imagine, the chip does only downstep.
As long as my build is at 0.5 ohms or lower that's no problem, but at higher resistances the vapequality decreases significantly over time.

So my question is again, does the alien have a real voltageregulator? And if not, which dual 18650 mod has one, aside from DNA or YiHi devices.

What wattage are you at? If you push the batteries really hard the voltage drop will have an impact.

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[mimöschen]

I seldom vape beyond 75 watts. For most coilbuilds my sweetspot seems to be at around 60 watts.
But for larger coilbuilds, like a single 5 wrap kanthal clapton 26/32 at about 0.85 ohms, 60 watts are only possible with fresh batteries. Then the max voltage output starts to decline slowly, as the batteries get drained.

 

[KenD]

I seldom vape beyond 75 watts. For most coilbuilds my sweetspot seems to be at around 60 watts.
But for larger coilbuilds, like a single 5 wrap kanthal clapton 26/32 at about 0.85 ohms, 60 watts are only possible with fresh batteries. Then the max voltage output starts to decline slowly, as the batteries get drained.

I've not experienced any decline in vape quality as the battery charge goes down, but my voltage output is rarely over 5v. At 60w with a .85Ω coil you're at about 7v. Two batteries in series should handle that fine, even with voltage drop and without boost circuitry. I don't know what's going on.

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[mimöschen]

Max output I get from my dual mods seems to be around 7.5 volts.
Don't get me wrong. I don't really enjoy vaping at these high voltages, because it gets too hot for my tastes. At least over time. But my Pico for example is able to deliver a significantly higher voltage per battery, than any dual mods I've encountered so far, which leads me to the conclusion, that these do only downstep, but no real regulation.
Or am I missing something?

 

[Ben85]

Something is not right here as that has not been the case for me with any I have owned. Would love to help more, but I have no ideas that @KenD hasn't already said. Go get yourself a mech

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

Hello everyone

I'd like to know, if the Alien keeps the voltage, as the batteries get drained?
The h-priv for instance loses voltage with every puff, so I imagine, the chip does only downstep.
As long as my build is at 0.5 ohms or lower that's no problem, but at higher resistances the vapequality decreases significantly over time.

So my question is again, does the alien have a real voltageregulator? And if not, which dual 18650 mod has one, aside from DNA or YiHi devices.

the don't have a voltage regulator per se. The devices all use a DC-DC convertor. most have just buck capability but some have buck/boost. I'm pretty sure DNA mods are buck only. on boost.
I'd recommend a hohmwrecker G2. they hit very nice in watt mode, built like a tank, and have amazing temp control for any wire type. they sell for 65 bucks on vaporcube.com with coupon code G2FLASHx1


with that said they both have the same voltage and wattage range so the hpriv shouldn't diminish any faster then the alien. at higher resistance voltage goes up meaning as the batteries drain it's harder for it to maintain a solid hit.

I've not experienced any decline in vape quality as the battery charge goes down, but my voltage output is rarely over 5v. At 60w with a .85Ω coil you're at about 7v. Two batteries in series should handle that fine, even with voltage drop and without boost circuitry. I don't know what's going on.

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if his batteries start getting low plus count for efficiency it could become an issue. even at 3.6 volts on the battery (which is roughly 50% full) you are down to 7.2 volts. take efficiency of 90% on average you would need 7.8 volts from the battery to output 7 volts

Something is not right here as that has not been the case for me with any I have owned. Would love to help more, but I have no ideas that @KenD hasn't already said. Go get yourself a mech

a mech wouldn't help anything. they decline in power much faster then regulated mods do and then he needs to learn alot more about safety

 

[mimöschen]

@Voltage-regulator
Sorry. As I'm not a native english speaker, some of my wordings might not be as accurate as they could be.

Ah ok. So none of the "mainstream devices" are able to boost the voltage?

The Wrecker's specs look interesting so far. Thanks for that. But to be honest, the design isn't really my cup of tea.

Are there any other suggestions?

 

[Anthony_Vapes]

@Voltage-regulator
Sorry. As I'm not a native english speaker, some of my wordings might not be as accurate as they could be.

Ah ok. So none of the "mainstream devices" are able to boost the voltage?

The Wrecker's specs look interesting so far. Thanks for that. But to be honest, the design isn't really my cup of tea.

Are there any other suggestions?

If you vape at 100 or less watts you can look at the hohmslice. it's 30 bucks with code SLICEPRICE on the same site. takes a single 26650 battery

as far as "none" I'm not 100% sure but I don't think so not much of a need to boost power when you have up to 8.4 volts coming in and most only output around 7 volts and it's situational. most of the boxes are made for sub ohm vaping and in that instance voltage isn't going to be very high. and with vaping over 1 ohm most of the time you won't use voltage over 5 if that. not enough wire

 

[mimöschen]

The slice looks very neat.
I have to keep that on my list