So a lurker not so new, with some criticisms

[Mr.Mann]

A noob doesn't jump in and tell everyone what they are doing wrong. Not if they are a half-way smart noob.

I am not sure how much the OP is a "noob" (he may be? dunno), but I do think with most things in life that are worth figuring out, all of this stuff that is complicated can be figured out with research, and without, seemingly, blaming those in-the-know for making matters more difficult. I get frustrated too, and I've been vaping since 2010 (and many feel the same that have been vaping longer). I think one of the biggest problems is that people watch all these youtube videos, read all these reviews and want *that* thing without taking into consideration that many of these people used to review cartos and cig-a-likes (an they had to figure out the Tayrn spin like the rest of us! LOL). My point is that they worked their way up the information mountain just like anyone else that wants to reach that peak. For others that are happy with being on their plateau, they have no reason to balk at those doing other things because they are content doing what they do. But if anyone is stuck in the valley, don't get mad at others that are steadily climbing.

 

[30+Years]

Is it just me or isn't there a learning curve for just about everything new that one may venture into?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Is it just me or isn't there a learning curve for just about everything new that one may venture into?

Nope. It's not just you -- you can even ask my one-year-old daughter who is trying to learn how to walk, yet people run, dance and jump all the time in her presence with no regard to her being incapable of doing so. They're so mean! LOL. But hey, she'll learn if she wants to do the same.

 

[30+Years]

I think that some people just wake up in the mornings and think "what can I ..... about today"?

 

[JB Goode]

I like GrimmGreen.

Thumbs up

Sorry, wrong smiley

 

[CassiusCloud]

I watch Rip Trippers when i get home from work.
Him and grim green crack me up..
pbusardo is pretty slick though with that game changer video he had.
i was hooked like a pike on a stick bait

 

[JB Goode]

Okay, here is just one woman's viewpoint on some of what you're complaining about. I am a 72 year old grandmother to 18 wonderful grandkids, married for 49 years to the same man. I would say I live a pretty conventional life, with a few detours in my younger days.

I also smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day for over 45 years, and really wanted to quit. I knew absolutely nothing about e cigarettes, other than I had seen some Blu commercials on TV which intrigued me.

I am not at all technologically inclined, hate math, and wouldn't know what an "ohm" was if it smacked me in the face.

That said, I have had no trouble whatsoever with the terminology and linguistics that I found on this wonderful forum. From the day I joined here a little over 3 months ago, I have been treated with the greatest kindness and patience. I've asked dumb questions, and then more dumb questions, but I have never been made to feel "dumb" here. Someone always was patient enough to try to understand what I was trying to say, since I certainly didn't know the terminology to ask.

I totally disagree with your notion that the general content of the ECF forum makes people hesitant to pursue vaping. On the contrary, there is something for everyone here. If you want to blow big clouds, someone will help you. If you want to just quietly and discretely vape, someone will help you with that. I don't want to rebuild anything, or wind any coils, but if I did, this would sure be the place to find out how to do it.

What I wanted was to find an alternative to killing myself with cigarettes, and I certainly found that here.

Oh!! I so, so, so agree with you. This place is cool, info is great, answers to my uninformed questions are great. Yes, there are quite a few vaporanics here but so what? I've been here for a while and I've only been able to cover 20% of this place.

On a more serious note----I'm a super mod on another type of board and it deals only with animals (parrots) and there's an area on that board that I have to constantly focus on---the effort and ability of people to stop smoking around all types of parrots. Cigs are a quick irreversible problem for parrots. So many die because of the surrounding smoke. Owners just don't know about it. If there are any other parrot owners on this board, they'll know exactly hat I'm referring to. I've encouraged people to come here and start at the new members section. It's worked for many, for others, not so much. I put my effort in and I'm glad I did the right thing and buggainok. Im a soon to be a grandfather and also did some wild and crazy things way back when. . Well, enough of my 2 cents.
Dave

 

[Zealous]

You do realize I am the general public. This is not my hobby. I don't want to be part of the community. I am a guy that always looks for the better alternative, and in my case I see e-cigs as the better alternative. I am just letting you know, what some Joe, some Joe that could give an F about your forum 'your fight' or anything else may think of the entire 'system.' that is now in place, may think or gleen from his google "e-cig".

Sometimes truisms may be alluding some people because they are so immersed in something they lose sight of what a smoker, that desperately is looking to quit needs to know.

Hm....so you are here to find out more about vaping as an alternative to smoking but you didn't ask any questions & have only offered insults. I'm sorry but I fail to see how myself or anyone here can help you at this point. Do you have a question?

 

[drksideken]

I know you can buy pre-wound coils from ebay and other places. All you have to do is screw them in and wick them. Thats the closest I've seen to what you want though. The day they come out with a tank that will make everyone happy is going to be a happy day indeed.

 

[Zealous]

As new to vape, the learning curve is steep and the terminology is intimidating. I can read and read, but if I don't know all the terminology well, the full benefit of reading is not there. I can see it being off putting for noobs.

I don't mind paying for quality gear with analog savings. I would even pay for custom mods, like sneakerpimps mini ego-t, with halfling set up. It is just what I was looking for, and thanks for sharing it sneakerpimp, but it took me a long time to put it all together myself.

I might get into vaping deeper, but the ease of use vs intimidation gap, would ideally not be so large. When I came, I just wanted to quit smoking and was looking for the straightest and easiest path to that goal.

And I think think this is a problem with many who start off in these forums. I understand that it's difficult to wrap your head around everything being discussed here. But there is no straight & easy path to the goal. Everyone is different. And everyone here is discovering things for themselves & sharing what they've learned to help others. Vaping is relatively new so things are still being learned every day even by vets as new equipment, techniques, technology, etc., emerge. I think we, as a community, try our best to help new members find what they're looking for. It's just not that easy as there is no cookie cutter set up that's perfect for everyone.

 

[Zealous]

I know you can buy pre-wound coils from ebay and other places. All you have to do is screw them in and wick them. Thats the closest I've seen to what you want though. The day they come out with a tank that will make everyone happy is going to be a happy day indeed.

Yes you can buy coils like what you described on ebay. And the fact that you CAN buy such coils is just one reason a forum like this is so valuable. The idea of paying $4.95 for just a coil with no wicking attached to it is insane when you can buy 100ft of kanthal for $4.95 & have enough wire to wrap that same coil approximately 600 times.

 

[Burnie]

Late to the Party as Always, But I brought

Vape On
Burnie

 

[Worzel]

All this talk about FDA regulations, we better learn the nicknames for the parts, because that may be how they are offered for sale. Like h--d shops.


Sent from my bird in a moist little package

 

[schleppcar]

Hee hee hee ... ... I still don't really understand what 'sub-ohm vaping' is ... no freakin' clue what I would do with a "rebuildable" ... until recently had no earthly idea how adjusting 'watts' vs 'voltage' would make a difference, what advantages and disadvantages a mechanical device has over an electronic one - or what a "kick" would do ... what an APV is ... none of it.

But I DID go into a brick and mortar shop when I decided to quit smoking cigarettes and with a lot of patience and help - was guided into my first ecig. It worked like a champ - and a lot of research and lurking on this forum began teaching me small bits and pieces. I honestly still don't know everything that I don't know. But so far no one has (publicly) told me a question I asked was stupid. No one has given me a hard time for anything - even dumb - that I may have posted because we're all humans in the end who want to live a little longer and stop smoking the world up. I stopped lurking and joined - because I needed to ask those questions. The biggest thing I've learned is that I don't need to know everything anymore than I need to understand how an internal combustion engine and viscous coupling works in order to drive a car or how plumbing works to flush the toilet. My little spinner and tank worked well enough for me to kick the habit but seemed a little weak in vapor and battery life. So I started looking for 'greater battery life and stronger vapor" which matched up to 'mods and bigger better tanks" and sure enough the purchase of these provided the "greater battery life and stronger vapor" ... trust me - I understand your frustration with what you may perceive as jargon - and even feel a little excluded because you're new - but these folks are good folks and more than tolerant - just ask! =)

 

[Fisheeboy]

Late to the Party as Always, But I brought

Vape On
Burnie

You may have been late to he party but there is still just enough going on here that the is still a very nice treat for the show.
We have plenty of enthusiastic newbs that are willing to share their love of vaping and ECF and will keep this entertaining.

 

[Amraann]

I think that OP has left the building

I am somewhat confused as to why someone would join the community only to state that they do not want to be a member of said community?

 

[Fisheeboy]

Maybe he left our community to go join a community of other people who hate communities and joining communities.

 

[FireDragon1138]

I for one find the overuse of the term "analog" goofy (especially because many e-cigs aren't remotely "digital"). But every community is going to have its jargon.

If you want a no-fuss setup you should just go to LiteCigUSA and buy a KR808 started kit and some juice. It's very simple to use and good quality stuff. You'll be changing batteries more often but there is very little learning curve and vape quality is good.

 

[Scottums]

He has at least one point, my girlfriend makes fun of me every time I watch a Riptrippers video.

 

[realsis]

I love this community! I'm new I know and only have 20 days smoke free but you all have made me so comfortable! The op is not correct about this community turning off new comers with its jargon ect. I stumbled across this community when I first quit smoking 20 days ago. I picked up the jargon pretty fast and what I didn't understand I'd ask or research it. So I disagree that the lingo is a turn off. Op also talks about image, I think the op himself might be stero typing. From what I've seen we range from 18 to 70 all loving to vape. So I'm not sure what particular "image" op has? Look at me for example, I'm a middle class 40 "something" woman" with a grown daughter and half grown son. So what negative image is he even talking about.? Seems the op came into the community with some pretty considered idea of what we are like..instead of taking the time to get to know folks he made some preconceived judgements.