So, what are the advantages of mechanical mods exactly?

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    Would you believe that the very first "mod" that was commercially available was a mechanical mod. (Screwdriver) A lot of the mechanical craze we see these days is driven by the extravagant machine work being done. Some of them are really a work of art. Also from the vendor point of view, nothing can be made cheaper with a better profit margin than a mechanical. So you will see the full spectrum with mechanicals, from the Smok TeleScope to super fancy hybrids.

    The nice thing about a mechanical mod is that just about any type of delivery system that you can imagine can be made to work well on them.
    Super low resistance coils being only one option, which I will never suggest to anyone, it simply isn't necessary. In fact if you watch the videos, you will notice that they almost always cough up a lung at the end of a super cloud hit. This simply is not what mechanical mods are all about. They can be a great vape without any of the nonsense.

    Safety is always an issue with a mechanical mod, because it's up to you, the PV does not do it for you. Poorly maintained batteries, or the wrong batteries can (and have) lead to a disaster. Same thing with poorly maintained or improperly built heads. So it's imperative that the user knows what they are doing, and takes the necessary precautions. (you only need to do it wrong once)
     

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    Super low resistance coils being only one option, which I will never suggest to anyone, it simply isn't necessary. In fact if you watch the videos, you will notice that they almost always cough up a lung at the end of a super cloud hit. This simply is not what mechanical mods are all about. They can be a great vape without any of the nonsense.

    Safety is always an issue with a mechanical mod, because it's up to you, the PV does not do it for you. Poorly maintained batteries, or the wrong batteries can (and have) lead to a disaster. Same thing with poorly maintained or improperly built heads. So it's imperative that the user knows what they are doing, and takes the necessary precautions. (you only need to do it wrong once)

    Well said tj99959, totally agree. :)
     

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    Don't be afraid of sub ohm like it's literally a reactor. I love some of those posts from that crowd. Like it WILL take your hand off.

    Um, short stop, 2 cent fuse, probably some others in production.

    Advantages? The durability, especially compared to regulated devices is unmatched. You literally need tools and need to TRY to break one, well, one worth buying anyway. And, the knowledge of battery types contained on here alone will take you down the right path.

    The Legacy by Puresmoker needs no modding, and is under 100$. And...made in the US.
     
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    Don't be afraid of sub ohm like it's literally a reactor. I love some of those posts from that crowd. Like it WILL take your hand off.

    Um, short stop, 2 cent fuse, probably some others in production.
    Maybe not take your hand off, but could cause a serious burn or cause extensive fire damage to property. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html#post3265928

    Not to hijack the OP's original topic, but battery safety does become relevant when discussing a mechanical mod. The batteries that we use in our mods were not specifically designed for the uses that we assign them to. Some situations (ie sub ohm or ULR coils) can push batteries to their limit, and if the battery is not a high quality battery and can not handle the amps asked of it, it can stress to the point of hard-shorting and go into thermal runaway venting gases hot enough to burn or cause a fire.

    Any battery, protected or safer chemistry, has the potential to be dangerous if not used properly or used in a manner it was not designed for. The following are a couple of information resources concerning mods and battery safety:

    Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-news/271739-emss-ecf-metal-tubemods-safety-specification.html


    Bottom line is, regulated mods (variable voltage/wattage) have built-in protections against atomizer or battery dysfunctions. They will shut themselves down and refuse to fire in these situations to protect itself and the user from harm.

    Unregulated mods (mechanical) have no such protections. The only "safety" features they have are drilled ventilation holes and a hot spring, both which don't become activated until a battery already decides to become a firecracker. In fact, many of the users of ULR coils use mechanical mods because they (mechanical mods) do not have the aforementioned "restrictions" of safety features that regulated mods have.

    Having said all of that, I'll agree that many of the mechanical mods are beautifully made pieces of art. They will also provide you with a very decent vape if you choose the correct juice delivery device at the proper resistance for a mechanical. They can be used reasonably safely if high quality batteries are used, and even more safely with the use of a Vape Safe mod fuse. Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2
     
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    Like Dr pepper, what's the worse that can happen?!

    Lithium Ion Battery Explosion - YouTube

    What the vid doesn't show is that what took 30 minutes while charging can happen in a millisecond when discharging.

    What scares me the most is "bargain hunting" when buying batteries. Make sure you are getting the type of battery you ordered, there are way to many counterfeits out there.
     

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    Lithium Ion Battery Explosion - YouTube

    What the vid doesn't show is that what took 30 minutes while charging can happen in a millisecond when discharging.

    What scares me the most is "bargain hunting" when buying batteries. Make sure you are getting the type of battery you ordered, there are way to many counterfeits out there.

    Thanks for that video tj
    There is no doubt that could burn a house down.
     

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    Maybe not take your hand off, but could cause a serious burn or cause extensive fire damage to property. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/190146-pictures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html#post3265928

    Not to hijack the OP's original topic, but battery safety does become relevant when discussing a mechanical mod. The batteries that we use in our mods were not specifically designed for the uses that we assign them to. Some situations (ie sub ohm or ULR coils) can push batteries to their limit, and if the battery is not a high quality battery and can not handle the amps asked of it, it can stress to the point of hard-shorting and go into thermal runaway venting gases hot enough to burn or cause a fire.

    Any battery, protected or safer chemistry, has the potential to be dangerous if not used properly or used in a manner it was not designed for. The following are a couple of information resources concerning mods and battery safety:

    Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-news/271739-emss-ecf-metal-tubemods-safety-specification.html


    Bottom line is, regulated mods (variable voltage/wattage) have built-in protections against atomizer or battery dysfunctions. They will shut themselves down and refuse to fire in these situations to protect itself and the user from harm.

    Unregulated mods (mechanical) have no such protections. The only "safety" features they have are drilled ventilation holes and a hot spring, both which don't become activated until a battery already decides to become a firecracker. In fact, many of the users of ULR coils use mechanical mods because they (mechanical mods) do not have the aforementioned "restrictions" of safety features that regulated mods have.

    Having said all of that, I'll agree that many of the mechanical mods are beautifully made pieces of art. They will also provide you with a very decent vape if you choose the correct juice delivery device at the proper resistance for a mechanical. They can be used reasonably safely if high quality batteries are used, and even more safely with the use of a Vape Safe mod fuse. Batteries : Vape Safe Mod Fuse 2
    Yeah, like the one that went off on you at work!! Good thing you weren't in that suit!
     

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    Yeah, like the one that went off on you at work!! Good thing you weren't in that suit!
    Absolutely! :shock:

    Actually, it wasn't a suit. I had not had my very first mods for long, and had gotten into the habit of storing my two mods in the pocket of my cargo shorts, which were hanging in my locker at work. I would go to my locker in the locker room on breaks for a few vapes. One time I returned to my locker for one such break, and when I reached into the pocket, the BB was TOO HOT TO HANDLE. I nearly burnt my fingers.

    I got a wet washcloth, and pulled my mod out of the pocket. At that point I could detect the smell of burning plastic and carefully removed the battery. Upon inspection I saw that the ends of the battery had blown apart, and the battery casing had completely melted.

    BB.jpgTrustfire2.jpg

    Above is the mod that this incident happened in. Notice the protruding horn-style fire button which had become compressed in my pants pocket. This caused the battery to fire continuously until it hard-shorted and go into thermal runaway. The next pic is of that battery next to a normal one. The battery was a Trustfire "protected" 14500 battery which had been recommended and purchased from AltSmoke.

    The BB did what it was designed to do. The hot spring collapsed and the fire button/power switch allowed the hot gasses to release (which burned my pocket). The BB has no vent holes. These "safety features" on the BB worked as designed, but still did not prevent the battery from going into thermal runaway. The so-called protected circuit on the Trustfire also did not prevent the battery from venting.

    Nearly all battery incidents can be blamed on user error. My error was to place an active battery device in a tightly enclosed space to allow the fire button to be continuously fired. What should have been done was to deactivate the electrical circuit by removing the battery or the juice delivery device from my APV.

    Since this incident, I've gained a new respect and understanding of the power these little batteries hold, and the potential danger that they can cause if common sense and safe battery practices are not used. It is also why I am such a strong proponent of safe battery & mod use here on the forums.

    I will not use any batteries with the name "-fire" in them, stopped using so-called "protected" batteries, and use only high quality, genuine AW brand IMR batteries in both my regulated and unregulated APVs.
     
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