So a fella walks into a vape shop......
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That was my point too, but you said it better. I'm new to mechs after spending a year with regulated mods. I'm not sure the learning curve regarding battery safety between myself and a new vaper is really too vastly different.
LOL.....the only win is keeping folks from blowing digits off (and from killing themselves in a muscle car)
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Exactly and keep in mind that vapers are not the only hobbyist using these batteries at a high amp draw. In fact a lot of the knowledge we now have has come to us from the flashlight hobby. They have been using these batteries safely much longer than we have. A few others that come to mind are radio control hobbyists and laser hobbyists. They all can use a ohms calculator and read the specs on a battery just as easy as we can.
Back there with comparing a new vaper and a mech to a kid with a muscle car.
I would hope the adult would have better judgement than the kid.. which is really what safety comes down to.
Another point made. Most cloud chasers are young adult males with a competitive spirit and a common disregard to their personal safety. We see this every day in the New Members forum.
They post that they want to know how many wraps for a 0.12 ohm coil. You advise them that is a dangerous build, that the batteries they are using aren't safe for that ohm. You provide them with links with important information that includes the proper way to do sub-ohms safely. They are too lazy pr impatient to click on a link and read for themselves, and come right back to say, "So 7 wraps will get me 0.12 ohms, right?"
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force him to drink it.
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At the risk of just sounding argumentative....I have a high end predator flashlight and though it is 2600 mah, I don't believe it is high drain. The boy has some RC's as well and I think that's the same thing. The only lazers I play with are attached to a .40 cal and I know they aren't high drain but they are high impact!
The problem isn't lack of information and safe & solid advice.
It is; ' this really cool dude at the vape shop said ' vs faceless / anonymous Interwebz fuddy dud party poopers that say my .06 build on my blue 60 amp 18650 is unsafe.
Can't be unsafe, cool vape shop dude uses a way hotter build and his 'mod' gets so hot he has to hold it with an oven mit while he blows phat clouds yo.
It is; ' this really cool dude at the vape shop said ' vs faceless / anonymous Interwebz fuddy dud party poopers that say my .06 build on my blue 60 amp 18650 is unsafe.
Can't be unsafe, cool vape shop dude uses a way hotter build and his 'mod' gets so hot he has to hold it with an oven mit while he blows phat clouds yo.
So how many of them flew in a less dangerous plane (starter plane) before training
Um-m-m-m-m, believe OP said it was the employee of the shop that built the coils and probably selected the inadequate battery to use in the mech mod. How many more new, unaware people will that employee set up in that dangerous way?
When I was brand new to vaping and enterred a shop, had NO idea the differences between mech and regulated; and could've easily been sold the same setup thinking certainly the employee KNOWS what they are doing.
When I was brand new to vaping and enterred a shop, had NO idea the differences between mech and regulated; and could've easily been sold the same setup thinking certainly the employee KNOWS what they are doing.
So how many of them flew in a less dangerous plane (starter plane) before training
Absolutely NONE. Take a look at the posters name you're replying to (Flt Simulation). And with a copilot next to them to prevent a tragedy.
Oh yeah...there are folks that'l talk your ear off about them. If you come across one, run.
If a fatty walks into McDonalds, should McDonalds refuse to sell them a Big Mac? Ultimately people should be responsible for their own actions. If a kid blows his face up because he wanted to blow clouds, the person who sold him the mod has no responsibility; not anymore than the cashier at McDonalds for selling the Big Mac to the fat person. Should a vape show owner warn the buyer? Yes, but the kid who wants to blow clouds doesn't care...
i don't know if anyone's touched on this yet, but as a teenager (in the technical sense of the word) who is mechanically inclined, i don't know if starting someone on a dripper is a bad move. of course, you have to teach this "fella" about battery safety, building coils, etc. i would personally recommend a regulated device to start as opposed to a mech, but if someone really wants to start at the top, buying the best quality products, who cares?
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