"Smoking" versus "Vaping"

[John_]

There's a clear difference I know, besides all the horrible stuff in cigarettes while e-liquid is vg/pg, nicotine, and flavor. Smoke by definition is a product of combustion while vapor is only a liquid that has undergone a phase change.
My question is this, have you ever run into somebody that did not know the difference and assumed they were just as bad?
I understand either way you are inhaling something that is not normal air so there will be a different effect on your lungs but, whoever knows what in say a, Marlboro cigarette, versus food grade liquid and some flavoring. One is clearly less damaging than the other right?
If this should be in a different section I apologize but I have to post here for now.

 

[Nicadmus]

I know I have. There is so little information out there in the general sense that people are often quicker to associate vaping to drug use than to an alternative to cigarettes (in my short experience). Makes me appreciate to no end the effort and time so many have put in here on these boards and others, getting information out there. I'm even hesitant when vaping anywhere in public, when I know I should be excited about not smoking.

On the plus side though, it's an immediate conversation starter and offers an excellent opportunity to educate others of what exactly vaping is. Now I just need to seize them!

And welcome to the boards...

 

[clstearns]

There's an awesome thread over on the ECR subreddit (not sure if that's banned language here...) that lists out links to several studies about the health effects of vaping.

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...e_stickies_i_looked_through_the_first/c9sknb9

Hope this helps you out!

 

[Fishtec]

Biggest problem I have had is from people who don't actually smoke seem to associate vaping with either drug use or just level it on equal grounds with smoking

 

[zardoc]

At the beginning I had the same sensation, but now you can see a lot of people vaping (much of them because it's less expensive or more trendy, I think...)

 

[DC2]

Yes, there are a lot of people that assume it is just as bad as smoking.
And there are a lot of people that will continue to hold that opinion no matter how wrong they are.

There are also a lot of ignorant people in the world who wish to remain that way.
And even worse, there are also a lot of stupid people in the world who just can't help it.

And finally, there are many people who would like you to BELIEVE they are as bad as smoking, even though they know that's false.
And they have a lot of money, big mouths, and an agenda that doesn't really concern itself with your health.

 

[eratikmind]

In the same breath, I can also add that as a smoker, I was more than ignorant for having smoked for so long and possibly exposing everyone around me to that nasty habit.

Since vaping, I have continued making my apologies.


- Andy . . . Don't let the Ciggieman getcha . . . Vape'em.

 

[wv2win]

Go to the CASAA web site JOIN CASAA and you will find a wealth of information that you can use to educate the uninformed.

If we vapers do not educate ourselves and also educate the uninformed, then we will allow those who want vaping banned nationwide to define what vaping is and the result will be very bad for the vaping world.

 

[Patrick O'Brien]

I think vaping is still somewhat unknown to the general public, especially when it comes to the vast difference between it and smoking analogs. I try and answer questions people have, but sometimes I dont feel like educating people as it can be exhausting.

 

[wv2win]

I think vaping is still somewhat unknown to the general public, especially when it comes to the vast difference between it and smoking analogs. I try and answer questions people have, but sometimes I dont feel like educating people as it can be exhausting.

I created a little card I hand out with advice and have educated myself enough that I can explain why vaping is safe for those near by in about two - three sentences. Potentially saving a person's life is rarely easy.

 

[John_]

I created a little card I hand out with advice and have educated myself enough that I can explain why vaping is safe for those near by in about two - three sentences. Potentially saving a person's life is rarely easy.

Thats a good idea lol.



I think the problem is, as some of you have pointed out, the general person just does not know enough to form a valid opinion, whether that is because they are set in their ways or because they haven't done the reading. I hope in 10-20 years it will become much clearer to everybody and there will be less of a social stigma for vaping.

 

[zacthemac]

Someone recently started talking about vaping around me, not knowing that I vape, and was bashing it completely. He was like, "These people think they can just smoke there ecigs wherever they want, but I don't want that second hand ....... I don't care if they say they don't cause second hand smoke, there isn't enough research to know...blah blah blah "insert ignorant rambling here" blah blah"...SOOOO, I ended up getting into a long debate explaining how there is NO SECOND HAND SMOKE WHATSOEVER. He didn't believe it. I went on to explain that I build atty's and there is absolutely no combustion involved. I even offered to show him what I was talking about... This person refused to believe me and did not even want to see my method. People like this are hard-headed, ignorant, and refuse to admit they are wrong. The biggest problem is they give vaping a bad name to the people who don't know any better, and actually believe what they say is true. It is very frustrating that there are lots of people out there like this, but hopefully time will reveal the truth. We must try to educate others on how safe this whole concept truly is, and cross our fingers that they have at least half a working brain!

 

[Jeff Mccollum]

just like larry the cable guy says "you cant fix stupid"

 

[Berylanna]

Someone recently started talking about vaping around me, not knowing that I vape, and was bashing it completely. He was like, "These people think they can just smoke there ecigs wherever they want, but I don't want that second hand ....... I don't care if they say they don't cause second hand smoke, there isn't enough research to know...blah blah blah "insert ignorant rambling here" blah blah"...SOOOO, I ended up getting into a long debate explaining how there is NO SECOND HAND SMOKE WHATSOEVER. He didn't believe it. I went on to explain that I build atty's and there is absolutely no combustion involved. I even offered to show him what I was talking about... This person refused to believe me and did not even want to see my method. People like this are hard-headed, ignorant, and refuse to admit they are wrong. The biggest problem is they give vaping a bad name to the people who don't know any better, and actually believe what they say is true. It is very frustrating that there are lots of people out there like this, but hopefully time will reveal the truth. We must try to educate others on how safe this whole concept truly is, and cross our fingers that they have at least half a working brain!

I never say there is NO second-hand harm to vaping, I say "True, but it has been shown to be much less harmful than the steam from French Fries, which require a carcinogen warning. It's as dangerous as sitting next to a table where there are fajitas and coffee."

CONTEXT. That is what is needed. PICTURES in peoples' heads. And a demonstrated willingness to tell the truth helps our credibility.

 

[releasethehounds]

Education is definitely going to be the key on this whole smoking vs. vaping topic.
But just like how the public was educated on the effects of smoking, it will take time before it becomes widely accepted.

 

[DC2]

I never say there is NO second-hand harm to vaping, I say "True, but it has been shown to be much less harmful than the steam from French Fries, which require a carcinogen warning. It's as dangerous as sitting next to a table where there are fajitas and coffee."

CONTEXT. That is what is needed. PICTURES in peoples' heads. And a demonstrated willingness to tell the truth helps our credibility.

Although it could be added that the steam from french fries, fajitas, and coffee don't help to sanitize the air around them.

 

[wv2win]

Education is definitely going to be the key on this whole smoking vs. vaping topic.
But just like how the public was educated on the effects of smoking, it will take time before it becomes widely accepted.

It's up to us to educate ourselves, vape openly but respectfully and be prepared at every reasonable opportunity to educate the uninformed or more likely the mis-informed.

 

[ripitup361dd]

my thoughts exactly!

 

[OleBascom]

I created a little card I hand out with advice and have educated myself enough that I can explain why vaping is safe for those near by in about two - three sentences. Potentially saving a person's life is rarely easy.

That is a fantastic idea! Can you scan a picture of that card so I can use them?

 

[Berylanna]

Although it could be added that the steam from french fries, fajitas, and coffee don't help to sanitize the air around them.

I actually do not add that, because sanitization works by killing living cells. But maybe nobody else knows that. Since I've heard it is still used in some older OR's, I'm now wondering what they sprayed all over the airplane I was on before we took off from South Africa. They announced it was international law that they had to do that, leaving from certain places. From what I can find out it's permethrin and other things, which sounds worse than stage smoke to me.